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  • #41
    Originally posted by Weighaton View Post
    ........When I walk through our property I look around and think - wow this belongs to us. It makes me feel like Julie Andrews at the beginning of Sound of Music where she is spinning around on top of the mountain. Of course, we don't live on a mountain we live in the swamp.
    Hee, hee Odd, my mountain looks like a swamp too!

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    • #42
      yes, definitely possible. I'm in the married category but I do all the farm work. That's the way I want it anyway. My husband will help with repairs and feeding if I am out of town for work, but you can also hire people to do this. I think there is a definite distinction between hobby farm and business farm. Mine is a hobby farm. All for me. I dont' have to answer to anyone about whether the fields have been mowed, or the run ins cleaned out yet, or the if the tack room has been swept. I do it on my time. Your horse care requirements will make a big difference. If you want your hobby farm run like a boarding barn, with horses in stalls 12 hours a day, bedded deeply, nicely mowed yard, fields, landscaped, etc. This will be a LOT of work. I couldn't do it. If you don't mind your horses living out, you don't mind some weeds along the barn, you don't mind if your fields get a little overgrown.... it is definitely doable! Of course, I'm not talking about skimping on basic care. I have 10 horses, 40 acres, 2 small kids and 2 jobs where I work 40-60 hours a week. My horses look great. My farm looks ok. I did finally invest in a real tractor and I'm loving it! My fields look great now. But it is making the rest look a little shabby. The small weeds growing up around the barn were not so noticeable next to the tall weeds in the field. Now that the fields are mowed...
      Riding definitely takes a back seat. But, as the kids are getting older, I'm finding more time to ride. Love it. Wouldn't change it for the world!

      By the way, once you get a farm, you wonder what you did with all your free time before the farm, sit around and eat bon-bons?

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      • #43
        I'm married with 2 kids but run a 10 acre farm on my own (husband is not horsey) and have had up to 8 horses of various ages here at one time (currently have 5 horses and a mini-donk, 2 dogs, 3 cats, plus 36 ducks and chickens that are SUPPOSED to be the kids responsibility). The key as others have mentioned is a time saving/low maintenance set up and routine.

        Some suggestions:

        1. 24-7 turnout with sheds - use turnout rugs to keep them clean - no stalls to pick, no or limited shavings to pay for, HUGE time savings.

        2. Feed in the field when possible - nosebags may seem a bit "cowboy" but they are a great labor saving device when you have horses with different dietary requirements

        3. Roundbales - if you have a source for horse quality rounds this is a HUGE labor saver. Either switch to squares in the summer or get a covered round bale feeder

        4. Plan your water system - if you don't get auto waterers, you need to plan to get hoses and electricity for heaters to your tanks, and you need to plan a way to easily drain your hoses if you live in an area that freezes (don't underestimate what a pain in the ass frozen hoses are)

        5. Spring for the tractor with mower, round bale spear, and bucket. I don't have a manure spreader yet (I have a really nice compost "mountain" instead ) but that would save additional time/labor.

        Good luck.

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        • #44
          I think so if it is small enough or you have it set up easy enough that everything flows. There are lots of ways people make it more difficult than it needs to be.

          I'm not single and my husband does help a lot, but I think I could manage mine alone if I had too. I only have two horses, but could probably do 3. I think the key is to keep the number of horses low for one person.

          I have not read all the posts, so this may have been said. Mine live out 24/7 with access to stalls. There is no leading and bringing in for feeding. They come up when they see me coming with buckets and go in their respective stalls. It's really not that difficult.

          For me, pasture maintenance has been the most time consuming- although I put a lot of care into my pastures.

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          • #45
            By the way, once you get a farm, you wonder what you did with all your free time before the farm, sit around and eat bon-bons?
            Too true! My husband and I were just running errands together and discussing this in the car; what would I do if I were a "lady of leisure." I hemmed and hawed and my only thoughts were, "If I didn't have all the property and livestock work, I'd have more time for the property and livestock work!"
            I hate shopping and travelling and all that sort of stuff anyways.
            Although a couple hours in a hammock in the sahde with a good book sounds nice. But the view would have to be of my woods and paddocks and horses.
            You jump in the saddle,
            Hold onto the bridle!
            Jump in the line!
            ...Belefonte

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            • #46
              Originally posted by avezan View Post
              By the way, once you get a farm, you wonder what you did with all your free time before the farm, sit around and eat bon-bons?

