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  • Seeking feedback on the proposed layout of my farmette-- advice please!

    Please give me any feedback you can think of on the proposed layout of my farmette.

    The property used to be a farmette but is not currently being used that way. All the fencing is gone. There is a masonry block barn and a 3-sided shed. The dimensions of the barn do not work for stalls. The barn has cold water and electric with lights on the front and back. The 3-sided shed is too short and has nails coming through the room and therefore would not be suitable as a run-in shed.

    I have limited funds and I am trying to be practical while laying out the farmette (i.e. minimize the amount of fencing, don’t run the water line a far distance, etc.)

    Here is my planned layout…
    http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...utupload-1.png

    I own 4 horses. I anticipate that the property will have between 3-5 geldings on it most of the time who are used to one another and used to living in herds about that size. The farmette is in South Jersey.

    Most of the time the horses will come in to eat and then go right back out. They will only be locked in the stalls during the winter/bad weather. Most of the time, they will be out unless there’s a specific reason.

    The total acreage of the property is 6 acres. I would estimate that the house, backyard, etc. sit on one full acre.

    In terms of housing for the horses, I plan on putting a 5-stall shedrow barn down with 5 12x12 stalls in a line. It will be put on a flattened pad of gravel/stonedust with mats in the stalls. The stalls would have dutch doors in/out so they can be opened fully or only half opened to let the horses put their heads out. The 5 little boxes represents where I plan to locate the shedrow. The stalls would face out into the paddock. That way, the horses could come/go into their stalls for shelter was needed. My boyfriend who is less horsey will sometimes have to feed. This way, the horses can never “escape” because even if they get out of their stalls, they’re just in the paddock. The shedrow would form the back and one side of the paddock.

    The tan line (mainly) represents fencing. I am planning to fence most of the back of the property into one paddock (roughly 100x 300). There will be a gate leading out of the paddock on the side near the barn and water supply.

    Attached to the paddock will be the pasture, roughly 3 acres in size. This will be one big rectangle with no separation. It will be accessible through a gate leading out towards the barn and by a gate on the fencline it shares with the paddock. On most days, I will leave the fence between the pasture and the paddock open so the horses have free run of both areas and their stalls. When introducing a new horse or separating a horse, I will close the gate so the new horse can be in the paddock and they can acclimate over the fence.

    A “down the line” project will be the addition of a run-in shed in the pasture.
    I plan on locating the fence about one “tractor width” inside the property line and away from the road. That way I can mow around the edge of the pasture and also ride around the perimeter. Open to suggestion as to whether this is a waste of space and I should go right to the edge. On one side my neighbor has nice 3 board wood (I plan on using 3 board wood slip board fence) on the other, it’s saggy wire of some type.

    The blue dot represents what will be a dual headed water hydrant run from the barn, underground, to the edge of the pasture. It should accommodate a water trough in both the paddock and the pasture, near their shared fenceline as well as a hose that reaches to the stalls to put water in the buckets in the stalls.
    I anticipate, for bathing, I will have to put 2 stakes down outside near the barn and pull the hose out from there as a sort of makeshift “wash stall.” If I can afford to, I will put down a small pad of gravel with a matt on top. That might be a “later down the road? Project.

    The brown solid square will be a manure pile. I also plan to haul manure in a dump trailer to a local landscaper/farmer. The gates will be wide enough to drive the dump trailer into the pasture so I can pick manure right onto it. I also plan to get/make a ramp so that when I pick stalls with a wheelbarrow, I can wheel it onto the dump trailer. 90% of the manure will leave the property, I will only keep a small pile for fertilization or to dump on at times when I cannot take manure to the landscaper.

    The tractor will be parked in the 3 sided shed. I will also keep shavings in there along with pitchforks, wheelbarrows, etc. That is a fairly easy walk from the shed to the shedrow and to the gates to the paddock and pasture.

    The barn is 28x30 with 2 stories. The first floor used to have stalls but the wood rotted and they’re gone. The aisle is 8 foot wide with garage doors on either side and one normal door in. I plan to leave the aisle clear and use it as cross ties for grooming, standing for the farrier, tacking, etc. That leaves a 10x30 space on each side. On one side, I plan to divide the area into thirds.

