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  • Solar Powered Outdoor Arena Lights???

    Hi, does anybody use solar powered lights and if so what was the costs involved to light your ring? Or if anybody has any helpful information please chime in.
    Last edited by Zanny; Oct. 23, 2008, 01:17 PM.

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    I'm going say no can do. Can't get enough juice to run real arena lights on solar alone,unless you have a ho' lotta room for solar panels

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      #3
      Solar panels can be ontop of 36 stall barn and 120x250 covered arena.


      Saw this when searching for solar energy and horses. "The 17kW system at Cooper-Garrod is used to run the tasting room and wine offices, as well as the stable offices and riding arena lighting for its 200-horse equestrian center.

      The 96 rooftop solar modules will eliminate 22,000kW of energy previously bought from PG&E each year. The system cost about $120,000, but combined tax incentives will provide a payback in fewer than five years."

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      • #4
        well there you go, LOL! I can't imagine spending 100+K of my own cash money lighting anything, so have at it.

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        • #5
          So cool...I love this idea. I also love wind farms and can't understand the resistance to them. If it pays for itself in a reasonable amount of time I say go for it. I fantasize about living 100% off the grid.
          "look deep into his pedigree. Look for the name of a one-of-a-kind horse who lends to his kin a fierce tenacity, a will of iron, a look of eagles. Look & know that Slew is still very much with us."

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            #6
            The thing is it has gotten cheaper and with the energy crisis they are offering rebates and incentives. If we don't use all the energy it goes back in the grid and we get credit from the power company. No we can't make money, but having no electic bill for us would be huge. As you can imagine at night with one lighted arena it gets busy so we are checking out ways to light the outdoor ring.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sisu27 View Post
              So cool...I love this idea. I also love wind farms and can't understand the resistance to them. If it pays for itself in a reasonable amount of time I say go for it. I fantasize about living 100% off the grid.
              This probably isn't an option for Zanny since the Carolinas are not very windy (except on the coast), but if you live on more than 1 acre and your average wind speed is 10 mph or more, you can have your very own wind turbine. The U.S. Department of Energy maps can judge whether you live in a windy enough area:
              http://www.windpoweringamerica.gov/wind_maps.asp

              And this is a good FAQ about whether a residential wind turbine is practical for you:
              http://www.awea.org/faq/rsdntqa.html

              As you can tell, I also fantasize about living off grid. Unfortunately, my rented townhouse is not really a candidate for that.
              Head Geek at The Saddle Geek Blog http://www.thesaddlegeek.com/

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              • #8
                Wind isn't a panacea. Killing birds and running lines to them to make 'em happen...that takes energy.

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                  Originally posted by katarine View Post
                  Wind isn't a panacea. Killing birds and running lines to them to make 'em happen...that takes energy.

                  I will admit that I have not researched the hell out of it but I can't imagine other sources of energy being any better in respect to the above concerns. We have dabbled with solar power at the family cottage out of neccessity (remote island) and I think it is awesome. We are 100% off the grid there...gravity feed running water, solar panels to run lights, propane fridge and range, woodstove for heat...it works great and feels good too.


                  To keep this HR I also tried to convince a previous BO to look into wind or solar in order to have lights in the outdoor. He wasn't interested but I have retained the thought for the day I have the time and $$ to have my own place.
                  "look deep into his pedigree. Look for the name of a one-of-a-kind horse who lends to his kin a fierce tenacity, a will of iron, a look of eagles. Look & know that Slew is still very much with us."

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                  • #10
                    Solar 'High-Lux' Street Light (Complete With 20', 26' or 33' Pole) $2,999.99 each

                    sounds pretty doable to me, considering the LEDs will last about 22 years.

                    also, in my area if you're on the grid and making more solar electricity than you need you can sell it back to the grid.
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                    • #11
                      My barn cut portions of the roof and installed corrogated fibeglass panels to allow soft light in on bright days. Old fashioned "solar" lighting! We get heavy snowfall and it just slides off. Works great except Syracuse (dreary-cuse) is second only to Seattle in sun-less days.

                      The arena came with florescent shop lights when the BO bought it and they were tempermental. He replaced them with (I'm gonna guess here) sodium lights. They take a minute to warm & brighten up, but they have worked flawlessly since installation over 7 years ago.

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                        The ring is 150x250 outdoor ring. We have lights in the covered arena and skylights With wind power I also heard you could get a "thumping" noise?