              Actually, I've had my farm for 19 yrs and am 63 and plan to do just that (sit around and eat bon-bons) when I sell the farm!

              What I'm still trying to figure out is how in the world I ever managed to work a 55-60 hr week and still keep the farm looking terrific. I've been retired 6 yrs now and even have a couple of chores farmed out - that of: 1.)weedwacking the 300+' ditch out front and under all the post and rail fences, and 2.) washing my windows on the outside!

              PS. Actually I really do know the answer - the house got kinda forgotten about. I'd invite friends over for dinner so I had an excuse to clean up! I always made sure that the place looked picture-perfect from the road though.
              Sue

              I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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              • #47
                I could, but I'm glad I don't have to. I know that I could NOT make the amount of hay we do alone, even with a round baler. Its just too much for one person. Heck, some days its too much for two people!

                I think if you streamline your operation as others have suggested, and be prepared to hire the grunt labor out, it can be done.

                I think it takes a certain mind-set to be content on the farm. I have no desire to shop (in fact I have to be forced to do it) go to social outings, or get involved with the public in any way. Everyone else on my road has a camper that they drag to the local lake/state park every weekend. Sounds like hell to me Five foot away from the next person...yikes! My getting off the farm consists of trail rides in the State Forest for hours at a time.

                I have a terrific view from anywhere on my farm, lots of amusement watching the critters that inhabit it, both domestic and wild. We just got a young bull this morning, and put him in with the seven cows. The cows were thrilled, the bull gave me a look of such desperation...I just slammed the gate, said good luck buddy! Last I saw him, he was running up the hill, with the hot to trot cows in hot pursuit. All the retirees were lined up on the fenceline to enjoy the drama of it all. Who needs tv?

                I do occasionally go for a short vacation, which I enjoy. I'm always glad to get home.

                So, to get back to the original question...it can be done, but you have to be mentally prepared for it, as well as physically. How much do you really want your own farm?
                Facta non verba

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                • #48
                  I do (with a little help)

                  I am on 45 acres with 5 horses, mostly with no barn help. I work out of my home, no commute which really helps; a lot!

                  I have a tractor with a bucket, a manure wagon with hydraulics and 2 smaller tractors. I buy my hay...

                  I set up the turn out situation so the horses can come and go out of their stalls 24/7.
                  It makes life so much easier. In addition, when I have to travel for business or judging, my housesitter doesn't have to lead anyone out, much safer. I have 3 board fencing with a hot wire on top to keep the horses off the wood. I highly recommend this.

                  I mow the paddocks and my housesitter's boyfriend does the lawn...

                  It can be done...In fact I could do all the mowing but it would cut into riding and that I feel is not worth it. In addition, he mows the lawn much better than me.

                  Setting it up right at the start makes all the difference.

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                  • #49
                    Can one woman do it alone?

                    *sigh* There are times I wonder. I rented a house with pasture the last 4 years and did it alone. This year I moved into a place of my own. 25 acres, 3 horses, 3 dogs, 2 cats, 2 turtles. I started with an empty pasture and built (paid for) road/house/barn. It is rough right now and I don't ride as much as I'd like. I'm still arena-less with no crossfences. No one is volunteering to help build fence in triple digit heat! It is worth it, though. Gotta have a good tractor.

                    My biggest frustration is no horsie friends here to enjoy the fruits of my labors. And my boss doesn't understand why I don't want to give up my "free time". I keep getting volunteered for extracurricular activities. I'm single with no kids so what else would I do with my time? I gave up spending the night away years ago. I'm struggling right now but have long spurts where it is a breeze-this has been a lifelong dream. By next year I will have more fencing done and will have a MUCH more positive outlook. If I could've afforded to buy a place that was already built, I would have. However, I get to design the perfect place this way. The time/effort savers are a blessing.

