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In a bit of a truck pickle..Dodge or Ford?

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  • #21
    I have not driven any newer than '05 Ford trucks, but my experience is that the turning radius was considerably worse than my Dodge truck's turning radius.

    They might have improved the turning radius, but I am fond of being able to u-turn my 4 horse gooseneck in my driveway.

    I will say that for used, go read the various truck boards. Most models have something in some years that have become known issues. My 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 V10, 2WD was great...except that 2WD part! I replaced it with a 2002 Dodge Ram 3500 Dually 4x4 and I've liked it, but discovered what the "known issue" turned out to be in my year model...the fuel pump was underpowered thus killing the injector pumps...and that is pricey to fix. But, once fixed (both have to be fixed) the engine is a workhorse.

    Buy what you like driving.

    The best part of my current truck is that it is paid for and I expect to get another 15 years out of it!

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    • #22
      Another Dodge lover here. My husband and I are an "all Dodge family." I have a 3/4 ton with the 4 x 4 turbo diesel that is my daily driver and 2 horse trailer hauler. Also have a 1 ton diesel dually that carries the camper and hauls the 4 horse BP. DH also has an older dodge dakota as his everyday work truck. My truck is a 2001 with over 160k miles on it and an automatic to boot and haven't had one problem with it. The dually doesn't have as many miles and it has a 6 speed, still no problems.
      Yogurt - If you're so cultured, how come I never see you at the opera? Steven Colbert

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      • #23
        If you're going new.... well, my BFF's hubby, who is a die-hard Ford guy, had three words for me when I was shopping:

        "Get a Dodge"
        "Adulthood? You're playing with ponies. That is, like, every 9 year old girl's dream. Adulthood?? You're rocking the HELL out of grade 6, girl."

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        • #24
          I don't think I would take a late model ('05-'08) Ford truck if you gave it to me. I have four friends with F-250s (or greater) and they all have had massive problems. One diesel engine blew up (as in, FIRE) on the highway. Two others had serious engine issues and transmission problems. It seemed like those trucks were always in the shop!

          My own truck is a GMC 1500, and knock-wood, has been a sturdy, trustworthy vehicle. About 170,000 miles (probably 100K towing trailer), with a little more than routine maintenance.

          I'm not opposed to Dodge, though. Known several good ones, including the current farm truck. I LOVE towing with it, 2500 diesel, and you hardly notice the 3h gooseneck trailer.
          “A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.”
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          • #25
            Originally posted by EventerAJ View Post
            I don't think I would take a late model ('05-'08) Ford truck if you gave it to me. I have four friends with F-250s (or greater) and they all have had massive problems. One diesel engine blew up (as in, FIRE) on the highway. Two others had serious engine issues and transmission problems. It seemed like those trucks were always in the shop!

            My own truck is a GMC 1500, and knock-wood, has been a sturdy, trustworthy vehicle. About 170,000 miles (probably 100K towing trailer), with a little more than routine maintenance.

            I'm not opposed to Dodge, though. Known several good ones, including the current farm truck. I LOVE towing with it, 2500 diesel, and you hardly notice the 3h gooseneck trailer.

            Total nonsense.

            The ford 2008 is an entirely different truck than the earlier model years you mention.

            It has an entirely different engine. The cab is totally different.

            The automatic transmission is the same, but that was vastly improved in '98 or '99 and they now outlast the manuals.

            There is no comparison.

            I have owned Ford trucks since 1965 or so and the '08 is by far the best I have owned.

            It is an F350 diesel, 4 x 4 SW.

            I have 62,000 on mine and pull a 4 horse regularly.

            I get 18 on the super. It likes to run at 65 and 70. Believe it or not, that seems to be its most efficient speed.

            I get 12 pulling the trailer on normal terrain, but it does drop to 9 in the mountains.

            I have the 3.73 rear end, 20" wheels and it is a job #3.

            If you want to know what kind of truck to buy, go to the NASCAR tracks and look at what the guys that really know trucks use to pull those heavy trailers. Fords will outnumber everything else.

            Of course, you have the factory sponsored teams, so you have to weigh that into your observations.

            Remember who owns Chrysler. Fiat, who makes acrappy car. The top two executives are Fiat men. Evntually you will get Fiat methods and quality.

            CSSJR
            Last edited by cssutton; Feb. 24, 2010, 06:29 PM. Reason: Who owns Chrysler

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            • #26
              I love Fords!! My mom has a 2004 F-150 that we have pulled a 2h BP all over the country with 2 fat WBs in with NO issue. That truck has 460000kms on it and she has never been good at up keep and she's totaled it once too (and as a teen I ran it hard thru the back woods). Its on the original engine and transmission.

              I have a 1992 Chevy 3500 single axle that I love, but for different reasons. This truck can pull! But its very slow... I've driven it everywhere and almost fliped it a$$ of tea kettle out on the back trails. Just the other day it ate a fan belt and the tensioner pulley fell apart and I could still make it home.
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              • #27
                Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                If you want to know what kind of truck to buy, go to the NASCAR tracks and look at what the guys that really know trucks use to pull those heavy trailers.
                Semi tractors.
                Originally posted by cssutton View Post
                Remember who owns Chrysler. Fiat, who makes acrappy car.
                Yeah those Ferraris and Maseratis they make are really shitty too.
                Last edited by Equibrit; Feb. 25, 2010, 11:21 PM.
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                • #28
                  I think its really funny how emotionally attached people are to brands of vehicles

                  Anyway, I had a line of Ford trucks throughout the years and then bought a Dodge 2500 this last time around.

