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In a bit of a truck pickle..Dodge or Ford?

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  • #41
    The 6.0 in the Ford was crap.

    That is why I drove a 7.3 357,000 miles.

    Anyone that thinks the 7.3 is crap just does not know what he is talking about.

    There are hundreds of them that have gone over 500,000 miles.

    There is a wrecker service in a town near me that has 30 of them and most of them went over 500,000.

    The 7.3 did have one weakness and that was the fact that the injector were operated by oil pressure.

    So on a really cold morning, a weak battery would run the gow plugs, turn the engine just enough that it would almost fire up and then the batteries would die.

    OK if you had good batteries, but hard to start on really cold days unless the batteries would turn the engine fast enough to get the oil pressure where it needed to be.

    On the 08, they did away with that crap and used the common rail method and it cranks like a gas engine.

    But when anyone says "my ....had a Ford and it was crap...that means nothing unless you know the year and engine model.

    I an driving my 5th Ford Diesel. I put 214,000 on the next to the last and 357,000 on the last and I would not have traded it except that I am old enough to buy a new one if I want it.

    But I would not have a 6.0 if you gave it to me for nothing.

    That is the engine that got Ford and International in a lawsuit.

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    • #42
      ---"Nope. My dad had Ford, NOTHING but trouble. Fixed or repaired daily, he called it."---

      Funny, that is just what my neighbor has told me the last four years, since his latest Dodge keeps quitting on him and he has to come to get my 1990 150F to get around while they fix his.

      He threatens to get a Ford next, but of course he won't, I don't think.

      Another neighbor buys fleet pickups for his farms and they are all Fords.
      He tells me he rarely have one quit on them, old or new and Ford gives them the best deals, a win all the way around.
      Most around here have Fords.
      South of here more varied and West more Dodges and all are basically happy with what we have.

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      • #43
        Have to go with a Dodge . . .

        I've had both Fords (F250 then went to an F350 dually) and then purchased a Dodge in 2006 (my husband's idea, not mine). As luck would have it, 3 months later someone rear-ended me going about 65 miles an hour. Brain injury and some other "stuff" but the truck pretty much saved my life. It was totalled but I'm still here . . . something the doctor's say wouldn't have happened had I been in anything else. So . . . while I LOVED my Fords, which pulled well but were gas/diesel guzzlers for the most part, I have to go with the Dodge. On top of the above, we get roughly 22 mpg on a daily basis with our Dodge 2500, 18 mpg pulling a 4 horse w/LQ (open highway). Granted my husband has done some "tweaking" to get our fuel mileage to that point. If you go Dodge, definitely go diesel and if you can, try to find one that was manufactured before the big engine change. My hubby was furious when it happened and swears he won't buy one. Cummins is the way to go . . .

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        • #44
          I had a Ford F150 and it was not only a gas guzzler but when ever it was even a little damp out (morning dew) the brakes would lock and the truck would literally bounce. Even if you just touched the brakes they would grab. Not very safe. I took it to 3 different dealerships before giving up.

          Then got a Chevy Silverado V8 4x4. Towed great but a maintenance nightmare.

          On to the Dodge V8 4x4. Better then either one of the other 2 but mine had a mechanism on it that required you to pull out a knob (similar to a cigarette lighter) to use the high beams. (This was an older model). The dang thing use to pull out in my hand. Very interesting. Other then that, I liked it but they are known for transmission problems in their automatics.

          Then the Toyota Tundra extended cab V8 4x4. Bought it new in 2009. It now has 92,000 miles on it and I love it. Tows like a champ, gets 17 mpg and is just great. I know Toyota is in deep do do right now, but I'd buy another one in a heartbeat. Probably get a good price on it too!!!!!
          Life is what happens when you're making other plans. RiverDance

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          • #45
            Jeeze, why not just title it: "Parelli's Rollkuring Dodge Hauls Horses to Meat Plant"?