    Eventually I’d actually partition them, but that again would be “down the line.” One third of this side would be a “feed room.” This would be the portion that has the hydrant in it already. Someone built a sort of work counter along the wall with a row of shelving. Feed would go in bins/garbage cans under the counter with meds and other supplies on the shelves and counter.

    The next area on that side would be the “tack room” and the third (which is where the people door is) would have blankets and other longer-term storage. All along the back wall of this area are hooks. There is also a floor to ceiling set of shelves on the 10 foot wall next to the people door. My eventual plan would be to drill through the concrete floor in the middle 3rd, put up partitions, and turn this middle section into a wash stall. VERY long term plan.

    On the other sise of the aisle, there is a matching 10x30 space. This area has the stairs to the loft and behind the stairs is a wood stove (why, I have no idea?) so the useable floorspace is probably more like 10x25. At least to start, I plan to use this entirely for square hay bales stacked on top of pallets and to store a car that can be used to bring hay from the barn to the pasture/paddock. I plan to store additional hay up in the loft. There is a door on the front and back of the loft to throw hay up/down. There is no dropdown door from the loft to the barn but eventually I’d add one.

    In terms of an area to ride, there is a flat grassy area in front of the barn that is roughly 130 feet by 160 feet. In the beginning, I’d either just ride in the open or mark out the area with small stakes/chains or dressage borders. Eventually, I’d like to fence it so it could also double as a makeshift paddock. Eventually I’d also like to bring electric from the barn to the ring and have a light or two on a post so I can ride at night. Eventually eventually… maybe footing. But that’s a long term thing.

    Another long term addition would be a gravel or asphalt driveway directly to the barn with a bit of extra space at the end as a turn around and to park the trailer. Also long term.

    Short term plans are the shedrow, fencing paddock/pasture, and water. Next on the list would be fence riding area and add lights. Next would be driveway to barn. Last would be wash stall inside barn.

    Does this plan/layout seem feasible? Any giant glaring errors that I am missing? Ways to save money by re-designing things? Better layout that you see? Advice? Should I add another gate to the paddock that’s close to the back of the house, so I don’t have to walk out of the house and all the way around to the side near the barn to get into the paddock? Is my idea of a margin around the pasture/paddock a good idea or a waste of space. I also forgot to add in the drawing but do realize I need a gate into the riding area. Any thoughts appreciated.
    ~Veronica
    "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
    http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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    If I were you I would spring for an extra 10' overhang on the shedrow now and keep the stall doors closed when they are out so you don't get horses cornering each other and kicked in the stalls. You won't regret it. I have seen serious injuries with several horses, even horses that know each other long term, getting in a stall and having a disagreement. They can get cornered so easily and it only takes one second, one stupid kick. One big vet bill will pay for the overhang. Okay, maybe two vet bills, but still -- my horses are so accident prone I could never let them in stalls together, they'd implode. And they all get along fine ostensibly, for years -- until one day they don't and there's blood everywhere.

    I would also eventually plan to split your big field into 2 or even 3, so you can rotate at least a little. It will really help your grass if you can rest it a little.

    Finally, I would not put your gate to the big field out there in the middle, I'd put it close by. Why walk far when you don't have to? However, I would keep the one in your plan, so when you add cross-fencing you'll have a gate there. So add another gate near the blue dot between your small paddock and big field. Make sense? Otherwise, I think it is a pretty workable plan.

    And CONGRATS!!! Farm ownership is so great.

    ETA: How far is the barn from the shed? If you need a car for transport it might be too far. I would consider putting some storage space at your shedrow. Enough at least for hay for a few days/a week. Even a Rubbermaid shed? Trucking hay is going to be a challenge in snow and honestly, as a working lawyer, a challenge when you are super busy at work. I like to set things up so on my busy lawyer days I can get chores done in 10-15 minutes. Once a day if you have easy enough keepers (I feed free choice hay so this works for me). I save up big activities (moving hay, stuffing nets, mucking, scrubbing) for days when I have more time. On any given day, I *can* be in and out of the barn super-fast and no one's care is compromised in the least. I just need to make sure that at some point during the week(end) I make time for bigger chunks of barn work.

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      #3
      Car=cart for hay. My bad. The cars will be parked in the garage which is attached to the house. I don't plan on driving from the barn to the pasture to throw hay Hay CART in the barn.

