• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse
1 of 2 < >

Update to Forum Rules: Criminal Allegations

In our continuing effort to provide an avenue for individuals to voice their opinions and experiences, we have recently reviewed and updated our forum policies. Generally, we have allowed users to share their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, trainers, etc. within the industry, and that is not changing.

When it came to overt criminal allegations, however, those discussions have in the past needed to stem from a report by a reputable news source or action by law enforcement or the legal system.

We are now expanding our policies to allow posters to share their own first-hand experiences involving overt criminal allegations, such as animal abuse or neglect, theft, etc., but only if they publicly provide their full first and last name along with the post. We still will not allow anonymous postings alleging criminal activity.

So, a user may now make a specific claim against a named individual or company, but it must be a FIRST-HAND account, and they have to IDENTIFY THEMSELVES. Users have always been legally responsible for their posts, and nothing has changed there, but we want to loosen the reins a bit and further allow the free flow of discussion and information relevant to the horse community.

We are not providing a free-for-all of anonymous rumor-mongering. As enduring advocates for the welfare of the horse, we want to provide a forum for those willing to sign their name and shine a light on issues of concern to them in the industry.

The full revised rules are posted at the top of each forum for reference.
2 of 2 < >

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums’ policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Weird Shelley Browning blogs?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Weird Shelley Browning blogs?

    Does everyone remember Shelley Browning who did the Worst Test Ever at Del Mar back in January, and the riding was so atrociously bad it prompted a hue and cry across the internet?

    It seems there are now several weird fawning blogs written about (yeah, probably by) her:

    https://shelleybrowningdressage.wordpress.com/

    "Shelley was a successful, competitive equestrian all of her life, with particular interest in dressage riding. She began showing hunters/jumpers, and then as a teenager pursued 3 day eventing and ultimately started dressage after college. She was a very successful junior rider and presently rides and competes as an amateur."
    ("Presently" means "soon", person-who-is-hired-to-write-PR-copy-on-the-internet.)

    https://medium.com/@adriancharles656

    "Shelley has been married to entertainment lawyer Ken Browning for over 35 years, and they have five children. Together they are active in endowing scholarships at various colleges and universities for underprivileged students, including the University of Pennsylvania, Yale University, and Bowdoin College. Shelley continues her equestrian pursuits and just purchased a Grand Prix Dressage horse from Holland for the forthcoming show season."

    (complete with link to another website about her)
    And we have another GP horse from Holland to look forward to folks!

    See also:
    "Shelley Browning presents dressage as an art of training a horse in a way that delivers relaxation, connection, straightness, and collection."

    (complete with another link to a page about her)
    Um,...
    ​​​​​​​

    Every week there's some new little snippet.

    So..... is this some weird attempt at search engine optimization or what is this?
    The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
    Jinxyhttp://tiny.cc/PIC798&http://tiny.cc/jinx364
    Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
    The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY

  • #2
    I feel like this just brings awkward and weird to a whole new level. It almost seems as if someone else has written this as a joke, however, they do know a bunch of personal details about her. Most of these details, though, remind me of things a good development officer would learn about potential donors or alums who are interested in donating to a college or university. They are also details a lot of people probably already found online following the Del Mar "incident." Regardless of who's writing it, it IS really strange!
    In a society that profits from your self-doubt, liking yourself is a rebellious act.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
      Does everyone remember Shelley Browning who did the Worst Test Ever at Del Mar back in January, and the riding was so atrociously bad it prompted a hue and cry across the internet?

      It seems there are now several weird fawning blogs written about (yeah, probably by) her:

      https://shelleybrowningdressage.wordpress.com/



      ("Presently" means "soon", person-who-is-hired-to-write-PR-copy-on-the-internet.)

      https://medium.com/@adriancharles656



      And we have another GP horse from Holland to look forward to folks!

      See also:


      Um,...


      Every week there's some new little snippet.