            All opinions all the time when it comes to trucks/breeds/Brenderups/dogs/feral children/saddles etc.

            I've towed 2 horse trailers with a Ford Bronco (no drama and it towed well for 100K). Also a Chevy Avalanche (only a half-ton truck with cladding) was used for a 16' steel stock trailer...it did great but just didn't have a lot of "guts" when the big hills hit.

            I currently have a new Dodge 3500 1 ton dually diesel for towing...it's by far my favourite truck I've ever towed with. Nice commuting vehicle if the roads not too bumpy or I have to park it in the city. Those wide hips make todays little narrow parking spots even more of a hassle.

            Buy what you like, you'll always hear crap from 2/3rds of the people anyway about your choice.
            "Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc"

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            • #46
              Yeah, but look what you are comparing it to.

              Here are the facts of life:

              2009 sales numbers. Bear in mind the Dodge is the lowest price by far.

              Note Ford numbers are almost 3 times that of Dodge.

              I don't care what anyone buys. I am not in the truck business, but I hate to see people knock a product about which they obviously know so little.

              Furthermore, one made by a company that told Obummer, the Marxist now posing as a Fascist, to take his money and go to hell with it, that had the guts to go it on their own even when it looked really tough for them.

              I admire them for it. If more of the big businesses would do the same, we would not see our freedoms being eroded bit by bit.

              CSSJR

              No. 1: Ford F-Series
              413,625 -19.8% YTD
              December 2009: 48,209
              December 2008: 41,580

              No. 2: Chevrolet Silverado
              316,544 -31.9% YTD
              December 2009: 33,301
              December 2008: 33,340

              No. 3: Dodge Ram
              177,268 -28.0% YTD
              December 2009: 12,014
              December 2008: 16,618

              No. 4: GMC Sierra
              111,842 -33.6% YTD
              December 2009: 12,144
              December 2008: 12,980

              No. 5: Toyota Tacoma
              111,824 -22.7% YTD
              December 2009: 9,497
              December 2008: 8,691

              No. 6: Toyota Tundra
              79,385 -42.2% YTD
              December 2009: 8,870
              December 2008: 9,191

              No. 7: Ford Ranger
              55,600 -15.6% YTD
              December 2009: 4,503
              December 2008: 3,855

              No. 8: Chevrolet Colorado
              32,413 -40.4% YTD
              December 2009: 1,799
              December 2008: 4,447

              No. 9: Nissan Frontier
              28,415 -36.9% YTD
              December 2009: 2,988
              December 2008: 1,402

              No. 10: Nissan Titan
              19,042 -44.1% YTD
              December 2009: 2,148
              December 2008: 2,124

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              • #47
                New Truck

                Originally posted by PnkPanthr View Post
                So I am in the market for a truck to pull a two horse gooseneck trailer. I would need it for everyday barn use as well, so I need something that will last me as long as possible.

                Seems like I am between two major brands, Ford and Dodge.(probably somewhere between and F250+ and a Dodge Ram 2500+) But everyone I have talked to have either been die hard Dodge fans, or "would never get anything but a Ford fans."

                So I come to ask you guys! So what do you guys use to pull your rig? Ford or Dodge? Maybe another brand? Why?

                Any help you guys could give me that would be great!
                FORD! FORD! FORD!

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                • #48
                  Another thing to consider in this ecomomic environment: which of these manufacturers is most likely to be around long enough to service your vehicle, i.e. which is not on government welfare?

                  As for Toyota, there's some interesting facts you might not be aware of if you get your information sprawling slack-jawed and glassy-eyed in front of a boob-toob.
                  Last edited by Frank B; Feb. 26, 2010, 10:22 AM.
                  The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
                  Winston Churchill

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                  • #49
                    FORD!

                    Dodge has tranmisson slippage issues. At least in the 3 I've owned. Friends with them agree too.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Frank B View Post
                      Another thing to consider in this ecomomic environment: which of these manufacturers is most likely to be around long enough to service your vehicle?