      Everyone says that about overhangs. I just don't know if I can afford it. I priced it. If I can scrimp somewhere, I will do that. I hope I can add the overhangs. I think it would be nice for shelter and also to stop rain/snow from getting into the stalls.

      I would like the eventially divide up the pasture, but that's a loooooooooooong term goal. Good idea re: 2 gates.

      The barn is about maybe 40 feet from the shed. In the drawing (and it's hard to see) the shedrows back onto where the shed is. It's a little gray blobby. And the barn is a little easier to see, I think you can see the barn. I estimate maybe 40 feet between then? Not a bad walk, even in the snow.

      I love the idea of just being able to throw hay into the pasture and open doors on days when I have to be quick.
      ~Veronica
      "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
      http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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      • #4
        OK -- so more thoughts. I would consider putting up the shell of the barn/shedrow with overhang the first year. Then I would feed using nosebags/tie/pans/for a year until you get in a position to finish the stalls. It will be hard to add the overhang later, but it will be easy to finish the inside of the shedrow when the cashflow permits.

        Funny about the car(t). I kept looking at the picture thinking nothing looked that far from anything else, but I wasn't sure which one was the barn so I thought, "well, maybe...."
        Last edited by fordtraktor; Oct. 9, 2013, 03:39 PM.

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        • #5
          One more thought -- temporarily -- you could use panels to section off "stalls" in the shedrow for feeding individually. Cheap, BF-friendly solution that would let you put horses in with food, run in to shower and put on work clothes and Muck Boots, run back out to turnout, take off Muck Boots/put on nice shoes and jump in car and run to work if you are anything like me. Then you can finish it when the $$ works.

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          • #6
            Sorry, last post -- have you priced adding on extra feet to your shedrow? Not finishing the 5th stall and adding a 6th, maybe, and using those as a 12 by 24 run-in? That might be a viable less expensive day shelter option than an overhang the whole length.

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            • #7
              I have to agree with the overhang on the shedrow now.

              Since you will be carrying feed from another barn and into the stalls I think you are going to find it very frustrating to have to carry it into the area with the horses to get to their individual stalls/feeding areas while they are loose in the paddock. Is it at all feasible to make your barn slight wider so you can have a man door and a narrow hall (human width, not horse width) that you can enter from outside the paddock/pasture?

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                #8
                Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                Sorry, last post -- have you priced adding on extra feet to your shedrow? Not finishing the 5th stall and adding a 6th, maybe, and using those as a 12 by 24 run-in? That might be a viable less expensive day shelter option than an overhang the whole length.
                Great idea. I don't even need 5 stalls to start! I hadn't thought of that.
                ~Veronica
                "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                  I have to agree with the overhang on the shedrow now.

                  Since you will be carrying feed from another barn and into the stalls I think you are going to find it very frustrating to have to carry it into the area with the horses to get to their individual stalls/feeding areas while they are loose in the paddock. Is it at all feasible to make your barn slight wider so you can have a man door and a narrow hall (human width, not horse width) that you can enter from outside the paddock/pasture?
                  My thought is to do chores as follows. Make breakfast the night before and put it in the cart with hay. In the morning, wheel the cart up to the gate. Leave cart outside. Go into the paddock. Escort everyone into stalls and shut the doors. THEN bring cart into paddock. Dump feed into feed tubs. While they're eating, put out hay. Come back, let horses back out and leave with hay cart.

                  I horse sit for someone now and she has a similar (slightly more complex) setup and it works nicely. She has 2 of my horses, actually, and they know the drill. They go right into their stalls automaticall for breakfast, each knows whose is whose.
                  ~Veronica
                  "The Son Dee Times" "Sustained" "Somerset" "Franklin Square"
                  http://photobucket.com/albums/y192/vxf111/

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                  • #10
                    Have you thought about moving the stalls to the short side of that paddock? I personally would do that, and have doors on both sides of the stalls, so that you can feed or water in the stalls without going into the turnout. It also makes your walk a bit shorter, which saves time - walking hay, dragging a hose, etc. And trust me, time is important!

                    I'd definitely recommend an overhang, or at least some form of shelter for the horses in case you can't get home during crummy weather. Or you can at least always turn out in questionable weather without worrying.