      So..... is this some weird attempt at search engine optimization or what is this?
      Sad. sad sad!!
      Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

      Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

      Comment


      • #4
        Interesting. Maybe she hired a PR rep?

        Comment


        • #5
          She's the west coast NP? This is just crazy. There is nothing to publicize with her riding. I have seen it. I know these things.
          "I am but a passenger on this ship"
          -- Stendal (epitaph)

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
            So..... is this some weird attempt at search engine optimization or what is this?
            These mostly regurgitate snippets of a professional profile and say very little about her dressage life (e.g. "Shelley Browning feeds her horses special food, fits them with special shoes, turn out privileges, roomy box stalls, covered areas..." or "Shelley Browning has been riding her entire life, and has rode and competed in hunter/jumpers, three-day eventing, and dressage events and competitions for over 50 years, and has nothing but respect and admiration for the honor and professionalism of the sport."). Are humans who are interested in someone's dressage pursuits really dying to know if their horses have covered areas during their turnout privileges, or a list of disciplines they've "rode [sic] and competed in"? Methinks these laundry lists might have more to do with what machines look for when they try to identify sites about equestrianism and, perhaps more tellingly, equine welfare/abuse...

            It also seems to repeatedly post the same 3-4 photos and to link back and forth between various pointless posts with her name as the link text -- there's a Twitter bot in on the action as well, and probably other automatons out there on the internet ensuring the density and recency of links. Most humans will be disappointed if they click a link and arrive at the same text posted on a different date by a different bot, but cold hard algorithms will eat it right up.

            No doubt you hit the nail on the head -- that it's an attempt to use SEO to knock out the Shelley Browning Demonstrates Blatant Abuse blog post that is the current #1 Google hit for "Shelley Browning dressage" and #2 hit for "Shelley Browning", and other similarly unflattering content that's out there. And unless Shelley Browning is much better at SEO than she is at riding dressage or treating her horse humanely in public, then I'd guess that it's the work of a paid SEO specialist.

            By the looks of it, it's working -- the zombie blogs are making their way into the top 10 results, and as time passes and traffic/linking to Del Mar reaction posts dwindles they'll percolate to the top. Wouldn't it be nice to just throw money at your problems and make them disappear? Oh wait, on second thought it's probably better just to not treat horses badly and not lose your temper while there are cameras pointed at you.
            Evolutionary science by day; keeping a certain red mare from winning a Darwin award the rest of the time!

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post
              Does everyone remember Shelley Browning who did the Worst Test Ever at Del Mar back in January, and the riding was so atrociously bad it prompted a hue and cry across the internet?

              It seems there are now several weird fawning blogs written about (yeah, probably by) her:

              https://shelleybrowningdressage.wordpress.com/



              ("Presently" means "soon", person-who-is-hired-to-write-PR-copy-on-the-internet.)

              https://medium.com/@adriancharles656



              And we have another GP horse from Holland to look forward to folks!

              See also:


              Um,...


              Every week there's some new little snippet.

              So..... is this some weird attempt at search engine optimization or what is this?
              I would say definitely an attempt at SEO to combat the stuff that shows up if you Google her name, particularly with the word dressage as well.

              I wonder happened to the last lovely GP horse she imported from
              ​​​​​​​Holland? Hope he landed in a softer place.

              Comment


              • #8
                Notice that the Sept. 18 blog states that "Shelley was (italics mine) a successful, competitive equestrian all of her life, with particular interest in dressage riding."

                Comment


                • #9
                  If I rightly recall, she was a film agent or something like that? A field well versed in how you do damage control. I expect that none of this is aimed at the equestrian audience. It is more aimed at replacing an embarrassing set of Google results for a non horse audience ( like her clientele). The posts will need to have enough key words to compete with the others. Probably before her professional pages didn't even mention horses, is my guess. Now they have to mention horses in bland terms to beat out the equestrian commentary in the search algorithm.

