• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Is keeping horses easier in south than north?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #81
    Originally posted by clanter View Post
    First, despite rumors we do have electrcity down here

    Secondly the available daylight is greater in the south
    http://www.sunrisesunset.com/predefined.asp
    LMAO
    "Kindness is free" ~ Eurofoal
    ---
    The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances.

    Comment


    • #82
      Originally posted by clanter View Post
      As for hay cost... this offset by the oil and natural gas production that the people up north use without concern during the long cold winters, so our hay is free... just wished we had bought more land that we did.
      This made me laugh. Are you forgetting about the air conditioning that people down south use without concern during the long hot summers? Are you forgetting about rolling blackouts in Texas? I lived in Austin for many years before moving to New England and what I spend on heating here is about what I spent on electric to run the air conditioning for over half the year in Texas. Hay was definitely not "free."

      Comment


      • #83
        Originally posted by cgn38 View Post

        And one more: Some southerners mention mud, others don't. Where in the southeast is the best areas to avoid mud? But with avoidance of mud potential, does that come with a decrease in pasture quality?

        Thank you
        Aiken! Great sandy footing and no mud, no slipping, no hard-baked like concrete ground. Minimal bugs compared to other places I've lived, other than gnats which I manage by keeping fly masks on the horses. Pasture quality depends on maintenance. An established burmuda field does well. Smaller paddocks will need irrigation during drought or management to prevent overgrazing, but the burmuda will pop right back given water and heat. In the winter months, you can overseed with winter rye so there is green to nibble even in Jan, though we still feed $hay$ year round and more in winter.
        Hindsight bad, foresight good.

        Comment


        • #84
          I have always had horses in Massachusetts and hate winter more and more every.single.year. I often dream of moving south, but the husband wants to stay here because he DOES NOT like heat and humidity (he is English- they don't do either well). How are Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina for horse keeping? I often think they'd be far enough south to improve the winter situation, but far enough north that it may work for DH with regard to those muggy hot summers. Am I dreaming? North Carolina in the Raleigh Durham area may actually have work for us, we're both in technology.

          Comment


          • #85
            What's your definition of "heat and humidity"?

            July and August in the Raleigh area - and most all of NC from the foothills on East - can be in the 90's and 50%+ humidity, often with several days over 100, not always in a row but sometimes

            Va can be the same. MD too.

            The farther West in all those states, the less you might deal with humidity, but it still just depends.

            Winter here IS an improvement over anything in the NE If you/he can tolerate a couple months of higher temps and humidity, then the rest of the year will be a breeze
            ______________________________
            The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

            Comment


            • #86
              I do believe it's easier.
              • No frozen water.
              • No waiting til the sun's up to turn out cause it's so cold.
              • Riding is available year around (especially if you have lights to ride in the summer evenings when it's a bit cooler and in the winter after work).


              Florida issues:
              • Land is very expensive (of course at the moment it's a bargin).
              • Summers most people turn out all night and in during the days (under fans). I do the opposite but I have plenty of shade on my property.
              • Bugs - means lots of fly spray in the spring,summer and fall.


              But don't ask me - I plan to move in a few year further up north (not too far) since we were given LOTS of land.
              Now in Kentucky

              Comment


              • #87
                I do have to make the point that here in Ocala, there hasnt been a single day since Ive lived here, that during the summer we were any where near the hottest part of the CONUS. I see the northeast sweltering in upper 90's and 100's, when here its 92 or 93. Even TX and the Midwest gets hotter than it does here. I dont know if its the proximity to the ocean, or how flat it is here, but Ive rarely been as hot here as when I lived in the North East. Talk about sweltering!

                Comment


                • #88
                  I'll second that. Two major bodies of water on either side of us temper the humidity. If it gets too wet, it'll just rain and be done with it. But we are hot and humid for much longer. I take August and much of July off from riding. We can ride through the winter though.
                  “Pray, hope, and don't worry.”

                  St. Padre Pio

                  Comment


                  • #89
                    Originally posted by elctrnc View Post
                    This made me laugh. Are you forgetting about the air conditioning that people down south use without concern during the long hot summers? Are you forgetting about rolling blackouts in Texas? I lived in Austin for many years before moving to New England and what I spend on heating here is about what I spent on electric to run the air conditioning for over half the year in Texas. Hay was definitely not "free."
                    We aren't comparing apples to apples as I am comparing Tennessee to Vermont, however I was shocked at the cost to heat our 1800 square foot house in the winter in Vermont . WAY more expensive to heat the house in Vermont (with low ceilings) than to keep the air conditioning set on 70 in a comparable sized house in Tennessee with high ceilings and lots of windows. Not to mention not having to either pay to have the driveway plowed or get out there and do it myself and add an extra chore to my day. Comparing Vermont to Tennessee the cost of winter definitely drove up the cost of living for us in general, not to mention the much higher tax rates in Vermont. So yes, from my personal experience keeping horses is much easier in the south vs. the north.
                    www.retiredhorses.com
                    Blogging about daily life on the retirement farm: http://paradigmfarms.blogspot.com/
                    Paradigm Farms on Facebook

                    Comment


                    • #90
                      I'm currently in Wisconsin. It can be pretty here, but the cold can really suck. I especially hate trying to drag horses in when it gets dark so early and waddling around like a Pillsbury dough boy because I have so many layers on. It does get hot in summer too and the humidity isn't my friend.

