• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

I have an agressive farm dog plus typical JR's. Anyone used Bark Busters Dog Training

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • I have an agressive farm dog plus typical JR's. Anyone used Bark Busters Dog Training

    I'm thinking about using Bark Busters Dog Training service. I have 2 typical JR's who are best friends sometimes & then turn on each other. But they're not the problem. I rescued a bulldog/boxer type earlier this year. Sweet dog to people but she doesn't get along with another female dog, my 6 yr old Catahoola (I know I spelled that wrong) cattle dog (another rescue). They've had some absolutely terrible fights in the past & it's getting worse. Bulldog even grabbed one of my JR's yesterday. No telling what I'd have done to her if she hadn't turned my JR loose. Luckily I was standing right there & jumped into the fight & (hate to say it) but choked the bulldog until she turned my JR loose. In my eyes she's committed the cardinal sin by grabbing the JR. My JR's are my babies. She's such a cool dog other times though. Loves people but it's time for her to go. Friends & family say to euthanize her due to her agressive tendencies but I feel that I need to try to train her.
    Anyway, how about Bark Busters? Anyone?
    Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!
    www.whitfieldfarm.shutterfly.com

  • #2
    A friend of mine used a shock collar for the aggressive dog in her family when she brought home a puppy. It only took a couple times she had to use it and now she has absolutely no problems with the aggressive dog. The dog now accepts the puppy and any other dogs that come to the house. It made me a believer that these things can work for the good of the dog. Good luck. I hope this helps. If you are worried about using a shock collar then I would suggest looking at getting a professional dog trainer that works with aggression issues to help you too.

    Comment


    • #3
      Sounds like you have pack problems. I had a JRT and they can be tough. They push their dominance on others and a lot of the times, the other dogs do not welcome a tiny little dog pushing them around. I know first hand. I had a JRT and a Great Dane. The JRT was completely the leader. Luckily, the GD was VERY submissive and did not mind having his whole life ruled by his little friend.

      I think you can try the dog training route as mentioned, but you may not be able to make them all get along. Some never do get over it, if they can't establish a pecking order. You may need to remove one of them from the situation. I am assuming that would be the boxer mix. I would try bark busters first. Just because she has a personality conflict with a JRT, I would not just label her aggressive. She may just need to be in a home as an only dog or with a more submissive partner.

      Comment

      • Original Poster

        #4
        Yeah it's not really the JR that she's normally agressive with, it's the bigger cow dog. One day I know they'll fight to the death & the fact that my male chow got in on the fight 2 days ago was very suprising as he's normally so calm. Boxer/bulldog is getting worse overall. More frequent fighting, taking a "pushy" stance towards other dogs, etc. I wish I could find her another home as she loves people.
        Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!
        www.whitfieldfarm.shutterfly.com

        Comment


        • #5
          Yeah. My mom has 6 hounds at once (3 PBGV's/ 2 Bassets and a Bloodhound). Only one is a female and boy can she be a giant pain in the rear. She is very much the boss of them all. The females can be very difficult, if they feel like someone is not respecting their authority. She may just not be able to cope in such an active household. If she is really good with people, then you may have to rehome her as good with people, no other dogs. Good luck.

          Comment


          • #6
            A friend of mine used Bark Busters for her dogs a few years ago, and she thought it helped quite a bit. The guy came to her house and spent a long time working with the dogs and showing her how to use the training methods herself. Her dogs were not aggressive, though.

            That being said, it sounds like your dogs may not be a good fit together. It might be better to find the one dog a new home that suits her better, rather than have a tragedy one day when your back is turned.

            Comment


            • #7
              Originally posted by MHM View Post
              A friend of mine used Bark Busters for her dogs a few years ago, and she thought it helped quite a bit. The guy came to her house and spent a long time working with the dogs and showing her how to use the training methods herself. Her dogs were not aggressive, though.

              That being said, it sounds like your dogs may not be a good fit together. It might be better to find the one dog a new home that suits her better, rather than have a tragedy one day when your back is turned.
              We used Bark Busters. We had them out to help with a barking issue -- not an aggression issue. He spent a nice amount of time with us and the dogs and gave us some tools to work with (water spray bottles and bags with chains in them for throwing). Worked great. But again, I didn't have any aggression issues -- our dogs even eat from the same bowl with no issues.
              If you cannot set a good example, at least serve as a terrible warning....

              Comment


              • #8
                Why bother?? In less than a year the rescue bulldog mix has attacked one of your Jacks and the fights between her and your cattle dog are getting worse. Move the rescue dog out- a new home where she lives with no other dogs or to a humane passing.

                Comment


                • #9
                  We had a very dominant toy poodle and all other dogs would never even think of lifting an eyebrow to her, so there was always peace.
                  At that time we had, all females, a saint bernard, rottie, dobie, norwegian elkhound, a very old aussie, two more small poodles and never had a fight, but all gave that little terror a wide berth, even when she was the youngest of them.

                  A very dominant dog is only a problem if the other dogs won't defer completely to her.
                  I would guess your two females are not quite sure who needs to back off and that is trouble brewing.

                  Remember, if they really don't like each other, why make them live together?
                  Be it dogs, horses or people, when there is that kind of serious friction, it is better for all to have one gone from the mix.

                  Only you know how serious they are, but their problems, for what you say, seem serious enough to be dangerous.

                  Comment

                  • Original Poster

                    #10
                    I've got several calls out to people who hopefully can help me place the bulldog. I'm sick about having to give her away but if she grabbed one of my JR's again she could easily kill it & then I'd be REALLY sick. The cow dog can handle herself but my home is my place of peace where I escape from the rest of the world. I certainly don't want to continue to deal with this issue.
                    Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!
                    www.whitfieldfarm.shutterfly.com

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Honestly, I think you're making a wise choice.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by MHM View Post
                        Honestly, I think you're making a wise choice.

                        I agree, and this is the very reason that when folks want to give me another cat or dog, I tell them NO. I have peace in my home and I'm not going to disturb that by bringing in another animal, not right now.

                        Comment

                        • Original Poster

                          #13
                          I know. This is what I get for rescuing ever stray that I see. It will kill me to give her away but don't know what else to do. Of course I might not be able to find a place for her. I guess I'll just have to wait & see what happens. I still think she'll be a great dog in another household that has no other dogs & she absolutely loves the horses. Sits with them all day.
                          Producing horses with gentle minds & brilliant movement!
                          www.whitfieldfarm.shutterfly.com

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Place the bulldog. She will be happier, you will be happier and your other dogs will be happier.

                            If things are getting worse they are going in the wrong direction and when it comes to bitch fights, the girls mean it. I would NOT do that to the dogs or myself.

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X