                  And honestly who can blame her? I wouldn't be very happy if a miscue in my hobby life ended up swamping my professional profile online, especially if I was in a job that required a strong online presence.

                  I don't think we are the target audience at all.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    It's so creepy that it's the same repetitive photos and commentary. It reminds me of someone else..

                    Seriously though, she's probably doing this to save her career. The 'bad pr' from her ride in Del Mar could have easily gotten back to her professional life.
                    "I am but a passenger on this ship"
                    -- Stendal (epitaph)

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                      I don't think we are the target audience at all.
                      Pretty sure the target audience is comprised solely of Google's PageRank algorithm and other similar non-human entities.

                      Humans are just supposed to gloss over and wander past these pages (and any other dressage-related mentions) on the way to professional pages and PR interviews.

                      The only purpose of all this is to scrub words and phrases like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" and "poor riding" and "cruelty" from the first page or two of Google hits for the search term "Shelley Browning". I'm sure there are a lot of people in Hollywood who recoil from such mentions -- if not because they care about animals then because they don't want to tarnish their own images by any association with such things.
                      Evolutionary science by day; keeping a certain red mare from winning a Darwin award the rest of the time!

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                        Pretty sure the target audience is comprised solely of Google's PageRank algorithm and other similar non-human entities.

                        Humans are just supposed to gloss over and wander past these pages (and any other dressage-related mentions) on the way to professional pages and PR interviews.

                        The only purpose of all this is to scrub words and phrases like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" and "poor riding" and "cruelty" from the first page or two of Google hits for the search term "Shelley Browning". I'm sure there are a lot of people in Hollywood who recoil from such mentions -- if not because they care about animals then because they don't want to tarnish their own images by any association with such things.
                        Exactly.

                        And how would you explain to a nonrider that " abuse" in this case doesn't mean starving or beating with a crow bar, but just very bad riding above your level?

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                          And how would you explain to a nonrider that " abuse" in this case doesn't mean starving or beating with a crow bar, but just very bad riding above your level?
                          I suspect there are some animal lovers in Hollywood who would agree with the labels that various unflattering blog posts applied to the Del Mar tests.

                          I also know that internet sensationalists do have a habit of crying wolf about animal abuse (I seem to recall anti-NYC carriage horse propaganda that pointed out chestnuts as "tumors" and horses casually cocking a foot at rest as "lame"), so I can see your point on a theoretical level. But I find it hard to be sympathetic toward anyone whose documented deliberate actions show callousness toward an animal, to put it politely. So I see more humor than injustice in this particular rider either having to explain to professional contacts that an ambition to ride above her level caused the internet to label her whip/spur/rein use abusive, or having to put some dough (out of a bankroll ample enough to buy a saint of a schoolmaster like Vorst D) into reputation repair.
                          Evolutionary science by day; keeping a certain red mare from winning a Darwin award the rest of the time!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Holy crap. I had forgotten just how heinous it was. So sad for that Saint of a horse.
                            Always be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Then always be Batman.

                            The Grove at Five Points

                            Comment


                            • #15


                              What did happen to that horse?

                              Just....wow

                              Comment

                              • Original Poster

                                #16
                                Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                                No doubt you hit the nail on the head -- that it's an attempt to use SEO to knock out the Shelley Browning Demonstrates Blatant Abuse blog post that is the current #1 Google hit for "Shelley Browning dressage" and #2 hit for "Shelley Browning", and other similarly unflattering content that's out there. And unless Shelley Browning is much better at SEO than she is at riding dressage or treating her horse humanely in public, then I'd guess that it's the work of a paid SEO specialist.

                                By the looks of it, it's working -- the zombie blogs are making their way into the top 10 results, and as time passes and traffic/linking to Del Mar reaction posts dwindles they'll percolate to the top. Wouldn't it be nice to just throw money at your problems and make them disappear? Oh wait, on second thought it's probably better just to not treat horses badly and not lose your temper while there are cameras pointed at you.
                                Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post
                                The only purpose of all this is to scrub words and phrases like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" and "poor riding" and "cruelty" from the first page or two of Google hits for the search term "Shelley Browning".
                                Interesting.