                    Downside to owning: missing camaraderie and shared knowledge, no sick time. Upside: no drama, make your own decisions.

                    The answer to your question is YES.
                    I need to change my name to 2barelychunkymonkies.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by avezan View Post
                      By the way, once you get a farm, you wonder what you did with all your free time before the farm, sit around and eat bon-bons?
                      Isn't that the truth??

                      It might take some searching, but finding a good boarder can help tremendously. I have a boarder who I trade 100% board for work. She cleans all 3 stalls every day, picks the paddock & arena, cleans the aisle, feeds hay, poo-picks pastures, feeds when we are away (although I'm sure she'd do it anytime); I actually have to sneak into the barn to do some "stall cleaning therapy" from time to time and she'll get mad. She is grateful for the opportunity to have a place to board & ride, and I'm very happy for the help. Plus it's fun to have the company.

                      Believe me, I have no shortage of other things to do; mowing pastures, grooming arena, weedwacking, manure management, etc. etc. etc. but it's a very good tradeoff.

                      I do have a spouse but he is 100% non-horsey. His income is very helpful, though. We do hire out some things - I pay to have my hay unloaded and stacked (although having pasture 50% of the year helps a lot), and I pay to have various kids do odd jobs (weedwacking, sometimes mowing, random cleanup jobs around the place, etc.)

                      I definitely don't ride 6 days a week, though. With only an outdoor and lots of heavy rains this summer I'm only getting in 1-2 rides a week at the moment.

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                      • #51
                        Yes, but...

                        it's hard work.
                        I did it for about 25 years. 30 acres, 12-15 horses, competing up to three horses at a time, working full time. When it was good, it was very satisfying. I continued through broken bones, bronchitis, flu and various sprains and strains. When we had a monsoon, 3 months of drought, colder than normal winter or storms that damaged trees and buildings, sometimes I longed for a condo with a landlord I could yell at and a boarding barn so I could complain about the horse care.
                        Then I was in an accident and it all came crashing down because I was a one woman show. Fortunately, I found a retired neighbor who was able to do manual labor and learn about horses so we divided the labor and things are better than before because I am not so tired all the time. Now that I am 60, I could not do it alone and like
                        sunridge1, my body is pretty wrecked from all the hours of digging post holes, repairing roofs, plumbing and electrical, hours on the tractor etc and of course, the many horse accidents that are inevitible when you train horses. Since you are not really alone, maybe you could hire someone to buid fences and do building, plumbing and electrical repairs and avoid the broken body. All that being said, I would not trade the life I have led on my farm!!! It is so satisfying to sit on the porch after a day of working on the farm and see and hear my horses grazing just outside the yard. Good luck in making the right decision. If you have the constitution for it, nothing could be finer.
                        Piney Woods

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                        • #52
                          Single female with 5 acres, 2 horses, 2 dogs, 3 cats, and a full-time job so I'm gone about 10.5 hours a day M-F including commute. It's really not that difficult. I get up in the morning and feed everybody, walk the dogs for 10 mins, get ready for work, get home and feed, walk the dogs, have dinner and chill for a bit, then either ride, do maintenance around the place, or goof off, time for bed get up and do it again.

                          On the weekends I do maintenance or extra chores, but I have time to go out or visit with friends if I want. I have a couple of awesome, inexpensive housesitters for when I go out of town, I don't feel trapped or tied to the place any more than I want to be.

                          It's not as hard as some people make it sound and it's a good life. Pick and choose what is important to do and what can wait, don't stress if you can't do everything, let some stuff go.

                          For instance, I didn't get my field mowed this spring - usually I mow it a couple of times a month from mid-April to October so I can ride at home rather than haul out to an arena every ride. This year I've just been hauling out; the spring was so wet I couldn't drive the tractor on the field until late May and I've just been too busy to get it all mowed since. However, since I haven't mowed I have enough grass to have cut and baled, so it worked out.

