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  • How much can you haul with a half ton truck?

    I currently have a 3/4 ton and pull a 4 horse.. but am thinking of downsizing.. how much can a half ton truck haul normally? (of course I'd check the specs on the specific truck too)

    thanks

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    Originally posted by Paris View Post
    (of course I'd check the specs on the specific truck too)

    thanks
    Well there ya go.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Paris View Post
      check the specs on the specific truck
      That is the only way of knowing what a specific truck can haul. I have a 1/2 ton Dodge Club cab, and haul a 2 horse combo all aluminum g/n. It is a pretty big trailer, but only weighs 2500 lbs, so I have plenty of "room" before getting to my truck's 7500 max.
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        Thanks Fairview

        That's just the type of information I am looking for.

        Anyone else with actual truck/trailer specs?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fairview Horse Center View Post
          2 horse combo all aluminum g/n. It is a pretty big trailer, but only weighs 2500 lbs
          that weight seems light. I just weighed the following all alum trailers last week
          1. 2H BP with DR, total length of 15', 6'9" wide, 7'6" tall, weighs 3300lbs
          2. 2H GN with sideramp, no DR, 6'9" wide, 7'6" tall, box length 14', total length 21' 6", weighs 3800lbs.

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          • #6
            I have a 2007 Ford F-150 (5.4 liter xtra cab 4x4) with the 4.10 gear ratio which gives it more towing capability (up to 9,300 lbs vs. 7,800 lbs with the 3.55 gear ratio). I haul a two horse Hawk trailer with dressing room (GVWR 7,000) and have never had any problems. It's got plenty of pick up even with two big horses in the trailer, and it brakes well, doesn't sway, etc. I live in New England, and it's been everywhere from hilly CT to more mountainous VT and it's been great.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Paris View Post
              I currently have a 3/4 ton and pull a 4 horse.. but am thinking of downsizing.. how much can a half ton truck haul normally? (of course I'd check the specs on the specific truck too)

              thanks
              "Normally" anything from about 5K to about 13K. You really need to look at specific ones to get a useful answer.

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              • #8
                I have an '09 1500 Ram, with a V8 Hemi and a factory tow package that's rated to 8500lbs off the lot. I haven't bought a trailer yet, so I can't comment on how it handles. The "plan" is to buy something rated to about 7000lbs, and would probably only ever be loaded to 5-6000lbs to keep me well within safety margins.

                I wouldn't try towing with a V6...
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                • #9
                  It really does vary. My dad's Yukon (not extended) is rated to 7500 lb and my father-in-laws Ford F-150 is only 6500!

                  The new 2010 Ford F-150 can be configured to tow up to 11,300 lb I believe.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ibex View Post
                    I have an '09 1500 Ram, with a V8 Hemi and a factory tow package that's rated to 8500lbs off the lot. I haven't bought a trailer yet, so I can't comment on how it handles. The "plan" is to buy something rated to about 7000lbs, and would probably only ever be loaded to 5-6000lbs to keep me well within safety margins.

                    I wouldn't try towing with a V6...
                    I have a 2008 Dodge Ram 1500 and it's also rated to tow 8500 lbs. I had a Ram 3/4-ton previously and that was rated to tow 8850 lbs. My trailer only weighs about 2300 lbs empty (basic Kingston 2-horse BP no DR). It handles exceptionally well and I've been happy with it.

                    Like everyone has said it all depends on how the truck is set up so you have to read the info it comes with to know exactly.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Paris View Post
                      That's just the type of information I am looking for.

                      Anyone else with actual truck/trailer specs?
                      http://www.trailerlife.com/output.cfm?id=42175

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                      • #12
                        Also depends on your location. Coastal VA (flat) is very different than Reno to Tahoe
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by carolprudm View Post
                          Also depends on your location. Coastal VA (flat) is very different than Reno to Tahoe
                          I disagree. Trucks, by definition, are mobile. This means that Richmond today and Ashville tomorrow is a real possibility. And the Laws of Physics are the same in both places.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Guilherme View Post
                            I disagree. Trucks, by definition, are mobile. This means that Richmond today and Ashville tomorrow is a real possibility. And the Laws of Physics are the same in both places.

                            G.
                            Some people don't travel far from home.
                            Or perhaps they live in Kansas. I think it's silly to disregard travel habits geography and climate when considering a purchase.

                            My current trailer is about 8 years old. It has been west of Charlottesville three times and three times to Gaithersburg MD.

                            I don't like to travel and have to be really really motivated to go beyond about 40 miles. Luckily there is lots to keep me busy around here.

