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  • Dog left out in blizzard!- AGAIN!

    Ok farm people.. if I'm being too dramatic let me know, I wasn't raised on a farm nor do I know "farm dog rules"

    My next door neighbor has a lab mix thingy that's been outside for at least 5 hours now.

    I'm in MD and it's snowing like crazy here, it's been below 20 the last few nights and the dog has no shelter (it's in a chain link pen)

    I noticed the dog out while I was getting ready for bed a few hours ago and it woke me up about 45 mins ago barking at the salt trucks going by.

    I waited to see if this would attract the owner's attention... no

    I finally called the police and explained what was going on, waiting for the officer to come.. watched him walk up, and then leave!

    He didn't even go back and look at the dog

    Dog is still back there.. still barking



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    5pm- OMG they just put the dog back out AGAIN! I wish I could have seen who they were but I just looked out when the dog was barking again

    I'm thinking that maybe it's someone that works nights

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    Leaving a dog out with no shelter in these conditions would warrant a call to my local Humane Society. Is it always out, or does it just bark all the time when it is out?

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      #3
      Originally posted by eventermomoh View Post
      Leaving a dog out with no shelter in these conditions would warrant a call to my local Humane Society. Is it always out, or does it just bark all the time when it is out?
      SPCA has a message saying after hours call the police.. which is what I did

      I will def. call them again in the morning.

      The dog is out a LOT but I've never noticed it out in weather like this. I want to give the owner the benefit of the doubt and think maybe they are snowed in somewhere, or something.. but the little I know about them (not much except I had to call the police last week for a violent domestic dispute that played out on the front yard...) makes me think they just don't want him in, or forgot about him all together.
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      • #4
        Awe, poor guy. I don't think you are over reacting. Who would want to be left in snowstorm with no shelter??

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          Originally posted by eventermomoh View Post
          Awe, poor guy. I don't think you are over reacting. Who would want to be left in snowstorm with no shelter??
          and I'm sure no water.. it's been below freezing for a while now and I doubt they have a heated bowl and I don't like the whole "they can eat snow" excuse!

          I wanted to go back and get a closer look but the last thing I need is to be shot in 3 feet of snow at midnight!
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          • #6
            It's not your job, but if you or DH are handy, why not slap together a wooden dog house with insulation and gift your neighbor with it (or just put it in the pen with an anonymous note, maybe even a valentine card and a nice red bow on it). That would make the dog happy, you happy and if you are lucky, the neighbors will think it a neat thing (especially if its anonymous) and maybe be inspired to think a little about the dog. I see "happy" for everyone.

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            • #7
              I'd keep calling. Tonight. In horrible weather, without shelter or a windbreak, he may not make it until morning.

              Hopefully the dog has ID tags with the owner's current contact info (if you don't have them), and let's give them the benefit of the doubt that they are stuck somewhere.....

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                Originally posted by FatPalomino View Post
                I'd keep calling. Tonight. In horrible weather, without shelter or a windbreak, he may not make it until morning.

                Hopefully the dog has ID tags with the owner's current contact info (if you don't have them), and let's give them the benefit of the doubt that they are stuck somewhere.....
                That's what I was wondering.. I called my sister and said that he was just laying in the snow (he finally stopped barking for a while) and she was like "well maybe he'll burrow into the snow to keep warm"

                I know people live in igloos but a dog laying in the snow is NOT an igloo!

                But I feel bad because I'm sure there's so many emergencies that the police are having to deal with tonight
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                  well, unfortunately, if the owners are not home, there may not be that much the police can do.

                  I know that is not the 'right' answer, but I can tell you it happens.

                  It takes a lot more than that to TAKE someone's dog from their property. Part of being American and such.

                  There's a process... warnings, then summonses and such. You can't just remove an animal.
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                  • #10
                    Call again. Keep calling until you get a cop/dispatcher who takes it seriously. You might mention that they are in violation of Maryland state law requiring that animals have access to appropriate shelter and protection from weather.

                    http://www.animallaw.info/statutes/stusmd10_601_622.htm

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by pintopiaffe View Post
                      well, unfortunately, if the owners are not home, there may not be that much the police can do.I know that is not the 'right' answer, but I can tell you it happens.
                      It takes a lot more than that to TAKE someone's dog from their property. Part of being American and such. There's a process... warnings, then summonses and such. You can't just remove an animal.
                      Granted, my knowledge of this all comes from Animal Cops, but if it's clear that the animal is in danger of dying without immediate intervention, aren't cops/AC legally able to seize an animal immediately? The weather tonight is not a good scenario for a dog with no protection. In the OP's position I would call the cops back, reminding myself that it's not my fault for using their time/resources for a preventable situation, it's the neighbors' fault. Good luck!

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                      • #12
                        I know it is not a popular answer... but 20 degrees and snow is not life threatening to a dog with any kind of coat.

                        Is it kind? No. Is it humane? Probably not. But neither is it grounds for a police officer to remove the dog. They have to give the owner a chance to 'fix' things.

                        I know it's not the answer we want to hear.

                        Laws will vary by state, but my state has some of the toughest animal control laws, and no, I (probably) could not remove an animal in that situation. I'm not there, but... just sayin'.

                        Definitely follow up with AC. I know it's disturbing that nothing can be done tonight.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by pintopiaffe View Post
                          Definitely follow up with AC. I know it's disturbing that nothing can be done tonight.
                          Again, I would keep calling. Sometimes it takes a few calls to get a cop who is a dog/animal person and gives a damn.

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                          • #14
                            Call the neighbor and express your concern. If they are not home, rescue the dog and turn it over to the police/animal control.
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                            • #15
                              If they are not home, rescue the dog and turn it over to the police/animal control.
                              And that would be tresspassing and theft.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by pintopiaffe View Post
                                I know it is not a popular answer... but 20 degrees and snow is not life threatening to a dog with any kind of coat.
                                Eh, but a lab doesn't really have a coat. It's not designed to keep them warm in the way that a husky's is. My little Aussie/Husky mix has a thick double coat, and will just curl up and sleep in the snow. She loves it. Then I have a smooth coated Border collie mutt and a Beagle...they've got maybe half an hour before they are shivering, and they are carrying some extra pounds on them to boot.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by pintopiaffe View Post
                                  And that would be tresspassing and theft.
                                  If the neighbor is not home, it is a rescue. The "reasonable man" rule. A reasonable man would not leave a dog out in 20oF weather with no shelter and no water. That is animal cruelty. If the neighbor is home and doesn't provide the dog water and shelter, then he/she should be charged and the dog seized.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by GoForAGallop View Post
                                    Eh, but a lab doesn't really have a coat. It's not designed to keep them warm in the way that a husky's is. My little Aussie/Husky mix has a thick double coat, and will just curl up and sleep in the snow. She loves it. Then I have a smooth coated Border collie mutt and a Beagle...they've got maybe half an hour before they are shivering, and they are carrying some extra pounds on them to boot.
                                    I agree, 20 degrees is cold, especially all night. And no, a lab doesn't have a coat like a husky.

                                    But, fortunately for this dog, lab's DO have thick coats that are surprisingly warm. Their coats are supposed to keep them warm while leaping into cold water in Newfoundland. I'd worry his ears and paws were going to get cold overnight, but with his thick oily coat I wouldn't think he'd be at risk of dying unless there are other things going on (lack of nutrition, illness, age).

                                    Please let us know how the dog is doing this morning. I've got a big soft spot for labs.

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                                    • #19
                                      I think that I would have found him 'wandering loose' and took him in.
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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by kookicat View Post
                                        I think that I would have found him 'wandering loose' and took him in.
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