                          Oh, and when I'm sick I just do minimal chores, it's not too bad. If I every got seriously sick, like needing surgery, I'd have to depend on friends and family, or hire my housesitter to help out, but I'd be needing extra help in that case even if I didn't have a farm but still lived alone. And I definitely prefer living alone.
                          Last edited by hb; Jul. 20, 2009, 02:59 AM.

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by saultgirl View Post
                            Thanks for all the replies. My fiancee, who is VERY supportive of my horsey habit, has told me that if I want a farm in the future, I will need to do the work. I've been wondering lately if that is at all possible.
                            Okay, reading through more of the thread and just caught this.

                            It is definitely possible to do all the work yourself.

                            However, if your husband is not at all interested in the farm, then when you are doing the work it might be considered taking away from "his" time, it may be considered "being selfish".

                            I experienced this with a guy that WANTED to move to the country. It was his idea to shop for a farm but once we moved here he resented every minute I spent working on it. I'm not saying your guy will do that, my ex was a jerk in many other ways that I didn't quite "get" until we lived together. However, even if you are doing all the work, living on the farm will affect his lifestyle. I'd recommend you two talk this through. It won't be just like now, more of your time will be taken up by working the farm and you may not be available to spend as much time doing things with him as you do now. It will take much more planning to go out of town. Even day trips will need to be arranged around feeding time. If he's not involved with the farm that may be an issue.

                            I know several couples who are both into the farming even if only the wife is into horses. A LOT of guys love coming home and playing with tractors on the weekend, or working on projects around the place. Maybe your guy will warm up to that. Or maybe he has his own time-intensive hobby so he won't feel neglected while you are busy. But it's probably a good idea to discuss the impact living on a farm will have on your relationship and on him.

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                            • #54
                              Nice catch! I absolutely would not under any circumstances buy a farm with the hopes and dreams of a future hubby not into farming. Make for darn sure he's into mowing, weedeating, fixing, and cleaning. He doesn't necessarily need to be into the animals. But boy, are both of you going to be resentful people if you both come into this situation with different lifestyles.
                              Even duct tape can't fix stupid

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                                #55
                                My fiance and I know each other pretty well; we have been together for almost 10 years and we were best friends for a few years before that. We bought a small house together in 2006 and now we're starting to think about the 5 to 10 year plan as far as upgrading to a bigger house.

                                He is totally ok with my horsey habit and he has come out to help me at the farm when I needed it (like doing hay and shavings). He has his own time-consuming hobbies and has never resented my time spent at the barn.

                                I'm not trying to turn him into a cowboy or anything... lol... he loves animals, he's just not into doing a lot of hard labour.

                                I'm just starting to think about all this now.... for the longest time I thought I would only ever board because I ride almost every day... but it's kind of different lately because of care concerns at a few barns.
                                Jigga:
                                Why must you chastise my brilliant idea with facts and logic? **picks up toys (and wine) and goes home**

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                                • #56
                                  Originally posted by saultgirl View Post
                                  I'm just starting to think about all this now.... for the longest time I thought I would only ever board because I ride almost every day... but it's kind of different lately because of care concerns at a few barns.
                                  You can still ride just about every day because the time spent driving to and from the barn is spent doing mowing or gardening or fixing fence.

                                  I rode ~5 days/wk and was alone. With your fiance willing to do some of the work, like mowing even, you should be able to ride 7 day/wk.

                                  The only thing I ever missed from boarding was the socialization. If you want some, build a large enough barn to be able to add a boarder or 2 but keep in mind the cost of insurance, both Care, Custody, and Control as well as Commercial Liability.
                                  Sue

                                  I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people...I'm just saying let's remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out.

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                                  • #57
                                    I am single, with 25 acres, 5 horses and a full time job. I do most of the farm work myself with the exception of bushhogging the big hill and cutting up trees. The same guy comes one Saturday in the Spring to assist in getting everything running and do the basic maintenance on my equipment. I can do most of it myself, but it involves blood.

