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  • Shows in your area struggling to get entries?

    I know less people seem to be showing now, but I'm seeing the effects of that this year in particular. We had one recognized show earlier in the year extend their closing date and then cancel the show. This was the first year I didn't participate in that show. Another show I'm registered for, which I've done the past two years, just extended their closing date. Something they haven't done before, and I'm worried they're going to cancel as well. A bummer because I'm looking forward to going to it.

    Have you seen shows struggling and getting cancelled in your area?

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    Are you in MD? Because I just got that email, too. It's odd, too, because the one recognized show we did this year had to add a ring due to number of entries, but I know there was one spring show in the area that was cancelled, and then this email about low entries at another show. It seems like we've added several shows in the area lately, and I wonder if that competition is cutting down numbers of entries? I know dressage people tend to not show as much as H/J folks, who are happy to be out almost every weekend. There's now a recognized dressage option here at least once a month during the summer.
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    • #3
      It depends on the show. There is one farm near me that has well run shows, a beautiful facility with great footing. I was showing there on the day entries opened for the next month's show. It filled that day! I'm not sure what makes this show so popular, but I think footing and facilities help. (no stabling available)

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        Originally posted by JenEM View Post
        Are you in MD? Because I just got that email, too. It's odd, too, because the one recognized show we did this year had to add a ring due to number of entries, but I know there was one spring show in the area that was cancelled, and then this email about low entries at another show. It seems like we've added several shows in the area lately, and I wonder if that competition is cutting down numbers of entries? I know dressage people tend to not show as much as H/J folks, who are happy to be out almost every weekend. There's now a recognized dressage option here at least once a month during the summer.
        Yeah, I'm in MD

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        • #5
          Looks like there was a drop at a show that decided to license as one competition earlier this summer but the show I attended was completely full. I have two more shows before championships so it will be interesting to see.

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          • #6
            We've had a reduction in the number of shows around here and I've seen quite a few extending deadlines, so it does some to be fewer people showing.

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            • #7
              We are a pretty tiny area, bur I've noticed that It goes in cycles around here. Last year was dire, this year, you'd better get your entries in early, because they are filling up. It's a strange year for it to be like this, because Regionals are a million miles away so not a huge impetus. However, the economy is good, and a lot of people have new young horses.

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              • #8
                The area that I still consider "mine," where I rode and went to shows for several years, doesn't even have an active show website anymore. I hear they still have shows, but they no longer have online entries or post results. My friends who still live there don't show anymore (some don't even ride anymore, for various reasons).
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                • #9
                  It’s odd up here, talking about smallish shows, but our last bronze show cancelled a judge, and ran on one ring rather than the normal 2. I hear Hunter jumpers are struggling as well.
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                  • #10
                    I think I got the same email- it's strange because their schooling shows have been well attended (it seems, I haven't gone to the last two since we had scheduling conflicts) although others in the same series seem to be struggling to get numbers. I have a coworker who works for BEST, I may ask her if their numbers are down as well.

                    I really hope they don't cancel, I move out of the area two weeks later and really wanted to get a recognized show in before that.

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                    • #11
                      Sigh.... try being a Driver in the Land of WP

                      I went to a show last month that had ONE class for minis. Period.
                      They tried adding a class for horses at the last minute (day before the show) - that failed.
                      So 4 of us showed up & Mgmt was thrilled.
                      Me, not so much as temps were in the 90s w/Heat Index over 100.

                      Following weekend I went to a better-attended Driving only show... But...
                      The outdoor arena had flooded so classes were held in a covered arena.
                      Fine, except the weekend before it had been used for Reiners.
                      Imagine how deep the footing had been dragged for them.
                      I asked to be excused from the 2nd class we did in there as he was breathing like a steam engine.
                      Judge then set next mini classes outside in a mowed field.

                      These were not rated shows, just local fundraisers.
                      But they are ALL that is available to me within a 3h drive.

                      Looking fwd to September's Carriage Classic in WI.
                      5h away, but friends & I plan to caravan & it will be not only ADS-rated, but largely attended.
                      Last year there were 14 VSE (minis) in my division.
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                      • #12
                        This is very general and based only on my own observations in my area. I feel that things have changed a lot since 2009-10. Since then, shows have been cancelled, venues changed, but, recently, I see things bouncing back a bit. Shows that were cancelled for 2-3 year starting to come back and see more entries. I also see people being more selective about shows they attend - instead of showing every single weekend like they used to, they cut back to a more realistic schedule.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Knubbsy View Post
                          I think I got the same email- it's strange because their schooling shows have been well attended (it seems, I haven't gone to the last two since we had scheduling conflicts) although others in the same series seem to be struggling to get numbers. I have a coworker who works for BEST, I may ask her if their numbers are down as well.

