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UPDATED AGAIN ON PAGE 1 - Arrive Home - Strangers Riding My Horses!!!!!

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  • UPDATED AGAIN ON PAGE 1 - Arrive Home - Strangers Riding My Horses!!!!!

    ..so we just arrived home after 4 days on vacation. There is a strange car in the drive-way...but our house door is locked and I call out "hello" thinking this must be Kristin's car who is farm sitting for us.

    A man's voice yells back at me from down at the barn. "Huh?" I think to myself. So I wander down to the barn and there is the guy I bought Oskar from 8 months ago...with a young woman. So I figure he stopped by unannounced to show the girl his old horse and say hello to him. ...oh, but he is also giving Oskar a hose down. "Oh, that's nice" I think to myself.

    Then he goes and gets Fritz out of his stall and I notice Fritz has wraps on !!!! "Oh, did you put those on?" "Yes", he answers. So I ask why and he says "oh, we went riding".

    Turns out the woman is not a rider, but he when in the tackroom, saddled up both horses, and off they go for a ride.

    I am absolutely mortifed. I have spent the last 16 months rehabbing Fritz and Oskar has been in rehab since February and is only allowed to walk for 30 minutes at a time. So the guy proceeds to tell me he cantered Oskar and he was "great".

    How is it that anyone can put helmets in their car, drive over unannounced, find no one home to ask permission, then walk into a barn, tack up the horses, and take a complete non-rider and stranger on a ride on someone's horses on their private property???

    Is this crazy or what? ...we already have locks on the gates...so they rode around the fields and in our ring!!!!



    UPDATED:

    Last night I emailed the guy a No Trespassing message with a requirement that if he did not respond, that I would follow up legally.

    I did not hear from him, so today we went to the police station and asked what we should do in our jurisdiction. The requirements were as follows:

    1. Notify the trespasser not to come on private property. Police say my email is sufficient even if I do not have confirmation that he received it.

    2. If the guy comes back, I am to call the non-emergency police number and when the police arrive I am to present the email showing he was duly notified.

    3. If the guy leaves and police do not arrive in time, I can press charges via the police commissioner.

    4. Post No Trespassing signs. (We are doing that now).

    ...And tell all who you meet, whether a friendly neighbor or kids selling girl scout cookies, that property visits are by appointment only. But seriously folks, how many people do you know whether it was someone you met 10 years ago, last week at the grocery store or you bought a horse from 8 months ago, that would actually come to your house unannounced, catch your horses, saddle them up and ride them? Most of us never expect something like this to happen.

    UPDATE TWO

    Since so many people had questions about all this, I wanted to add some more info:

    1. My initial reaction when I went to the barn was that something was wrong with the horses and the guy happened to be driving by and noticed. Since he didn't immediately volunteer what was going on, I continued to assume that something had happened and he was being a good samaritan. When the 2nd horse came out of the stall with wraps on, I immediately asked "is something wrong, why does he have wraps on?". Remember I had been away for 4 days and we all worry about our horses.

    2. The tack room was not locked and our barn is set back from the road. He had access to saddles, bridles and saddle pads. We put a lock on today. As my mother said "well, he could have come over with his own sadde, he brought helmets!".

    3. We happened to come home from vacation a day early. Had we not come home early, we would never have known what happened.

    4. The guy is 6'4" and plays football...my husband is the same size and not always the most welcoming person...hubby also happens to work for "the government". Another day, another reaction could have been a very different result which you might have heard about on the evening news.

    5. The horses all seem to be fine, the neighbors are not. Since we put up all the "No Trespassing" signs they are all asking what happened and when we are having a community meeting.

    6. I also happen to be Canadian so shoot me for not weilding a gun, going legal, and calling 911 at the first sign of impropriety. I also grew up in an age when neighbors drop-by to share vegetables and eggs and I try to carry on the tradition now. In a perfect world, the stranger would have been looking out for my horses which in an odd convaluted way he was - he put on wraps and hosed them down afterall!

    7. I broke a rib in a horse trial 4 weeks ago and today got back on and enjoyed a much missed ride with my beloved horse, who seems no worse for wear having been ridden unexpectedly by a complete beginner and new person to him!

    So what can I say?

    "God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy".
    Last edited by OneDaySoon; Aug. 6, 2009, 06:14 PM. Reason: Updated Information
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  • #2
    Um, they would've met Mr. Glock along with Me should such thing have occurred at my farm.
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    • #3
      That's a good one! I would have been tongue tied... for about 30 seconds. !
      ::Sometimes you have to burn a few bridges to keep the crazies from following you::

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      • #4
        That's ****** up! Who did those nutbags think they were?!
        Thus do we growl that our big toes have, at this moment, been thrown up from below!

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        • #5
          I hope you are typing this after wiping up the blood in the aisle? You DID kick his ass, right??