                      As for Toyota, there's some interesting facts you might not be aware of if you get your information sprawling slack-jawed and glassy-eyed in front of a boob-toob.
                      Unintended consequences and all that silly stuff.

                      I was wondering when some would come back with: All car makers are in the same pickle, where they don't always make timely recalls, some not at all.

                      A little disingenuous to throw rocks thru other's windows, when you live in glass houses.

                      I will reserve my comments on the politics of all that, not the place for it here.

                      Honestly, our local garage works on all kinds of local pickups and they keep telling us that there is really little difference from one to the other mechanically, not in a way that will impact our decisions what to get.
                      None is perfect, so get the one you like the looks and how it drives best.

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                      • #51
                        My 88 Dodge had no transmission issues for the 14 years it was my main driver/hauler/farm truck. My 2001 seemed like it was slipping, but it had a computer issue a few years ago, and it cost $400 to fix. (Thank God I had purchased an aftermarket warranty, as when I took the truck into the dealer, they said it needed a new trans. They wanted to charge me an uncrating fee of $1500 for the warranty company's trans. I freaked, and called the warranty company, who sent me to AAMCO instead. The Dealer actually chanrged me over $100 for their lying estimate. They would have stolen my good trans.)

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                        • #52
                          FORD! Not only because they told Zero to stuff his money but because I have owned Dodge,Chevy,and GMC and hands down Ford was the better truck. I just sold my 88' F250 with 350,000 miles on it and it is still going down the road hauling.

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                            I think I would rather ask at the track what makes a good truck and at the rodeo what makes a good cow horse.
                            CSSJR
                            The view "from the track";

                            The only reason to use a pickup truck for towing is
                            1)You can't afford a semi/hauler.
                            2)You can jam the crew in a dually and not have to buy airline tickets.
                            3) You don't have to rent a car at the track.
                            4) The manufacturer gives you preferential pricing.

                            Drawbacks;
                            1) As a serious tow truck they suck (whatever brand).
                            2) You have to carry almost a whole truck in spare parts to replace what falls out on the road.
                            3) You can't carry as much equipment as you really need due to low towing capacity.
                            4) You have to be careful that the smoke doesn't escape!

                            If there is one thing a racing mechanic REALLY hates it is getting his hands all dirty working on a nasty/smelly/disgusting road vehicle, especially on the side of the road. With a pickup it's a certainty.
                            Last edited by Equibrit; Feb. 26, 2010, 05:39 PM.
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                            • #54
                              So you pull your horses with a semi?

                              CSSJR

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                              • #55
                                Chocolate anyone?

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                                  So you pull your horses with a semi?

                                  CSSJR
                                  Many professionals around here sure do, if they haul more than three horses.
                                  It is the safest way to haul for the larger rigs.
                                  You can see them parked all over any show or cutting.

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                                  • #57
                                    Andf do you?

                                    CSSJR

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                                    • #58
                                      Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                                      So you pull your horses with a semi?

                                      CSSJR
                                      That's a pretty silly question. Then again, I have made no claim that professional horsemen prefer them.
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                                      • #59
                                        No, it really is not silly because we were having a discussion as to what OP might consider for pulling her horses.

                                        We were talking about Dodges and Fords and I suggested that the stock car people were a good source of information as to which of the two they preferred.

                                        Rather than giving us your expert opinion on that, you inform me that stock car people don't use dinky little trucks, they use semi's.

                                        So your post did noting to help OP, ran us off on a tangent that has no use whatsoever.

                                        So now that we are all impressed with your knowledge, how about answering my question: What would a quick count of those little iddy bitty pickups on the race track tell us about the popularity of Fords, Duramax and Dodge?

                                        CSSJR

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                                        • #60
                                          Don't you think the fact that you may see more Fords on NASCAR infields than Dodges, just MAY be because Ford had been very involved with Nascar for a LONG time, and Dodge has not?

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