                                That was so helpful of you to provide a link to Shelley Browning's abusive dressage riding so everyone can evaluate for themselves if they think it is abusive or cruel, and to keep using the words "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" in close proximity to Shelley Browning's full name.




                                The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
                                Jinxyhttp://tiny.cc/PIC798&http://tiny.cc/jinx364
                                Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
                                The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post

                                  No doubt you hit the nail on the head -- that it's an attempt to use SEO to knock out the Shelley Browning Demonstrates Blatant Abuse blog post that is the current #1 Google hit for "Shelley Browning dressage" and #2 hit for "Shelley Browning", and other similarly unflattering content that's out there. And unless Shelley Browning is much better at SEO than she is at riding dressage or treating her horse humanely in public, then I'd guess that it's the work of a paid SEO specialist.

                                  By the looks of it, it's working -- the zombie blogs are making their way into the top 10 results, and as time passes and traffic/linking to Del Mar reaction posts dwindles they'll percolate to the top. Wouldn't it be nice to just throw money at your problems and make them disappear? Oh wait, on second thought it's probably better just to not treat horses badly and not lose your temper while there are cameras pointed at you.
                                  Originally posted by x-halt-salute View Post
                                  The only purpose of all this is to scrub words and phrases like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" and "poor riding" and "cruelty" from the first page or two of Google hits for the search term "Shelley Browning".
                                  Interesting.

                                  That was so helpful of you to create a link to Shelley Browning's abusive dressage riding so everyone can evaluate for themselves if they think Shelley Browning was abusive to animals or cruel to the horse, and to keep using search terms like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" in close proximity to Shelley Browning's full name.

                                  The Noodlehttp://tiny.cc/NGKmT&http://tiny.cc/gioSA
                                  Jinxyhttp://tiny.cc/PIC798&http://tiny.cc/jinx364
                                  Boy Wonderhttp://tiny.cc/G9290
                                  The Hana is nuts! NUTS!!http://tinyurl.com/SOCRAZY

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    While I agree her riding was shocking in a high level dressage context and she was clearly way over her level that day, having her name permanently linked to the kinds of excoriation you'd apply to call the SPCA now! levels of physical abuse is hyperbole and not particularly helpful. I would have thought the internet interest in her would have faded out by now.

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by meupatdoes View Post



                                      Interesting.

                                      That was so helpful of you to create a link to Shelley Browning's abusive dressage riding so everyone can evaluate for themselves if they think Shelley Browning was abusive to animals or cruel to the horse, and to keep using search terms like "abuse" and "mistreatment of animals" in close proximity to Shelley Browning's full name.

                                      Evolutionary science by day; keeping a certain red mare from winning a Darwin award the rest of the time!

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Scribbler View Post
                                        While I agree her riding was shocking in a high level dressage context and she was clearly way over her level that day, having her name permanently linked to the kinds of excoriation you'd apply to call the SPCA now! levels of physical abuse is hyperbole and not particularly helpful. I would have thought the internet interest in her would have faded out by now.
                                        Eh, we'll have to agree to disagree about whether one-handed whipping and angrily banging a horse in the mouth after the final salute are bad "in the context of high level riding" or because all horses deserve to be treated better than that. I agree that the blog post that is the top hit for "Shelley Browning dressage" is a poor bit of analysis and writing that indulges in hyperbole. But not that there's anything inherently unfair in public memory of someone's untoward actions being recorded on various web pages.

                                        In the end I don't think you need to worry about her reputation. She obviously has the finances to make sure the internet's memory of her bad behavior gets extinguished.
                                        Evolutionary science by day; keeping a certain red mare from winning a Darwin award the rest of the time!

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X