                    The other thing I'll mention is individual runouts. Your set-up may work great for your current horses, but what about in the future? I just finished a barn at my house (horses moved in 10 days ago), and I have 3 stalls with individual attached run-outs that open onto the larger grass pastures. This gives me a sacrifice area, peace of mind during bad weather, and flexibility in the horses that live here. Granted, the horses at my house are ones that DON'T want to be out with others all the time - I've got an older mare who greatly prefers to be left alone, and a big warmblood who loves to pick on everyone else, and another gelding who is mostly ambivalent. The individual runs give the horses the option to socialize or be left alone. I trucked in sand for the run-outs, after taking out the topsoil to relocate it to the pasture area, and now I have mud-free turnouts for 100% of the time, so I have much happier horses who can be in or out whenever they want.

                    I also made the grass turnouts individual that are connected to the run-outs. This way, I just open the gates to give the horses access to the grass, and still don't have to worry about conflict, them being trapped outside in bad weather, etc.

                    Back to your specific set-up. I'd recommend putting the water as close to where you'll need it as possible. What are your most common sources of water for the horses? The buckets in their stalls or the tubs in turnouts? Both? Whichever you plan to use, or may plan to use in the future, put the water CLOSE. Maybe even so close to the tubs so that you can have a short hose in there permanently so you just have to turn on the water and walk away.

                    What are you doing for fencing? I did no-climb, but ONLY because we breed Golden Retrievers and while our adults could learn to leave the horses alone, the thing that would push me over the edge would be to see a puppy be in trouble, or worse... so I HAD to do the no-climb, for my own piece of mind. Our property is set up in such a way that the horses are around the house, not very far away. Otherwise, I would have done t-posts and electric tape. The horses respect it, it's inexpensive, and it's easy! I wish I could've done it! I even thought about using it in spots, but it would've been silly for my set-up.

                    Just keep thinking about it. I changed so many set-up things as I thought about how I'd use it. Mostly little things, but some bigger. Luckily, I had the winter to mull it over (started planning last November, didn't break ground until May). I, like you, have non-horsey helpers, so my set-up allows my parents to feed - they just have to throw it in the stalls. No worry about handling horses, or even going into the stalls. Or even opening doors! My horses live with stall guards (and then the openings to the barn are also roped 24/7 as a safeguard, but I got home last night to find that my boyfriend had left two horses stall guards down and neither set foot out of their stalls, which I suspected, having known these horses for 7 years prior).

                    There are other threads on here about people's own farms, and I got a lot of ideas from those, so I'd recommend reading through what people have chosen to do and why, it may bring up ideas/issues you haven't thought of, or even just cool tips you really like and want to do with your own barn, even just little things.

                    Good luck! And ENJOY!! I'm loving mine!
                    Last edited by Nestor; Oct. 9, 2013, 04:58 PM. Reason: typos

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                    • #11
                      I would definitely divide up your big pasture so you can rotate. It doesn't have to be a lot of money. My horses have a healthy respect for hot tape, so you can do it with step-in posts and a single strand of tape. It really will save your pasture.

                      Lots of other great suggestions on here that I won't repeat!

                      You stole my idea, hahahha! I am drawing up mine as well and posting for thoughts, but I'm always so tired, haven't done it yet!
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                      • #12
                        I fully agree with the overhang being a priority. My boss horse seems peaceful, but in reality is quite opportunistic. Given the chance, he will quickly run into a stall and beat the hell out of an unfortunate herdmate, just because he can. Needless to say, I do not give him the opportunity to do so. I would not have known this about him prior to living with him at home.

                        I would also split your large field into two or three paddocks. Even with only three to five horses, you will need to rest your field. You might find two large paddocks and one smaller one quite useful. Fencing may be less expensive than you think when it comes to splitting a field: once you know the area a little, you will likely be able to find a local jack-of-all-trades type to do this, rather than using a big fencing company. Huge price difference there.

                        I would also emphasize setting yourself up for convenience. You will grow to resent any extra walking you have to do to fetch tools, feed, bedding, hay, etc. Truly. Especially in inclement weather. And especially if you have five living there (I find five to be much more work than three. BTDT, currently wearing the t-shirt.)

                        Last, if you can swing hot water where you will be setting up feed and at your wash rack, you will be very glad to have it. As an aside, I don't currently have a wash stall and I rarely feel the need for one. I have hot water to my outdoor wash rack and find it to be perfectly sufficient. That said, all of mine have been show horses and stand well for bathing.