                  So here's what I've found (heard from my mechanically inclined DH as well)
                  Fords- Electrical problems, not the best mileage, last forever
                  Dodge- transmission and brake problems, excellent mileage
                  Chevys- "the city people truck" look pretty but don't always hold up to heavy work loads
                  "You'll never see yourself in the mirror with your eyes closed"

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                  • #29
                    Go dodge.

                    My 99 3/4 ton 4wd gets 20+ on the highway and with three horse GN it gets an easy 15mpg.

                    a 2wd will get even better mileage.

                    did i mention it has over 300k miles on it? (aside from my idiot cousin who drove it with NO oil in it, engine was replaced under warranty) it has only seen routine maintenance.

                    im expecting another 100k-200k outta her easily.

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                    • #30
                      My 2003 Ford F-250 6.0 Diesel just hit 100,000. Low mileage for that many years but most of those were towing, and quite a few of them were towing a 30' RV all across the country. Only problem so far has been a failed injector that was pricey to replace (but it didn't leave me stranded and limped back from IL to PA) and some EGR valve cleaning. That truck is so darn comfortable for long trips.

                      My old boss had a shoeing rig and he bought a new Dodge 2500. After riding in my Ford he was wishing he'd gone Ford instead, just for the comfort and the ride.

                      If either brand had problems more major than the other there wouldn't be such a hot contest over which was better. They both make good trucks. It's mostly personal preference at this point. Either way it's always a good idea to never buy the first year's run after a major engine change.
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                      • #31
                        [QUOTE=Equibrit;4708843]Semi tractors.



                        I live right in the middle of NASCAR country.

                        The highway by my office is heavily traveled by racing people.

                        I see a very small number of semi's compared to Fords pulling race car trailers.

                        CSSJR

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                        • #32
                          Who ever offers you the best bumper to bumper warranty w/ out being crazy priced over the other... each brand will always have someone to say it's the best. I think the bumper to bumper warranty that is offered is the most valuable part of the package!!!
                          Monica
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                          • #33
                            I have a Ford F350 long bed with crew cab and I love it. The whole family can travel comfortably and there is no worry that the gn will bump the rear window on a tight turn. True, the turning radius is not like a car and if I take it to the grocery store, it's a hike from the far end of the parking lot where I can find room for pull through space but it's been a great truck and it hauls beautifully.

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                            • #34
                              [quote=cssutton;4709257]
                              Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                              Semi tractors.



                              I live right in the middle of NASCAR country.

                              The highway by my office is heavily traveled by racing people.

                              I see a very small number of semi's compared to Fords pulling race car trailers.

                              CSSJR
                              I make my living in the professional racecar industry, and have done so for 30 years..
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                              • #35
                                OK.

                                So as an authority with impeccable credentials on the subject of NAASCAR, you are prepaired to make the statement that there are no F350's or F450's, Dodges or Duramax's pulling race cars or equipment trailers. Nothing but semi's.

                                Right?

                                CSSJR

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                                • #36
                                  So NASCAR uses fords...

                                  I could make the same arguement based on the rodeo guys i see in my neck of the woods. every giant living quarters trailer is towed by dodge.

                                  or the same for the car haulers is see driving up and down I-5. all new dodges.

                                  does it matter?


                                  to the OP, Try both vehicles choose what you like. i personally think the cummins (wrapped in the dodge body) is better...

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                                  • #37
                                    Originally posted by cssutton View Post

                                    If you want to know what kind of truck to buy, go to the NASCAR tracks and look at what the guys that really know trucks use to pull those heavy trailers.
                                    Indeed F350/450s do pull smaller car and equipment trailers, but not "those heavy trailers".
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                                    • #38
                                      OK, so now that we have got that far, what is the percentage of Fords, Dodges and Duramax?

                                      CSSJR

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                                      • #39
                                        I don't really care, nor do I give a damn. I just have a really low tolerance for uninformed blather from "experts". They are all prehistoric, poor excuses for engineering and motor vehicle technology anyway.
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                                        • #40
                                          Originally posted by weasel1088 View Post
                                          So NASCAR uses fords...

                                          I could make the same arguement based on the rodeo guys i see in my neck of the woods. every giant living quarters trailer is towed by dodge.

                                          or the same for the car haulers is see driving up and down I-5. all new dodges.

                                          does it matter?


                                          to the OP, Try both vehicles choose what you like. i personally think the cummins (wrapped in the dodge body) is better...

                                          I like your rodeo example.

                                          So you go to the rodeo to find out what kind of truck to buy?

                                          So next time you want to know about what makes a good cow horse, you will go to the NAASCAR track and ask one of their mechanics?

                                          I think I would rather ask at the track what makes a good truck and at the rodeo what makes a good cow horse.

                                          CSSJR

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