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    Hi everyone. I'm putting up crossties in between two run-in sheds and all my options are open. I have two old iron rings I can screw in to the posts wherever I want. But I don't know exactly where I want. How high is best? And then, what crossties do I choose? I don't like chains. Rope? Something more modern? Your experiences and insight desired!
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  • #2
    Rings should be as high or higher than the poll of you tallest horse. I've even seen them hung from ceiling height (8 feetish?)

    Mine are blocker rings with ropes. I prefer that over the nylon or chain, although I do have smooth chain (as in not dog chain) ties for going to shows. Love the Blocker Rings! Very adjustable and since I have mine in a grooming stall, not an aisle, they are very safe.

    I've never had the bungee ones. The very thought of them scares me.
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    • #3
      I personally don't care for cross ties.

      I use the Blocker Ring to tie with the lead line and love it. You can also use the Blocker Ring for cross ties also.

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      • #4
        Hate the stretchy kind. Have a horse now that has figured out just how stretchy they are and will twist and turn and lean until you rescue him. It scares the hell out of me and I am going to get rid of them. I have imagined that just as I turn towards the thing it reaches the point that the snap gives and takes my eye out.

        I like bailer twine on a high ring with a nylon cross tie with safety clip on end. And I always leave the throat unlatched on my halters too.
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        • #5
          I L-O-V-E the Velcro Cross Ties. They have the traditional panic snaps, but the end that attaches to the halter is double covered in velcro. Should a horse pull, it stays. Should they pull hard or panic, it separates safely.
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          • #6
            Turtle snaps.

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            • #7
              Check out this thread http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/sh...clip+crossties I use The Clip http://www.theclip.info/ for my crossties and love it! Check out the video on the website. ETA You can adjust the amount of tension necessary for the horse to undo itself unlike the Blocker rings and don't have the noise associated with the velcro crossties (I personally hate those since 1. they are noisy, 2. the horses learn that they can break free at will, and 3. they never velcro back together quite right after having come undone a time or two).
              Last edited by FoxChaser; Jul. 1, 2010, 05:28 PM. Reason: More info.

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              • #8
                Both of my horses regularly undo themselves from the blocker rings at my barn. So I have to loop through and then around which pretty much defeats the purpose. If I had my own barn (and I have these in my trailer) I agree with ChocoMare on the Equips Tie Safe safety velcro cross-ties. I had to buy cross-tie length for my trailer because the hooks are waaaaaaay up at the top and I have little horses.

                Equips Safe Tie Velcro Cross-Ties

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                • #9
                  I have never seen the benefit of cross-tying. Who came up with this idea, anyway?

                  Every single time something goes wrong, one always has to rush over and unclip the crosstie from the wall so the horse doesn't freak out/flip over/etc. So why not just tie the beast with one tie to begin with?

                  Or, while the cross-tied horse is blocking the aisle, there are always people wanting to lead another horse past. Once again, one must undo one cross-tie. Or allow the other person to lead her horse under the cross-tie, thus courting disaster.

                  And then there is the fun to be had when one has a horse in cross-ties and someone else's horse gets loose and goes flying through the barn.

                  Why do we cross-tie, again?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post
                    I have never seen the benefit of cross-tying. Who came up with this idea, anyway?

                    Every single time something goes wrong, one always has to rush over and unclip the crosstie from the wall so the horse doesn't freak out/flip over/etc. So why not just tie the beast with one tie to begin with?

                    Or, while the cross-tied horse is blocking the aisle, there are always people wanting to lead another horse past. Once again, one must undo one cross-tie. Or allow the other person to lead her horse under the cross-tie, thus courting disaster.

                    And then there is the fun to be had when one has a horse in cross-ties and someone else's horse gets loose and goes flying through the barn.

                    Why do we cross-tie, again?
                    THIS.

                    Personally i hate them, leaving a horse "floating" in a barn alley often ends in disaster. I think people get really lazing when it comes to cross ties. Walking horses and ponies under the lines whilst squeezing in between a horse and a stall in an already narrow barn alley. I MUCH prefer to rail tie or tie up in a stall. Yes _I_ am a little more inconvenienced but the horses seem much more content and there seems to be way less "incidents" of horses getting anxious and worried about having BOTH sides of head tied to he can't look around, move to SEE whats going on or looking behind him to check out who's coming up.

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                    • #11
                      I like a nylon or cotton lead. I have a ring up 7ish feet high, and some twine tied down from that in a large loop so I can tie whatever I happen to have in my hand at the moment attached to my horse.

                      I prefer to single tie, but that might have developed out of lazyness or the fact that I work with so many youngsters who haven't quite figured out this whole crosstie thing yet.
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                      • #12
                        A Blocker Ring fan here too. But my horses are never unattended while on cross ties. Never experienced issues, but fully understand the risks of crosstying.

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                        • #13
                          Single-tie hitching rail fan here (groundtying for one of my mares, but only in the paddock or ring). Making a new rail this weekend actually. I always used cross-ties throughout my boarding 'career' because I didn't know there was another option. But now with my own place, I have discovered the freedom and ease of just single-tie with quick release knot and my horses just stand still, for anything and everything.