                        Have fun planning, but know that your plans will change quite a bit once you've been living there for a while. The first 6+ months are the hardest. Once you have a good set-up and routine, it gets easier.

                        Oh, and I like having room to ride my fencelines. If leaving several feet along your fenceline will give you the opportunity for on-farm trail rides, I'd do that.

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                        • #13
                          Definitely leave the tractor space around the fenceline. We have done that at the last two barns and having a laneway to ride is wonderful. It also keeps your horses off the neighbors fences. And was easier to do than replacing the barbed wire that was the perimeter fence for one of the properties.

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                          • #14
                            I'm also going to throw a vote in for the overhang and keeping the stall doors closed. Our overhang isn't big enough to keep the dutch doors closed and we've had to replace 3 stall doors this year thanks to some moody mares and then frisky babies. >.< Poor barn. No one was hurt, but doors are expensive!!!!!!

                            You're also going to want to be able to access the stalls from outside of the paddock like everyone has said. It's a time thing. Plus it'll be much easier to establish a routine with the horses if you have them all "out" of the stalls and put the hay in, and then let them in one at a time (and it'll be a lot easier to put the hay in from outside of the pasture). They'll want to go in to get the hay. No muss no fuss.

                            Oh and the closer your shed row is to the water, the better. I'd definitely agree with that.

                            You also want to make sure you can rotate pastures (and fertilize with composted manure and reseed) or they will destroy the grass. I would consider the paddock that their shed row is in the "sacrifice paddock" and then rotate between the grass pastures as necessary or pull them off as needed.

                            So if you've got to have a shell of a barn with round pen type panelling to stall the horses for a while so you can get your overhang, outside access, and fence to split the pastures... do it. You'll be happier in the long run with how it works out (and how you still have great grass 5 years down the road, and no busted doors).

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by fordtraktor View Post
                              If I were you I would spring for an extra 10' overhang on the shedrow now and keep the stall doors closed when they are out so you don't get horses cornering each other and kicked in the stalls. You won't regret it. I have seen serious injuries with several horses, even horses that know each other long term, getting in a stall and having a disagreement. They can get cornered so easily and it only takes one second, one stupid kick. One big vet bill will pay for the overhang. Okay, maybe two vet bills, but still -- my horses are so accident prone I could never let them in stalls together, they'd implode. And they all get along fine ostensibly, for years -- until one day they don't and there's blood everywhere.

                              I would also eventually plan to split your big field into 2 or even 3, so you can rotate at least a little. It will really help your grass if you can rest it a little.

                              Finally, I would not put your gate to the big field out there in the middle, I'd put it close by. Why walk far when you don't have to? However, I would keep the one in your plan, so when you add cross-fencing you'll have a gate there. So add another gate near the blue dot between your small paddock and big field. Make sense? Otherwise, I think it is a pretty workable plan.

                              These were the three exact things I was going to mention!

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                              • #16
                                I do think having a lane away around the outside of your pasture is the best way to go. It gives you somewhere to ride plus easy access to your whole fence with out having to go thru our pasture.

                                Another reason to have access to your stalls from outside the paddock is cleaning. Cleaning with out horse help is much easier and quicker than it is with horse help.

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                                • #17
                                  I really do think having Dutch doors to the outside as well is a great add but it does add a lot of expense. Doors cost a lot. One other benefit is that when cleaning stalls, you don't have to take the wheelbarrow/whatever in the field to clean. This is particularly nice because the area in front of the stalls often gets mucky/deep in bad weather, making it hard to push a wheelbarrow. If you have access on the front, it is almost always easy to keep that ground great. Also, it is nice if you have non horse people cleaning for you sometimes, because you don't risk the pushy horse escaping when the person is coming in and out the gate with the wheelbarrow. They can clean stalls/do stuff with horses in the paddock and not risk an escape. My DH is great but he is not the best with keeping the horses away and a pushy horse might get past him if he had to do that.

                                  That is definitely something that can be added later, though. Tell your builder you are considering adding it later so he can take that into consideration when putting in support posts/placements.

                                  I do like having a lane around my farm. I don't ride in it at all but I live next to a subdivision on one side, so I have a lane of big trees about 20 feet deep, with a tractor-width lane of grass by the fence. That provides me with a good deal of privacy and makes my farm feel much more rural than it is. The other side is a working soybean and corn farm, and I keep a tree barrier there too just in case it ever gets sold and turned into a subdivision!

