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Saddle ideas - Looking for one that puts rider close to back for big mover short back

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  • Saddle ideas - Looking for one that puts rider close to back for big mover short back

    Ive been searching for a saddle for my new horse.

    So far he loves the Schleese Wave. He is very restricted moving in everything else. I am not sure what it is about the wave.... it could be the ultra wide channel, the cut back shoulders or the short footprint, or all of the above.

    I'd like something elastic with soft grippy leather that helps me feel like I can sit really close to his back, like bareback without the wither torture!. I am not wild about the wave because it raises me up off his back and it seems stiff hard and heavy. I usually like a wider twist, but this wave feels a bit too wide.

    He is 17-2 medium tall wither, medium wide wither, short fairly back, without a lot of slope laterally. Large shoulders with somewhat high neck set and he is a very bouncy mover. I am tall with long thighs and prefer a widish seat and pommel. .

    I am curious about the Sommer saddles. Also Equipe Verhan Hennig Amerigo etc. Any insights or suggestions?

  • #2
    My short backed horse (lusitano) goes very well in a Custom Constanz saddle, which is a shorter paneled saddle. I like the saddle comfort wise, but I'm not typically fussy.


    • #3
      If you want to sit a little further forward and closer to the wither/back, I would start with Equipe.

      i like that feeling and I am also very happy with the Custom Advantage (not R). It may not suit a horse with a lot of wither, though.
      Originally posted by PeanutButterPony
      you can shackle your pony to a lawn chair at the long as its in a conservative color.


      • #4
        Harry Dabbs ticks all your boxes, so might also be worth a look. Frank Baines has some models that my work, too, though the short panel would b e a special order.


        • #5
          Custom Wolfgang Solo is made for the baroque horses - shoulder relief (cut back), short back, wide bodied. I have one - looked for YEARS for a saddle that fit both me and my horse. Love the fit, and they were at Nationals this past weekend and I saw they have suede seats now which are much more "sticky" for the rider.


          • #6
            You might take a look at the Stubben Genesis Special. It's designed to be a "close contact" dressage saddle and sit you as close to the horse's back as possible. The panels are "upswept" in the back to sit comfortably on shorter backed horses. I'm not sure what options the seat comes in, but it might be worth a look.
            "The horse is bigger than you are, and it should carry you. The quieter you sit, the easier this will be for the horse." William Steinkraus


            • #7
              Custom Constanze, hands down.
              Close to the horse back, nice flat spot to sit on, narrow twist, and in the case of my saddle, small enough blocks so that I am not restricted but big enough so that i can sit my horse exuberant moments. Some people find it not cushy enough ( less cushioning than the Advantage for example). My mare loves the polyflex tree. She has big withers, short back and longish loin. It works perfectly for both of us.


              • #8
                Have you looked at the County Epiphany? Its ultra close feel, and since the saddles are custom, I'm sure you can discuss making the channel wider if its not already wide enough for you. Its getting great reviews for how close you feel to the horse and how well riders are able to sit the trot on ANY horse. I love County for the narrow twist. My TB mare is built like a warmblood and goes well in it.
                It was released right after I bought my other County saddle or I would have bought one myself. If we manage to get thru 2nd level, I may consider selling my current model for the Epiphany.
                Crayola Posse~Aquamarine
                Love vs Money...for the love of my horse, I have no money!


                • #9
                  I LOVE my County Epiphany. Can't recommend it highly enough.

                  I would also possibly look into Antares. Those feel super close contact.


                  • #10
                    I second the Equipe.. I have never sat in a saddle that allowed me to feel my horses back like it dose and you feel so close and seated into the back its just amazing. I have the Carbon Fiber tree which I am convinced is a huge contributor to the amazing feel.
                    One day you'll wake up and there wont be any more time to do what you've always wanted to do. Do it NOW!


                    • #11
                      I had a similar experience with Schleese models holding me "perched" on top of my big mover (similar build too). FWIW, I actually found my trainer's Custom to be too close contact when I first started riding this horse! It took a while for me to be ready for that much feel with so much movement. We ultimately found the right fit in a Custom Icon Flight that gives me the "melted into his back" feeling.
                      Good luck!


                      • #12
                        ANother vote for the Custom WOlfgang Solo II. Also consider the Lemke. Sheryl Lemke has them made in England. She is located in Utah (nevada? Google it).


                        • #13
                          I have a very short coupled, short backed, mutton withered, downhill, Cleveland bay cross with a huge shoulder, and I just purchased a Custom Advantage R with pony panels and the billets off the point to allow more shoulder movement.

                          I couldn't be happier with my purchase. It fits him unbelievably well and the narrower twist allows me to really sit into the saddle and get my legs around him. The Custom Advantage R is fully adjustable as well by a qualified fitter.

                          I was riding him in a Schleese HK (same seat/tree as the Wave) and the issue that I had was that the saddle seemed to sit on top of his back instead of wrapping around him. It was essentially like trying to balance a saddle on a beach ball. My Custom sits very close to his back and just wraps around his wide body.


                          • #14
                            I found a Dresch exactly like you are describing that my young horse with a super short back just loves, and its the first saddle ever that I have forgotten about while riding. Custom, Schleese, Stubben, nothing else came close except surprisingly an Albion HR, I just couldn't find one wide enough.