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  • What kind of snake is this?

    Saturday, while my JRT and I were playing in the pond, we stirred up a grumpy slithery guy. I am looking to identify the guy so that if he is venomous, I can look at getting him relocted.

    Anyone into snakes? MistyBlue?

    http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...er/pond040.jpg

    http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...er/pond039.jpg

    I don't know why he was so upset. Not like this would have waken him up or anything.

    http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/q...er/pond031.jpg
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  • #2
    I don't know what it is but

    If the snake is swimming in water, an easy way to determine if the snake is poisonous or not is to observe if it floats when at rest. A Texas snake that floats at rest is likely a western cottonmouth (remember "cotton floats") or a rattlesnake, as Nerodian water snakes do not float, even at rest, though their spines may come close to the surface when they swim vigorously. Rattlesnakes, like the cottonmouth, swim with their bodies slightly submerged, and float with their bodies above the surface of the water when at rest. ( from a snake website)

    This is what I have always been told, the bad ones swim on top of the water mostly. Any snake folks around?

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    • #3
      Water Moccasins can be very agressive and yes poisoness. 2Jakes is on her way back from Lake Louisa, so she probably won't see this for a day or two. She can probably tell from the photos.

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      • #4
        You might want to go to this thread

        http://chronicleforums.com/Forum/sho...222550&page=23

        and post. 2jakes will know, if anyone will.
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          #5
          Thanks guys! I will post a link over there.
          Rhode Islands are red;
          North Hollands are blue.
          Sorry my thoroughbreds
          Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :

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          • #6
            Looks like a water moccasin to me, but difficult to tell from the photos. And yes, they are quite aggressive and venomous.

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            • #7
              It is difficult to tell from those pictures, even though I look at a lot of snakes. It looks most like a water snake to me, not a cottonmouth. Both will readily flee in the water. Water snakes are actually generally grumpier than cottonmouths are and will bite much more readily. They are smelly but not venemous. But without a clear picture of the body pattern or head, you can't really tell.
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              • #8
                Looks like a water moccasin to me - don't want to stir them up. Highly venomous and agressive.
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                • #9
                  You can also go to the website

                  oksnakes.org

                  Even though the snakes on the site are native to Oklahoma, it will have good pictures and information on Water Mocassins/Cottonmouths, Copperheads, Rattlesnakes, along with non-poisonous snakes too....

                  We found a cute little snake in the barn Saturday...not poisonous, but it was fun to look it up on the website and know that we didn't kill something good.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by AnotherRound View Post
                    Looks like a water moccasin to me - don't want to stir them up. Highly venomous and agressive.
                    I agree. Not to be messed with. Gave me the heebie-jeebies just looking at the pictures. I'm sitting at my desk and my feet automatically came off the floor.....yikes. And I'm on the 3rd floor LOL.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Saidapal View Post
                      I agree. Not to be messed with. Gave me the heebie-jeebies just looking at the pictures. I'm sitting at my desk and my feet automatically came off the floor.....yikes. And I'm on the 3rd floor LOL.


                      I agree. There is something about snakes in water that is even creepier than snakes on dry land.
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                      • #12
                        This is one for 2 Jakes. Your pictures are beautiful.

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                        • #13
                          2Jakes 'rassles snakes for a living. And has pet snakes. PM her or post on her thread and she'll tell you if it is a cotton mouth or not.

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                          • #14
                            Yup, looks like a Water Mocassin from the pictures. Not so good to have around...be sure to have a plan (find out which vets in your area have antivenom, just in case) for your JR and watch where you step.

                            Do you have services or agencies that will relocate him? Do you see him often? Hopefully not and he was just passing through....

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                            • #15
                              Looks like a cottonmouth to me, too. And growing up in Florida and living waterside in Texas, I've seen my share.

                              Stay away, and keep adorable JRT away, too. DO NOT try to "rehome" this critter - it will kill you before that will happen. Just step wary for a while and it will probably either hibernate or relocate on its own. Or, if you're lucky, a hawk, heron or eagle will take care of the problem for you.
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                                #16
                                Thanks guys! That is kind of what I was afraid he was.

                                I have a friend who is a game warden, so I will call him and see if he can move him out or if he feels it's best to dispatch him humanely (and get him to do it for me). I am of the live and let live nature, but will listen to the advice of those in the know when it comes to creatures of the dangerous sort. I live in the middle of Nation Forests and Wetland areas, so maybe he/she could be relocated elsewhere.

                                Thank you for the comments about the photos and my JRT, Tanner. He is a great dog and we love to go out exploring and take photos.
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                                North Hollands are blue.
                                Sorry my thoroughbreds
                                Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :

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                                • #17
                                  Have to agree - as soon as I saw the pic I said cotton mouth! I would be more inclined to say it was a water snake if the scales were "bumpy" or rough looking. But from the pics, everything looks slick, which means it isnt a water snake. It is hard to be 100% sure but it also looks like it has more of the viper face with possible pits.

                                  Heres a close up of one I had on my back porch. Did you get enough of a look to see if it looked like this?

                                  http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...1/IMG_8188.jpg

                                  http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...1/IMG_8178.jpg
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                                  • #18
                                    Time for some well deserved target practice! Please don't rehome him. Just do away with him so he won't get someone else or their dogs. I love animals but will kill any venomous snakes in a heartbeat. Don't have to lose but one precious 4 legged family member to have a life long hate for them.
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                                    • #19
                                      Looks like a moccasin to me too. We killed one last week in front of our riverhouse~ they are on the move right now. Nasty things~ watch your doggies and where you put your hands.
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                                      • #20
                                        I hate killing snakes but sometimes you must. DH killed a snake that looked too much like a copperhead at the barn last week. It had moved into the shavings pile in the indoor and my instructor *thought* it was a copperhead, as did he. It was quite aggressive and that sealed its fate. They just couldn't take the chance since the shavings pile is used by the mucker and the lesson kids and dogs sometimes play on/in it.
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