                                  FWIW, my horses are stupid to ride when the others are out and inevitably start running around like lunatics, so I end up locking everyone up when I ride. They were never like that in big boarding situations, but the small herd situation leads them to do silly things they otherwise wouldn't. So I "trail ride" in my pastures as they never have other horses in them while I'm riding. The youngsters, anyway -- my old retiree is the boss and doesn't care if the herd gets stirred up while I hack him in the ring. Be a little careful when you move them home -- the dynamics will change them a little so you might get a few surprises from horses you've known a long time. Four is a good number for warding off too much herdbound stuff, though. Two can cause all sorts of strife, three is OK unless you take 2 places often and one gets left, four has always been comfortable for me because no one gets left alone.

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                                    #18
                                    This is all fabulous advice which I appreciate. $$$ is a bit of a factor in everything. I am compressing all the info and revisiting my plan and will port my revisions once I've had a chance to really price things out. Keep it coming.

                                    Man, am I excited. All I ever wanted in life is to wake up and see my pony out my window. He's my first pony and I've kept him all these years. He's 26 now and he's the light of my life. It's too much to hope that he'd be my (as of yet not existant) kids' first pony-- but to have him at home! That's what I really want. The other horses are just coming home cuz it's cheaper but he deserves to be king of a farmette for a while.
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                                    • #19
                                      Sorry to keep peppering your thread -- one thing I think you are overestimating the importance of is a wash rack. I have never had one in a barn and it's fine. On my current place I have a concrete slab and a hitching rack, though I don't tie to it -- it is nice to have a place to loop a lead rope over when you are hosing the back end. At my last place I just had some pea gravel and a hose. It was just fine for my needs (and I have cold weather too and hose off after most rides all summer). Sink two posts 10 feet apart, attach a 4 by 4 to them with bolts, and dump some gravel near your water source on a spot that is going to have good drainage and spend that money elsewhere!

                                      Also -- make sure your shedrow is facing in the lee of the wind so snow/rain/wind isn't blowing in your stalls. Facing south or southeast is usually best in most places. This makes a huge difference in how protective your shelter is and how high your costs are, believe it or not. If rain is blowing in your stall doors it can ruin a hundred dollars of bedding in one storm.

                                      Grading is SO important. Go out during the biggest rains this fall and see what the ground is doing/where the rainwater is flowing. You might change everything depending on where the rivulets are flowing and where the puddles are forming.

                                      Build up around the shedrow and make sure water isn't going to run into your stalls.

                                      Are you going to run electricity to your shedrow?

                                      One thing well worth the investment is an auto waterer. I have an energy-free auto waterer like this: http://www.miraco.com/MiraFount3330.aspx (It does not really need 15 animals, my 3-4 horses keep it OK 99% of the time in colder weather than yours, I just watch it, particularly if we are below zero for a few days).

                                      It is absolutely wonderful as a time-saver, and nice as the water never gets hot in the summer. It does not require electricity run to the pasture though it does need installed on a concrete pad. It also cuts down on mud because there is no constant dumping around the trough. Maybe something to put on the wish list and plan for in the groundwork now.

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                                      • #20
                                        I agree with lots of ideas already posted. I definitely agree with the overhang. I wish wish wish I had a shedrow barn like you're describing with an overhang. Though fordtraktor's 5/6th-unused stall idea is brilliant as well.

                                        The ideas about having hay storage close to where you're going to feed are very good ones. I store my giant stack close (within 50') of my feed room, and every week or two move bales from the giant stack to the feed room and even that activity is time consuming and a PITA. If I had to move them across my farm I would dread it even more than I already do.

                                        Originally posted by wildlifer View Post
                                        I would definitely divide up your big pasture so you can rotate. It doesn't have to be a lot of money. My horses have a healthy respect for hot tape, so you can do it with step-in posts and a single strand of tape. It really will save your pasture.
                                        This can still be expensive, as the chargers themselves can be several hundred dollars. And I don't think it's entirely necessary right now. I haven't separated my pasture for rotation and it's still good a year later. While you should eventually plan to do so eventually, if the OP is tight for money, this is one thing I'd wait to do for sure. But definitely plan and install gates accordingly!

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