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                          Originally posted by Zanny View Post
                          Hi, does anybody use solar powered lights and if so what was the costs involved to light your ring? Or if anybody has any helpful information please chime in.
                          Solar is great in areas West of the Big Muddy. In the Eastern U.S. it's problematical except in places like FL or the Gulf Coast.

                          Lighting means not just a solar array, but also a storage system, distribution system, monitoring system, etc. This means $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

                          Be VERY warry of people trying to sell you systems. If it seems too good to be true it probably is.

                          Here are some helpful URLs:

                          http://www.solar4power.com/solar-power-sizing.html

                          http://www.usasolarstore.com/images/...owto/Avail.pdf

                          http://www.sureguard.com.au/solaranimationww.html

                          G.
                          Mangalarga Marchador: Uma Raça, Uma Paixão

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                          • #14
                            check this out

                            http://www.dsireusa.org/

                            Okay, hopefully this shows up as a link for you! This is a nifty map of renewable energy rebates and incentives by state. Great place to start.

                            Solar could surely work for you - it's not cheap, simply because the equipment is not cheap, but there are some great incentives and rebates in place as well as federal tax incentives to help make it more do-able. There's also documented increase in property value when you decrease your utility cost.

                            (so shares this horseperson trapped behind the desk of a solar company out west)

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                              Originally posted by katarine View Post
                              Wind isn't a panacea. Killing birds and running lines to them to make 'em happen...that takes energy.
                              You're going to have to run lines to make solar work too, so I don't see how that's valid.

                              Killing birds is a valid concern, but one I'd hope people would research carefully before throwing it out there as a blanket reason not to get a turbine. It may be valid if you live in a migration pathway, but otherwise a lot of the numbers out there (on both sides of the debate) are bullcraparoodle:
                              http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006...n_misconce.php

                              Regarding the noise, a residential turbine makes about as much noise as a washing machine.
                              Head Geek at The Saddle Geek Blog http://www.thesaddlegeek.com/

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                                Originally posted by jn4jenny View Post
                                You're going to have to run lines to make solar work too, so I don't see how that's valid.

                                Killing birds is a valid concern, but one I'd hope people would research carefully before throwing it out there as a blanket reason not to get a turbine. It may be valid if you live in a migration pathway, but otherwise a lot of the numbers out there (on both sides of the debate) are bullcraparoodle:
                                http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006...n_misconce.php

                                Regarding the noise, a residential turbine makes about as much noise as a washing machine.
                                I've stood among many huge wind turbines and they are nearly silent...a slight whooshing noise but that is it...I was surprised.

                                As for the birds...I can't get too excited about it. I hate to see any animal come to any harm but birds getting mangled in wind turbines doesn't offend me nearly as much as say...factory farming. Seems like an unfortunate side effect.
                                "look deep into his pedigree. Look for the name of a one-of-a-kind horse who lends to his kin a fierce tenacity, a will of iron, a look of eagles. Look & know that Slew is still very much with us."

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                                  Thank you for the links everybody. If you hear anything else or know of installments, please post.

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                                  • #18
                                    Where I live I'd be stupid to try a wind farm. I'm E of the big muddy, not a suitable place to plant a turbine, thanks

                                    and I still think solar energy is cost prohibitive to install for the purposes of lighting a large indoor arena.

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                                    • #19
                                      If you're not jumping and will settle for working close to the rail, larger solar-powered garden lights mounted on each fence post may be an option. Beware the cheaper versions of these light. Many won't stay charged during the Winter months.

                                      If you have power available and are simply trying to be "green", a bunch of 100-Watt fixtures bulbed with CFLs would be more practical.
                                      The inherent vice of Capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings. The inherent virtue of Socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
                                      Winston Churchill

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                                      • #20
                                        I'm just bumping this up because it the most recent thread on this topic and I've been looking for a long time for affordable, simple solar powered lights to light my small arena (70x110) in winter. After lots of searching and discussions with various customer service reps, I've just ordered one of these, http://www.ycasolarlightstore.com/So..._p/flp-002.htm that has a remote control setting, which means that you can turn it on and off while it is mounted on the poles. I couldn't have spots or floods that were on automatically dusk to dawn, or were motion detector lights (I want to be kind to my neighbors!) It also comes with flat mounting hardware so it can be attached to poles.

                                        For $69.95 with free shipping, we're going to give one a try. If it charges and lights a portion of my ring moderately well -- I may order 1-3 more. Should be here in a week. I'm crossing my fingers! I don't need bright light -- just enough to exersize.

                                        If anyone has any experience with these, let me know...
                                        "Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall." - Confucious
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