                                    I ride 3 horses a day and work very hard, but it is all worth it. My thoughts on it are as follows: How hard could it be if men do it?? I do have several guys that I call on to give me advise... my Dad being number 1.

                                    I also use mostly electric fence! The hardest thing for me is heavy lifting or a stuck bolt. Oh, and also, killing of vermin, including snakes, possums and so forth.

                                    Good luck.

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                                    • #58
                                      Lots of superwomen on this thread. Rock on, Ladies!
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                                      • #59
                                        I have 5.5 acres, 4 horses & 2 cats. I compete one horse (low level eventing) and the others are pasture ornaments though still require attention, grooming, supplements, etc.

                                        It's a ton of work but I actually think it's easier now that I'm SINGLE and I don't have to worry about my (ex) husband who didn't do the work anyway. Four acres are in pasture, I have a new barn and a run-in shed. Everyone comes in at night to free choice stalls or shelter.

                                        I do ride 4-6 times a week and haul out 3-5 times a month for lessons and/or for XC schooling. If I had to ride another horse it would be tough.

                                        Hardest part is trying to keep a little bit of a social life b/c I don't feel like cleaning up to go to town after such a long day! I get up really early, feed, chores, ride, chores, work, feed, chores, bed check, sleep then start all over. Mowing, painting, hay storage, house cleaning, etc gets done on whatever day off I have, which tends to vary.

                                        Things slide a bit when I'm competeing but it works since I have good venues close to home.

                                        Winter is harder mainly b/c I lack the motivation to be out in the dark in the cold and I have to feed 4 times a day so I end up driving a lot back and forth to the farm some days (I run my own biz so have a flexible but full schedule).

                                        It's the best life, I can't imagine any other way!
                                        Ready ~ 1999-2009 ~ you were bigger than life!
                                        Stickers ~ 1985-2011 ~ Cody's BFF
                                        I miss you both very much!

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                                        • #60
                                          Originally posted by Boomer View Post
                                          Wow. For me just the opposite. Winter is MUCH easier. I actually have days off. All the equipment has been preped for winter and is sitting in it's location until spring (for the most part).

                                          I use winter to piddle with inside the house/barn repairs that got put aside during the other months.

                                          There's no mowing/weedwacking/spraying, which takes phenomenal amount of time starting in April and lasting to Mid-October.

                                          I didn't look to see where you are - maybe up north? I bet winter is a drag, used to live up there.
                                          Hmmm...well, as someone who is so not a morning person (haha...picked the wrong passion considering that ), I love the fact that summer means I only need to bring in from turnout and feed in the morning; then I can ride/putter outside when I get home from work (which is impossible during the winter months).

                                          Hubby finally taught me how to drive our big mower with the 72" deck and, for example, last night we were able to get everything mowed and weedwhacked within a couple of hours. Leaves the rest of the week free for other projects.

                                          I do love the fact that winter is our down time. It is nice to come home from work and just bring in and feed and then chill out in the house, and maybe work on some inside projects (I'm working on stripping wallpaper and painting walls in our old farmhouse).

                                          You're right--all the equipment is stored in the big barn; the only tractor that gets used is the '48 John Deere B, which pulls the manure spreaders. No paddock picking because the ground is frozen or snow-covered. Only outside chores besides horse care are plowing snow and bringing in firewood.

                                          I'm in SE Pennsylvania; I don't mind the winters at all. We probably only get a week or two of really cold temps (single digits); the rest of the time is hovers in the 20 to 40 degree range. I really don't agonize over temps--for me, they fall into 2 ranges--cold and really damn cold. Really damn cold is when you walk outside and your snot freezes in your nose.

                                          Mornings are a drag though...alarm goes off and I'm snuggled in flannel sheets thinking how cold it is going to be getting out of bed. And wishing I'd been more motivated to get up at 3 am and put more wood in the furnace (we have a multifuel furnace that burns wood and oil). Getting dresssed in multiple layers is coldly painful, but that's the worst part. Once I'm outside feeding those hungry faces, I have no regrets about living on the farm.

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