                          I really hope they don't cancel, I move out of the area two weeks later and really wanted to get a recognized show in before that.
                          I'm primarily a H/J person who does quite a few of the BEST shows. They've been as busy as ever, so far as I can tell. Their market is a little different than recognized dressage shows--their bread and butter is 1028473109 pleasure/shortstirrup/2' divisions, sort of the dressage equivalent of a show with a ton of Intro and Training rides. It's always a cross-your-fingers thing if you want to do a 3' section if it fills, except Gittings.

                          But I'd honestly do every show that runs at PG, it's so convenient to me.
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                            Can someone pm me which show was cancelled? I'm in the area and was going to do enter into some of the upcoming shows in MD. Thanks!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                              Sigh.... try being a Driver in the Land of WP

                              I went to a show last month that had ONE class for minis. Period.
                              They tried adding a class for horses at the last minute (day before the show) - that failed.
                              So 4 of us showed up & Mgmt was thrilled.
                              Me, not so much as temps were in the 90s w/Heat Index over 100.

                              Following weekend I went to a better-attended Driving only show... But...
                              The outdoor arena had flooded so classes were held in a covered arena.
                              Fine, except the weekend before it had been used for Reiners.
                              Imagine how deep the footing had been dragged for them.
                              I asked to be excused from the 2nd class we did in there as he was breathing like a steam engine.
                              Judge then set next mini classes outside in a mowed field.

                              These were not rated shows, just local fundraisers.
                              But they are ALL that is available to me within a 3h drive.

                              Looking fwd to September's Carriage Classic in WI.
                              5h away, but friends & I plan to caravan & it will be not only ADS-rated, but largely attended.
                              Last year there were 14 VSE (minis) in my division.
                              Hi 2Dogs: I'm not sure if you're familiar with Fox Valley Saddle Association, but they have a driving show series. Great facility; I'm not a member but I do their website work, but my daughter and I have been showing there for decades. Here is a link to the driving show info, and you can find more information at www.fvsa.org.

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                              • #16
                                I used to co-manage a Dressage and Combined Test schooling show. We typically held 8-9 shows a year (skipping the coldest months, we are wimps!) and attendance was rarely an issue. In the last few years, there were fewer and fewer CT entries, so we dropped that portion of it. It wasn't worth measuring, setting, decorating, and finding staff for a jump course if only a handful of people signed up. The dressage only shows continued to run pretty strong after that, until last year. We ran some shows that just barely hit our break-even number, and decided to call it quits. It sounds hasty, but in reality it was a well-thought-out decision that we hated to make. There were other factors too, like the facility needing updating, and a MAJOR lack of volunteers... But the volunteer thing is it's own issue, so I won't get into that here.

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                                • #17
                                  The local GMO here runs their shows 3 - 4 times a year. Aside from their show being held next week which had to be moved, they've cancelled the last 3 shows in a row.
                                  Also, a long standing regular spanish breed show here, which has been an annual event for years had their last show this year. This was my first year, but my trainer has been going for years and was saying how small it has become. Quite sad.
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                                  • #18
                                    I think around here people are looking for bargains and moving away from the GMO shows. Our schooling shows have fizzled out for the most part, because the GMO no longer puts on any, and many of the people who used to do them don't want to run them anymore.
                                    As far as shows, we have an independently run summer series (indoor, cooled arena, runs evening/morning) which is very popular. She is thinking of adding a third show. A new show which used to be held by a barn is back on the schedule for 2019 as well.

                                    Before I was around, I guess my GMO used to regularly have 3 ring shows. They've only had 2 rings, and sometimes more like 1 1/2, at shows I've been to besides State until recently. Now they seem to need 3 rings again more often, and I think they had 4 running at State. So around here, it seems as if participation is picking back up - maybe not to where it was 15 years ago, but headed that direction.
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                                    • #19
                                      We have lost several recognized shows in our area due to decreased attendance. Schooling shows seem to be okay, especially because they will do western dressage classes.

                                      And just recently we lost a venue because of the new USEF biosecurity requirements. Not that the venue doesn't care about the health of the horses at their shows, but it just became the last straw of the piling on of requirements to run a recognized show. So they have stopped all recognized shows, and may possibly get out of hosting shows altogether. The owners don't really need the money, and any income is now outweighed by the "hassle factor".

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                                      • #20
                                        downen Thanks for the tip.
                                        3h is stretching things for a schooling/fun show.
                                        I admit to being a wimp & wanting closer
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