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          • #6
            Not sure if I understand the whole story but if it is how I read it, I would be calling the police and pressing charges for tresspassing. This is even worse than coming home to find some casual acquaintance sitting in your living room enjoying your food and watching your TV, without invitation.

            Did you ever tell him he could come ride the horse?

            If not that is way over the line, and yes, freaky...

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            • #7
              I just want to hear what you said/did!!! Hopefully it was something along the lines of "ARE YOU INSANE??" followed by a stern warning never to do it again.

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              • #8
                ummmm OMFG...the nerve of the man!!

                Time to get a registered letter sent to him that he is NOT allowed on your property and if he is found on said property he will be arrested for trespass and responsible for any of the animals injuries...


                I would also call your local police and tell them what you are doing...get a name of said cop and make a note about it with your registered letter...


                Or you could get a lawyer to do it for you..

                The nerve of some people....

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SteppinEasy View Post
                  I just want to hear what you said/did!!! Hopefully it was something along the lines of "ARE YOU INSANE??" followed by a stern warning never to do it again.


                  I would have unloaded two barrels of WHOOPP A$$$$$
                  "If you don't know where you are going, any road will take you there"

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, and can you imagine what might have happened if one of them had been hurt while riding the horses? OMG. That's just nuts. Who even begins to think something like that is okay? Even if maybe the OP had said something like "and if you want to you could come by sometime to ride {horse}." That still should be predicated on the guy calling and setting up a time to do so and making sure the offer is still open and...gah!

                    People. Are. Nuts.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arcadien View Post
                      Not sure if I understand the whole story but if it is how I read it, I would be calling the police and pressing charges for tresspassing. This is even worse than coming home to find some casual acquaintance sitting in your living room enjoying your food and watching your TV, without invitation.

                      Did you ever tell him he could come ride the horse?

                      If not that is way over the line, and yes, freaky...
                      Call the police now. Make a report. Comply with the criminal trespass laws in your state (ask the cops when they come to take the report) and follow the instructions and give Mr. Balls and his girlfriend each a criminal trespass notice to never darken your (barn) door again.
                      If they had been injured riding your horses, they'd be at a lawyer's office filling out the lawsuit against you. And adding loss of consortium.

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                      • #12
                        Seriously, OP? I'd have gone crazy, batshit, evil owner on that asshat.

                        I can't believe you even had a rational conversation with him!

                        I'd have been so mad, the only thing I could have done would be to try to beat him senseless with my dressage whip.

                        What part of 'sold' and 'doesn't belong to you' didn't this guy understand?

                        Good Lord, I'm not a particularly violent person, but you do NOT mess with my property or animals!
                        Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                        • #13

                          OK, Agreed that is Hands Down the weirdest story I've read here in a long time.

                          But OP: What DID you say to this guy?
                          And what answer could he have possibly given that might have justified his action?

                          Even if you HAD said "Come on over anytime..." finding you not home would have made me think a helluva lot more than twice about taking the no-longer-my horse out and then another horse he never owned, for a joyride with a non-rider.

                          Where has the fruitbat gone?
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                            #14
                            It is so crazy, I am still in shock.

                            Actually, I did not figure out what had occurred until he walked the one horse out of the stall with the wraps on, and then was so stunned when it dawned on me what had happened, that I forgot to load the bullets and start the welcome party for the a**hole.
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                            • #15
                              So, did you go Medusa scary on his ass once you figured it out? That's the burning question.

                              I'd also like to know what conversation led to his belief that he could, at any time, just come over and ride YOUR horses.

                              I sure hope you did your best crazy woman impression and ran him off the place with threats of bodily harm if he so much as stuck a toe onto your property ever again. If you didn't, shame on you!
                              Homeopathy claims water can cure you since it once held medicine. That's like saying you can get sustenance from an empty plate because it once held food.

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                              • #16
                                I would definitely call the police and at least get a report made. That way if it happens again and they get hurt, there is a record of him trespassing and being warned/punished. I hope your horses are OK and you're enjoying a good stiff drink.
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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by SmartAlex View Post
                                  That's a good one! I would have been tongue tied... for about 30 seconds. !
                                  Yea, me too and then the tongue lashing and cussing and tongue lashing and cussing would have started! And if his butt was still on my property it would be because he could barely move after I beat the living $hit out of him!
                                  Sue

                                  I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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                                  • #18
                                    Please tell us what you said to him. I'm always stressing to people to never stoop to the lowness of their adversary but with this one, I'd have made the exception. I would have parked his car in, called the cops and locked myself in the house. Then with cop as back-up, let the words fly from my mouth!

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                                    • #19
                                      I think I would have beaten the man severely with anything that came to hand, preferably a bullwhip.
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                                      • #20
                                        OMG I can't believe that. Another whoop ass can opener here. That is some major balls.
                                        But then I am always armed and would have shot them as horse theives.
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