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    We're about to get new fencing put in and add some new pastures. No automatic waterers, so we have a 70 gal rubbermaid tub in each pasture.

    It would take several hoses (and lots of dragging and watching and waiting) to run out to each tub, so I'm thinking it would be best to transport a tub of water down and fill them.

    What's the best way (automatic waterers excluded) to carry down the water?

    I ran the numbers and to mostly fill a tub it's 500# worth of water each.

    Have use of pickup truck and 45hp tractor with 1500# loader.

    David
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    #2
    Anyone ever build a skid for the tub and move the entire tub around with the tractor / pallet forks?

    David

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DHCarrotfeeder View Post
      Anyone ever build a skid for the tub and move the entire tub around with the tractor / pallet forks?

      David
      This sounds like it works well but I ended up having to do it every other day for close to a year and half the time you end up sloshing water out along the way. Then having to fend off horses to get in and out of the pasture.

      I would suggest a small water tank on back on a pick up. Use hose to fill up tank, then short hose into tank. in pasture. The water tank on pick up can be even a big blue barrel ( 44 gallons?) which make them quick and easy to fill.

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      • #4
        The smaller barrels can be tipped (poured) from a tailgate into a trough- so it saves you time on waiting to fill the tank. You just need to be able to put lids on them so you don't lose half your water on the way to the field.

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        • #5
          Smaller (500 gallons or less) water tank in the back of the truck. Add required fittings - gate valve and larger diameter hose - and fill it then drive with the water to the troughs. I haul water every week from town and use this system and have for years. Poly tanks are light and almost managable for one person but they are clumsy
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          • #6
            The water barrels you can get for camping might be a solution for you. The ones I've seen have a hose so you don't have to worry about dumping.

            I don't think that moving a filled tank with a fork lift would work out well as you hit bumps and lose water. But I've not tried it.
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            • #7
              Lots of free surface effect in a big water trough like that, I'd be afraid to move it, or it'd take too long. I vote for the tank in the back of the pickup truck, either barrels or the poly tanks. I don't know about the cost effectiveness of using un buried irrigation pipe as an option, whether your site is set up so that you could run them safely, how much your area freezes etc. For a while we had an auto waterer set up for our small animals that ran off of a five gallon bucket and a surface irrigation pipe (that black plastic stuff) that could accept a hose at either end as a semi permanent water pipe outdoors. The auto waterer parts were too delicate to remain outside and were damaged by freezing.
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              • #8
                Google bladder pillow tanks, here is one company:

                http://www.atlinc.com/pillow.html#C2

                For years, we had one such foldable plastic bladder tank for the bed of our pickup, to take water to places where we needed it.

                You can also take that full collapsible tank in the loader of your tractor, if you are using the pickup for something else.

                We still have two of those bladder tanks that are small, fit in the bed of the UTV, a wheelbarrow or small ATV trailer.

                Today, practically every Craiglist I have seen has those used "totes" for sale, many that are plumbed for water with a valve at the bottom.

                You have to be sure they are rinsed well, some are sold already for potable water.
                They weigh maybe 30 to 50 lbs, so easy to pick up and put on a pickup bed or tractor bucket or pallet on forks.
                Many farmers here give them away:

                http://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.co...-totes-ibc.php

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                • Original Poster

                  #9
                  Obviously a good point about sloshing while moving the open tubs.

                  I would use the truck but it's not set up for off-highway driving and I'd hate to leave skidmarks in the grass, so I'm thinking tractor again.

                  I forgot about the totes: 275g * 8.3#/gal = 2250lb. I wonder if it would be overkill to rig one of those to hang on the 3pt or hang off an SSQA. Add a 12v or PTO-powered transfer pump and it could be quite easy. Hmm.

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                  • #10
                    We have field stock tanks that are a quarter mile from the
                    nearest water hydrant. We have surface laid black plastic
                    water hose set along the fenceline and buried under each
                    gate leading to the tanks. The tank has a float which admits
                    water when refill is needed (a bit like the mechanism in a
                    toilet tank). We only use these tanks Spring to Fall so the
                    freezing of the lines in winter doesn't affect the horses. The
                    line and the float tolerate freezing fine.

                    If that were not possible, I would choose a couple totes and
                    a hay wagon to haul water out to the field tanks. To prepare
                    the totes we bought for use, we ran the water from the
                    gutters on our indoor arena through the tote (in the top and
                    out the spicot at the bottom) for a few weeks. With that
                    much water through them, not likely to have anything
                    harmful left afterwards. I would choose a hay wagon over
                    a pickup bed or tractor bucket because a tote hold 250 gallons of water is a ton of material, a lot of weight.
                    Last edited by Robin@DHH; Jun. 16, 2013, 01:50 PM. Reason: bad arithmetic
                    Robin from Dancing Horse Hill
                    Elmwood, Wisconsin

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                    • Original Poster

                      #11
                      Fortunately I think 3-4 tubs at under 50gal / ea is the max run we'll make, so we'll only ever use 2/3 of a tote at a time.

