• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

smart pack rat

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • smart pack rat

    We have, living in our tack room, a highly intelligent pack rat. (maybe 2!) We set up a live trap for him and he is eating the apples, cheese, and peanut butter and leaving the trap completely intact. In other words, it looks as if the little guy is outsmarting us. As much as I hate the idea of killing him (I've seen him and he's pretty cute) we cannot have him eating our saddles and such. Has anyone had experiences with this type of rat?

  • #2
    do you have a barn cat? Perhaps borrow a feline friend for a few days... that usually does the trick

    Comment


    • #3
      LOL I read this and thought "ewwww, a dead rat in the Smart Pak drawer"

      My blog: Change of Pace - Retraining a standardbred via dressage

      Comment


      • #4
        I had a rat in my feed room at the race track. I never saw him but knew he was in there somewhere due to the size of the droppings he was leaving all over the place. A couple weeks go by without any droppings lying around, so I figured he had moved on. It wasn't until I saw the litter box that was in the corner from when my cat was caring for her kittens that I realized he was still there, he had just gotten tidier!
        McDowell Racing Stables

        Home Away From Home

        Comment


        • #5
          Having tried live traps, and "dead" traps with no success, I finally gave up and put out Decon. It took a day or two but it finally did the trick. Now I keep a steady supply, I think I'm feeding the neighborhood. As soon as there's a week's worth of quiet, someone else moves in.

          I may try the electronic.
          Some riders change their horse, they change their saddle, they change their teacher; they never change themselves.

          Remember the horse does all the work, we just sit there and look pretty.

          Comment


          • #6
            Rats are very smart. Get a LOT of traps--far more than you think you need--and bait them with something tasty for a week or so without setting them. Then set them all, and you should catch all or nearly all. They need time to lose their waryness about the traps.

            Once they snap, if you haven't caught them all, you will need to go back to baiting without setting.

            Comment


            • #7
              I did the same thing... thinking of the little rat opening up each individual smart pak serving


              I would also try the electronic zapper...though if you have more than 2 or 3, they learn quickly! But you may have to bait it without turning it on at first. Also.. try a plastic owl!! seriously!!! Totally worked at my barn!! I didn't want rat poison out, becuase... I've seen what it does to dogs and cats and it ain't pretty... nor is it cheap! But Mr. Hoots does a good job. The first week I moved him around a good bit and even my smart rats decided to leave.

              But.. if you do go for rat poison.... make sure it's the anticoagulant type... we can atleast treat that type..(caught early enough) the other type cause brain swelling and is really really hard to treat if they get a lethal dose!

              Comment


              • #8
                I've had some (moderate) success with those "pest repellers" (the electronic devices). Ofcourse, there are cats around too (a few ferals), but really, most of it is the repeller.. it keeps them away. the cats get the few that still come. (On a plus side.. the thing also repels bats. Haven't had any bats in the barn in a year!!! which is good bc I can deal with just about anything.. except bats, they scare the beejeezies out of me. And I ofcourse have a neighbor who actually has nesting boxes for them , away from her house, on the property line.. so we have hundreds. I am okay with them outside, but it freaks me out when they come inside).
                "Sadly, some people's greatest skill, is being an idiot". (facebook profile pic I saw).

                Comment


                • #9
                  We had one in my feed room...

                  ... which is where my barn cat also lives!
                  He was hoarding the cat food and stashing it everywhere you could think of: in ski boots, corners, boxes. He had also shredded some items to make himself a nice cozy nest.
                  We bought a rat trap (giant mouse trap), and he set it off and got the prize.

                  So we screwed the trap to the shelving and BINGO, bye-bye Mr. Rat!
                  "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by merrygoround View Post
                    Having tried live traps, and "dead" traps with no success, I finally gave up and put out Decon.
                    I would NOT try Decon anywhere near your barn. We did, and we put it where the horses could not get to it and we ended up with a horse that ingested Decon anyway (we think the cat dragged the box out of the hay loft and into the barn -- far fetched, but we found the box in a stall). Horse was put on Vit K (injections and oral solution) and it ran us over $1000, but thank goodness he's fine.

                    I'll stick with my barn cat, traps and zappers. NO MORE POISON!!!
                    If you cannot set a good example, at least serve as a terrible warning....

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Maybe you could borrow a terrier, like a Jack Russell, or a rat terrier. I'd also suggest a snake, but I don't think you can buy or rent a blacksnake anywhere!
                      I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        If it is a true Pack Rat, I think they are actually a member of the squirrel family rather than a true rat. Is he a kinda pretty brown with big eyes and a moderately bushy tail? We have been able to catch them with live catch traps but they are really smart. I have the kind of trap that has a rod from the trip plate to a loopy thingy that holds the part that lets the door slam. I had to just barely start the rod into the loopy thingy so it didn't take much to trip the trap and then I got the little fella. That and I think I used peaches, peanut butter and probably cat food too as bait. I relocated him to a more suitable location.
                        Patty
                        www.rivervalefarm.com
                        Follow us on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/pages/River...ref=ts&fref=ts

                        Comment

                        Working...
                        X