• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Another Truck Question Ram2500 or Tundra

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Another Truck Question Ram2500 or Tundra

    I'm on the search for my first truck and trailer. I can't afford the taxes, insurance, and parking on two vehicles, so the truck will be my daily driver as well as need to haul a two horse trailer (I will be trailer shopping once I find the truck). Given the fact that I need the truck to pull double duty I've been primarily looking at half ton trucks. However, I've run across a 2007 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 5.7 Hemi engine that is within my price range. The Ram is listed at 345hp, 375torque, and a 3.73 axle ratio. I've also found a 2007 Toyota Tundra with the 5.7 iForce V8 with 381hp, 401 torque, and 4.3 axle ratio. Both trucks are 4x4 and have just under 50k miles. I'm still shopping so open to other ideas, but if you were to choose between these which would you choose and why?

  • #2
    The 2500 is not a half-ton. Compare the towing capacity of each.

    Also have you factored the fuel usage into your choice of having one vehicle?



    • #3
      You're trying to compare apples to oranges. Half ton truck vs three-quarter ton truck.

      Also impossible to answer the question without knowing what you're going to haul.

      But with the info given, I'd choose the Tundra, hands down. Of course, I'll also never own a Dodge. EVERY person I know who drives a Dodge truck has replaced the transmission. Sometimes more than once.


      • Original Poster

        Sorry I wasn't clear...I realize the 2500 is a 3/4 ton. I hadn't considered a 3/4 ton until I ran across this particular one which is in my price range with the features I want. So now I'm weighing the pros and cons of the Tundra which is on the heavier duty end of the 1/2 ton and the 3/4 ton Ram. If the dealer has the correct axel ratio listed for the Ram the Ram has a towing capacity about 1500lbs lower than the Tundra.

        As for factoring fuel usage into the thought of a second vehicle...I have considered it, but between taxes on both, tags for both, insurance on both, and an extra $40/month to park the second vehicle the numbers don't work in favor of two.


        • #5
          I'm no fan of Dodge but I promise that everything about the Ram 2500 will be considerably more heavy duty than the Tundra. A 1/2 ton truck is made for occasional light duty towing only. I know there are posters who will disagree with this but we farm for our living and I've owned many, many 1/2 ton, 3/4 ton and 1 ton trucks over the years. It would never occur to me to use any sort of 1/2 ton as my primary trailer tow vehicle.

          If I were buying a Ram I'd sure be looking for one with a manual shift transmission for all the reasons the other posters have mentioned.


          • #6
            Personally I'd go with the Dodge - I've driven them since the mid 90's without a problem. My current one (2008 Ram 1500) is at 91,000 miles and it's still going strong. I just took it on last week for its five year checkup - it came with a lifetime warranty so it has to be checked every five years with a dealership - the transmission passed with flying colors - no issues anywhere. I know a lot of people hate Dodge - they did have issues back in the late 90's with their transmission but that has changed - personally I love them. My Ram does have a lot of "heavy duty" parts on it though it is only a half-ton (i'd never pull a gooseneck with it, etc.). It is rated to tow 8500 lbs and has a higer rear-end gear ratio than my previous Ram which was the 2500 and rated to tow 8850.

            Last edited by ryansgirl; Apr. 1, 2013, 06:50 AM.
            "When a horse greets you with a nicker & regards you with a large & liquid eye, the question of where you want to be & what you want to do has been answered." CANTER New England


            • #7
              Originally posted by Simkie View Post
              . EVERY person I know who drives a Dodge truck has replaced the transmission. Sometimes more than once.
              Hardly. That would be because they don't know how to drive it, i.e., aren't using the tow haul switch. Fleet vehicles two WAAAAAAY more than any average person does and for sure they use Dodge. Mine is just about 200k mi and no tranny problems. Go with the 3/4 ton Dodge, towing is easier, easier on the truck. It would be better still to get a diesel but but even with a gasser, you'll be happier - gearing is heavier duty in a 3/4 than a 1/2 ton.


              • #8
                Total Dodge fan here, just bought my second 2500...the first one is a 95 2500 Diesel 4x2 with 260K miles on it and it still runs and pulls like a top Just bought a used 06 2500 Diesel 4x4 with 70K miles on it and so far, I couldn't be happier (I've put 10K miles on it since December, about half of that long distance hauling).

                I would definitely choose a Dodge over a Tundra if you want to tow with it...but the two trucks you are comparing are both gas (I know diesel isn't an option for the Tundra). If you are concerned about costs, the mileage you will get on a 2500 HEMI is going to cost you I think. Gas engines just don't get the mileage that Diesels do when you start making the vehicles heavier duty...and forget about it when you are towing!

                So...I would look for a used Diesel if you are going to get a 3/4 ton...and if you are going to tow on any sort of regular basis...I'd get a 3/4 ton!

                FWIW, I get 22 mpg on the "new" diesel around town and about 24mpg on the highway, I get 12mpg when towing...and I can't even feel the trailer.
                Thoroughbred Placement Resources, Inc