                      I don't have a hay wagon right now, only the pickup and tractor.

                      Maybe moving one of these around with pallet forks is the answer:
                      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._on_pallet.jpg

                      I would be limited to 1000lb or so but the tote does not need to be full.

                      Just pull up in front of the tub, lift it 4' high and open the bottom port. Close when the tub is full.
                      Last edited by DHCarrotfeeder; Jun. 16, 2013, 03:15 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DHCarrotfeeder View Post
                        Obviously a good point about sloshing while moving the open tubs.

                        I would use the truck but it's not set up for off-highway driving and I'd hate to leave skidmarks in the grass, so I'm thinking tractor again.

                        I forgot about the totes: 275g * 8.3#/gal = 2250lb. I wonder if it would be overkill to rig one of those to hang on the 3pt or hang off an SSQA. Add a 12v or PTO-powered transfer pump and it could be quite easy. Hmm.
                        We fill any portable water contraption with hoses, empty by gravity.

                        Just remember not to put so much water that the way of transporting it can't handle that much weight.

                        A front end loader should be ok with pallet points, a palled and a tote strapped on it.

                        Or rig it to carry said pallet on the three point hitch.
                        Either way, it should lift it enough to gravity flow into most kinds of stock tanks.

                        We have three of those, ours are older, light blue and cost less than $10 at that time, that fit in the tractor bucket or UTV box:

                        http://www.territorialseed.com/product/15453/277

                        We use them to set fence posts in concrete, as our water source or welding, to keep any fire we may start down by wetting all around where we are working and keeping our hand sprayer and a brush broom wet to hit any extra sparks.

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                        • #13
                          That looks that would work marvelously with pallet forks as long as you could tip the forks back. I'm thinking otherwise the tote would bounce right off the forks.

                          DH made a slanted tote out of a 55 gallon plastic drum. He put different fittings on the bung hole cover, to allow a shut off valve and for garden hose tipped it on it side cut a hole in the side, used plumbing cement to cement a fitting for a cap. We use this for filling. It is mounted on an angled wood frame that I even can carry around easily. We used small ratchet straps to keep the drum in place. Attach a hose to the reworked bung and Voila! Automatic gravity fed water dispenser. Put it in the back of truck to fill it and away you go.

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                          • #14
                            I carry one of these
                            http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/stor...ge-tank-65-gal
                            in my golf cart. Would it fit in the bucket of your Loader?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by DHCarrotfeeder View Post
                              Fortunately I think 3-4 tubs at under 50gal / ea is the max run we'll make, so we'll only ever use 2/3 of a tote at a time.

                              I don't have a hay wagon right now, only the pickup and tractor.

                              Maybe moving one of these around with pallet forks is the answer:
                              http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._on_pallet.jpg

                              I would be limited to 1000lb or so but the tote does not need to be full.

                              Just pull up in front of the tub, lift it 4' high and open the bottom port. Close when the tub is full.
                              We have one with integral slots for the forks. Not real beefy though.
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                              • #16
                                I hauled water for a year with two 65 gallon tanks in my truck. Worked fine. Gravity flow takes care of getting the water out of the truck to the tanks. One thing, if you go this route, change the fitting on the tank to be bigger than the standard garden hose. personally, I bought some 1 in PVC pipe (very cheap) and just took the spigot off the tank to dump into my water troughs.

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                                • #17
                                  Have you explored the idea of having another, closer well put in? My husband drove the last one on our farm. It can be a DIY project depending on what is below the surface.
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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by f4leggin View Post
                                    I hauled water for a year with two 65 gallon tanks in my truck. Worked fine. Gravity flow takes care of getting the water out of the truck to the tanks. One thing, if you go this route, change the fitting on the tank to be bigger than the standard garden hose. personally, I bought some 1 in PVC pipe (very cheap) and just took the spigot off the tank to dump into my water troughs.
                                    Gravity works just fine. My 180 gallon tank has a 2" gate valve and I am running 2" suction hose (from an air seeder) for water flow. Suction hose is safe for drinking water.
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                                    • #19
                                      We had horses out in the pasture beyond where the hose could reach, and we were not digging water lines.

                                      A pvc spigot with a turn valve, long piece pf pvc all from home depot, or wherever is all you need.

                                      Place big rubbermaid plastic tub put in the back of the truck, fill with water.
                                      When not in use, disconnect the long pvc, and set it next to the trough for the next time when you load up the trough into the truck. Easy.

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                                      • #20
                                        I think maybe you are underestimating how much of a pita driving water around is. There will be twice as much waiting in a hauling situation. You'll wait around for it to fill your tank, then you'll drive out and wait for it to fill the troughs.

                                        I don't know anybody who does it by choice. If dragging several hoses around is possible, that's probably far less work, and less waiting..

                                        If you really want to haul it, get a tote or tank in the back of the pickup or on a carry-all on the tractor's 3 point hitch so you have something sealed on top and you are not sloshing half your load on the way there so forced to drive at 1mph.

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