                            FWIW I did take my old half ton Suburban and steel trailer with 2 mares west of Blacksburg twice. It did require careful planning and driving. It's not something I would make a habit of doing
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                            • #15
                              carol's right. If you live in Kansas, your truck's not going to work as hard as if you live in Asheville or the Rocky Mtns, given the same hauling schedule.

                              A gooseneck trailer that only weighs 2300 lbs? What's the frame made out of, tinfoil?
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                              • #16
                                what motor? Half tons still come with 6 cylinder gas motors which will have trouble hauling anything bigger than a mini in a wheelbarrow.
                                Which gears and transmission? Half tons even with 8 cylinder gas motors can have a hard time towing if they are not geared right.
                                Which springs and shocks in the rear? The tongue weight of some trailers is enough to overwhelm the shocks in some stock pickups and will have your driver stargazing once you hitch up.
                                Do you have an equalizer or stabilizer frame mounted hitch? Those trucks that advertise they can pull 8000 lbs off the bumper are NOT talking about horses in a horse trailer!
                                Do you have a brake controller? need it. Heavy duty brakes? Lots of trucks are rated to pull heavy loads, I am not so confident in their ability to stop heavy loads.
                                Do you have a transmission cooler? need it. In smaller half tons it will save you replacing your transmission after a few years.

                                and so on.
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by CatOnLap View Post
                                  what motor? Half tons still come with 6 cylinder gas motors which will have trouble hauling anything bigger than a mini in a wheelbarrow.
                                  Which gears and transmission? Half tons even with 8 cylinder gas motors can have a hard time towing if they are not geared right.
                                  Which springs and shocks in the rear? The tongue weight of some trailers is enough to overwhelm the shocks in some stock pickups and will have your driver stargazing once you hitch up.
                                  Do you have an equalizer or stabilizer frame mounted hitch? Those trucks that advertise they can pull 8000 lbs off the bumper are NOT talking about horses in a horse trailer!
                                  Do you have a brake controller? need it. Heavy duty brakes? Lots of trucks are rated to pull heavy loads, I am not so confident in their ability to stop heavy loads.
                                  Do you have a transmission cooler? need it. In smaller half tons it will save you replacing your transmission after a few years.

                                  and so on.
                                  All this is so helpful! So, to recap:

                                  8 cylinders in a dinky half-ton gasoline.

                                  Gears in the half ton must be 4.10? No 3.73? And nothing shorter than that?

                                  Yes, get the tow package for these features especially:
                                  Firmer suspension, better cooling and better tranny or just a cooler for it? Anything separate elements of the "two package" I have left out and ought to inquire about?

                                  I assume you can install whatever bad-a$$ trailer-brake controller you'd like and get the trailer to perform as an anchor if you want. That's right or wrong?

                                  By the way, I also don't know how y'all are getting goosenecks that are an anorexic 2,300#. My aluminum 2H DR bumper pull is 3,500# and it doesn't look fat to me.

                                  Yes, tongue weight is important but I don't know that for trailer. How do I figure that out? Key because I'm too damned lazy for stabilizer bars. Get mad at me if you want for that, but please don't jinx me and cause a wreck with your powers just to make a point. I'll know it was you. Does that mean slackers like me can't afford to drop below the 3/4 ton mark?

                                  For those of you willing and able to read through all the truck specs Guilherme offered, a big question: How many lbs over the truck's rating do you want? Or is the trick to reading these about looking for shocks, coolers, gears and engine size and not just the manufacturer's final tow rating?

                                  I agree that you might not want to get really close to the final weight rating for horses since they can jump up and down in a way that even a really pissed off boat can't.
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                                  • #18
                                    My b/o hauled a 4-horse with a 3/4 ton GMC pickup and was never happy. She finally went out a bought her dream truck, a 1 ton GMC dually with all the bells and whistles in the towing package. The first time I rode in the truck with her I was amazed at what a difference it made. Maybe on flat ground you could tow a 4-horse with a 1/2 ton, but she also wore out the tranny in her Suburban towing a steel 2-horse. No trailer hitch on the new Suburban!

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                                    • #19
                                      You know . . . I don't feel safe controlling a horse trailer loaded to the gills with a 1/2 ton after pulling the same thing with a 3/4 ton. Even with a two horse I'd not go back down in truck size. And yes, it was all within the specs of the truck by a reasonable margin--but of course, a live load is not the same as pulling a boat, either.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by EiRide View Post
                                        You know . . . I don't feel safe controlling a horse trailer loaded to the gills with a 1/2 ton after pulling the same thing with a 3/4 ton. Even with a two horse I'd not go back down in truck size. And yes, it was all within the specs of the truck by a reasonable margin--but of course, a live load is not the same as pulling a boat, either.
                                        Your answer is a 1/2 ton can haul nothing?

                                        So with basically no knowledge on the subject you feel compelled to answer this technical question?
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