                      I had an easier time living in Southern California and getting up early and riding before the heat then than in Wisconsin. I don't know, sometimes it's hard getting up when you just melt into a puddle of sweat by stepping outside. Summers in southern Oregon seemed easier too.

                      But honestly, I would have to try out a few places before I could decide my favorite, hah. But I will say my next move is less cold (at least a couple fewer months of freezing) and more time to ride with less time fighting blizzards, frozen water tanks, hoses, etc. Of course there are trade offs, but life is short and more hours in the saddle should be worth it in the end, I hope.
                      Semi Feral

                      Comment


                      • #91
                        I miss the snow back in Colorado and Virginia. I mostly miss the fact that the bugs weren't super sized and died off for a much longer period...
                        “Pray, hope, and don't worry.”

                        St. Padre Pio

                        Comment


                        • #92
                          Got the best of both worlds. Wednesday 54 degrees. Today 6. And I didn't even have to leave the state.

                          Comment


                          • #93
                            I live in NH and in SC.
                            SC is definitely easier. In NH, the horses are either out or in stalls. Here, they have stalls with walk outs, and they choose to mostly stay outside.
                            So, I can mostly manage farm chorses myself, where in NH, I have to have someone come in to help clean stalls. I have 9 horses.

                            Hay is way more expensive. Weather here is wierd, so I do much more blanketing than I ever did in NH.

                            Lifestyle is definitely a negative for me here. In NH, I live very close to conveniences. Here it is a half hour drive to town.
                            Here, things well, just are not available, and they will tell you that it will be here tomorrow, and then this goes on for a week or two or three. I mean, really how can tractor supply be out of basic hardware, feed, etc is beyond me considering this is Aiken and a horse town, esp in winter. Its not just tsc but every where. I think its a southern thing.

                            I do like weather here, but thats about it. I am probably the only person who is not enthralled with Aiken, and have no desire to live here year round.
                            There are other places in the south which I feel are more progressive and I am on the look out for another place that is horsey, but has other options too.

                            Another thing I wasn't prepared for. In SC, the coastal dies in october...I mean die as in brown and dry. It also doesn't come in till may. It is not a lush grass like northern grass, it is wiry and well, just not that great.
                            So, in winter, be prepared if you want something for your horses to graze to plant ryegrass...which can cost you a lot of money.
                            when people mention the footing here in aiken is great, that is true, however it also makes for lousy pasture. Soil is sandy, and does not hold water and well, the soil just is lousy.

                            I did not find the bugs that bad in june here...when I left at the end of the month to head north. Well, bugs were not bad, but flies are disgusting. There are flies even in winter here. In warmer temps, OMG, one needs a fly spray system...those DR. foster battery operated sprayers don't do a thing.

                            I wear the same wool, down, hat and gloves etc that I did up north. Its very cold at night, and in the morning, and then by mid day, end of day it warms up. So, if you are only out mid day, its great, but if you are caring for horses early morn or night, its cold. So,for example, last night it was 25 and this afternoon it was in the mid 50s. Another thing, temps in one day are huge swings.

                            The sun is very strong, even when its cold and windy. SInce it is flatter and less hills/mtns to block the wind, it is incredible to deal with the wind.
                            save lives...spay/neuter/geld

                            Comment


                            • #94
                              Like many others, I believe it's easier in the south, but I think horses are healthiest in colder climates. I live in northern Vermont, and the winters here can be brutal. 2 weeks ago we never got above zero for several days. My horses were snug in their heavy Rambos, got some extra hay, and were just fine. They went outside each day, except for 2 when the windchill was about -30. I complain about the winter WAAAY more than my horses.

                              I love the seasons here in VT. Yes, the winters are long and cold, but I would take that over the heat, humidity, bugs, and earthquakes, tornados, mudslides, hurricanes, etc. that come with living in other places. I like having winter so my horses get some much deserved time off!

                              Comment


                              • #95
                                Originally posted by clanter View Post
                                After having to dig through feet of snow, battle minus twenty Fahrenheit temperatures, replace water buckets as they shatter when cleared of ice we gave up and moved to Texas
                                Someone needs to learn where to buy rubber water buckets! You can pound on those suckers all day with a hammer and they never shatter! We switch out our plastic buckets for rubber in November each year. They freeze, you tip them over, kick the bottom a few times and the ice crumbles right out.

                                Comment


                                • #96
                                  Originally posted by VTMorgan06 View Post
                                  I like having winter so my horses get some much deserved time off!
                                  on the other side, I like our summers as our horses get some much deserved time off...too

                                  Comment

                                  Working...
                                  X