                          I have a toddler I am busy with and ended up leaving my mare at the rail and she was still there calm as can be just hanging out by herself for 45 mins. I kept taking peeks out there to make sure she was ok, but she was just hanging out without a care in the world. I don't make a habit of that but I am fairly confident that where I tie my mares, they will be relaxed and hang out until I am finished and we are ready to move on.

                          I wouldn't just leave any horse there but in my experience with cross ties, even just a few mins, the horses would get fidgety.
                          Last edited by bumblesmama; Jul. 2, 2010, 01:14 PM.
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                          • #14
                            I have to laugh, because I am in the "why exactly do we cross tie?" camp but I have them at home for bathing and clipping. We have two nylon lines set up between two shade trees close to water and power. I want to get the claw variety clips for quick release but when I set it up there were none available.
                            It's been my experience that if you put a fuse in there sooner or later they figure it out and then they acquire the nasty habit of pulling back on every tie, hoping to bust it and go awanderin'.
                            For grooming and saddling I tie to the pen rails and basically perform the operation in the pen.
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                            • #15
                              so I suppose you guys who cross tie in the aisle don't have a proper wash and grooming stall? I never understood barns that had cross ties blcoking the main alleyway. Single tie those suckers and teach them to stand against the wall, or don't take them out of their stalls. What a pain that is in the busy stable! especially when inconsderate owners leave them cross tied while they take a leisurely smoke, bathroom or coffee break. Cross tied horses should never be left unsupervised anyway. In my stable, any unattended horse left tied is quickly returned to their own stall, sans tack, before they decide to do it themselves.

                              Best thing I put in my barn was a separate grooming stall. In a pinch I can put a pipe corral section across the front and have a spare stall, and when using it for its proper purpose, horses are never in the way of anyone else.

                              Aside from hanging the rings as high as you can comfortably reach (remember you are going to have to tie things to them- you don't want to need a ladder), if you use plain iron rings, then tie a loop of binder twine to the ring and attach your leadropes to that instead. It breaks if the horse tries to wreck, but is secure enough for most horses that stand nicely.

                              My stablehand single tied a mare to the iron ring directly the other day, although I had warned her to always use the twine loop and preferably to cross tie that particular mare,(who learned at a kids' camp to pull back and break the leadrope) . Well, for some reason, she didn't remember, the mare pulled back, broke the brass snap on the brand new lead rope, sat on her butt in the aisle, rubbed her poll with the halter and when recovering, stomped the stablehand's foot really really good. Thank heavens the mare is barefoot and goes in a war bridle so I don't have to use any poll pressure for a couple of weeks.
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                              • #16
                                I will only use rope for X-ties. The rings that attach to the wall are probably 6-7' high. It was 20 yrs ago when I put them up and I'm too lazy to go out and measure for an accurate height, but as someone said, at least as high as the poll on your tallest horse.

                                At the end of the rope toward the horse is a metal ring with baling twine (not the nylon twine) attached to a double end snap. If the horse pulls back, the twine breaks. I've seen a lot of people attach the baling twine to the high end of the X-ties so the rope is still attached to the horse to make for easy catching. I don't want to have to get a ladder out to replace the twine if it breaks which is why I do it at the snap end. The snap stays attached to the halter but has never caused an injury.
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                                • #17
                                  CatOnLap - no, both barns where I've boarded had separate wash stalls, with cross-ties, but horses were still groomed and tacked on aisleway cross-ties. The wash stall was only used for, er, washing.

                                  At one barn, I owned my own horse the entire time and just tacked up in the stall.

                                  But at the other, for much of the time, I was riding school horses, and those were not to be groomed or tacked in the stalls. I don't know for sure, but I think the BO worried about the students getting hurt in the stall with the horse - the clientele at that barn, although good riders, were not really horsepeople. So that may have been the reason for the policy.

                                  My own horse is far less fidgety when single-tied. Or not tied at all - now that he's home, I just put the halter on and throw the lead rope over his back. I'm working up to having him stand still without even that - he was doing so for awhile but recently turned back into a travellin' man. So I have the halter and lead to reinforce "stand" if needed.

                                  But of course that's one of the luxuries of having a horse at home. I wouldn't subject my fellow boarders' nerves to an untied horse - I always hated it when other boarders did that to me.
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                                  • #18
                                    Anything but bungee/stretchy material.
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                                    • #19
                                      I think I'm going to look for those velcro ties. The barn where I board has about a 15' wide aisleway that's 200' long and for the most part uses cross ties in the stall area, and head ties elsewhere. The set I use has regular old hay string on the nylon ties, which my horse has broken twice this month, spooking at some unknown hazard. The funny thing about him is if he is facing looking down that 200' he will stand straight. But if you have him facing out the back door, he'll move around until he can stand sideways and watch both directions. I also need to spend more time on ground tying, but he keeps wandering off...

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                                      • #20
                                        I personally do not like cross ties.......think they are one of the more dangerous ways to tie........tying to a wall or post using "The Clip"

                                        Dalemma
                                        Last edited by Dalemma; Jul. 4, 2010, 10:12 PM.

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