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  • Ford Raptor

    What can you tell me about this?

    I've heard it's hard to park because it's big and that it uses gas like no other. But is it good for towing at all?
    We have a 3 horse BP slant load. We don't ever haul more than 2 horses at a time. It has a front tack room with a couple saddles and tack and what not. We pull this with our F150 with no problems.

    I don't know much about trucks... so what do I need to know about the Raptor? Good and bad.
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    Just looked it up....it's basically an F-150, one made for off-roading. Different size engines and this year there are some suspension changes to improve off-road performance. Whether these changes are good for towing, don't know.

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    • #3
      Look at the spec sheet.

      http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/specifications/towing/

      Ford rate that model at 6000 lb towing capacity and all the F150 models with the 6.2L engine but not the 4.10 axle ratio at at least 9500 lb.

      You'll be overweight with a 3h and tack room.

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        #4
        I'm sorry, I really don't understand all those things very well. I was hoping someone had experience with one. So in short, the F150 can tow more than a Raptor?
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        • #5
          In short, the Raptor is an F150.

          F150s come with a variety of options, some of which are good for towing. Some are not.

          The 4.10 axle ratio is not good for towing. The manufacturer says the Raptor can only tow half as much as some other F150s.

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          • #6
            The Raptor is an F150 made into an expensive, off-roading 'toy'. In short, it's even worse for towing than a regular F150 would be. A regular F150 is not enough truck for what you want to do, so you're probably looking at the F250 to suit your towing needs.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by tangledweb View Post

              The 4.10 axle ratio is not good for towing. The manufacturer says the Raptor can only tow half as much as some other F150s.
              That is not true

              According to Roger Clark, senior manager for General Motors Integration and Fuel Economy Learning Vehicles Program (FELVP):

              "If you want a truck that responds best to a heavy load or towing a trailer, then 3.73, 3.92, or 4.10 ratios will provide the best wheel torque at the lower engine speeds.”

              A lower (numerically higher) gear ratio provides more low-speed wheel torque, which makes it easier to get the vehicle moving when pulling a trailer or carrying a load of passengers and cargo. Lower gears also improve acceleration up to about 60mph. (Passing performance and speeds above 60mph is a matter of horsepower, not axle ratio.)"

              http://www.trucktestdigest.com/axle%20ratios.htm

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              • #8
                /4.10 is great for towing, hell on gas mileage
                "You can't really debate with someone who has a prescient invisible friend"
                carolprudm

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by NBChoice View Post
                  I'm sorry, I really don't understand all those things very well. I was hoping someone had experience with one. So in short, the F150 can tow more than a Raptor?

                  A Raptor is an F150 -- it's a specific high-end model that's tricked out for off-roading. It's higher off the ground, has different springs in the rear end, different tires, et cetera. It's not made to pull a horse trailer--the components that make it good for off-roading make it really bad for towing. You'll ruin the truck really quickly that way.

                  You'd be better off with a "plain" F150 like the XLT. Most XLT's sold today have the towing package which includes integrated trailer brake controller and transmission cooler. I just bought a 2010 XLT with 4-wheel drive that I LOVE, and it tows my 3-horse like a dream. Or if you want something fancier, look at the Lariat or King Ranch models.

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                    #10
                    Ohh, thank you so much. That makes more sense to me haha.
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                    • #11
                      FWIW, I have a 2008 F-150 FX4, 5.4L V8, and I have absolutely no trouble towing anything with that truck. Currently, I have a steel stock type trailer, 2 horse slant, with a tack room. It pulls it with no trouble at all, even with 2 horses and a tack room full. I am considering trading my trailer in for a gooseneck, 2H with tack, and I am comfortable using my current truck to haul this type of trailer.
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                        #12
                        Sucker- I'm glad to hear that. I don't know why everyone always says F150's aren't enough for pulling trailers. Our F150 has absolutely no problem hauling our setup. We've never had a problem and we've been doing it for 5ish years probably.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NBChoice View Post
                          Sucker- I'm glad to hear that. I don't know why everyone always says F150's aren't enough for pulling trailers. Our F150 has absolutely no problem hauling our setup. We've never had a problem and we've been doing it for 5ish years probably.
                          I know two people with the same SUV. One tows a 2H Brenderup, the other tows a fully-loaded 3-horse slant with dressing room. He thinks she's a Nervous Nellie, she thinks he's an accident looking for a place to happen. YMMV.
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                          • #14
                            It's overkill for what you want, at least price and gas mileage way, but I can tell you those things are FUN! Girl friend's boyfriend left his at her place for two weeks when he travelled for work and we gave it a good test run But it's more of a toy than a workhorse.
                            It's a small world -- unless you gotta walk home.

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                              #15
                              Yeah, I've heard it's a lot of fun and more for play than anything else. I'm sure if we did get something it'd probably be another Ford F150. We love ours!
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                              Dennis The Menace Too- 1999 ASB Gelding
                              Dreamacres Sublime- 2008 ASB Gelding

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by NBChoice View Post
                                I've heard it's hard to park because it's big
                                Only if you're used to driving a car

                                I was at the local dealership haggeling with them about trading in my truck and what they'd give me for it. While I was waiting around, this older lady and her husband were there signing papers on a brand new F-150. She said to me "Oh, what are you looking to buy today?" and I said "Well, I'm thinking of trading my F-150 in for a 3/4 ton" Her response: "oh my, that's pretty big for such a small woman!" Uh, I can see over the steering wheel, and I can reach the pedals, and I know what I'm doing thanks! It always amazes me the people who think "big trucks" can only be driven by men!
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                                • #17
                                  My co-workers always ask me "Why do you need such a big truck?"

                                  Hmm, what do you suggest I tow my horses around with, a Subaru outback? It's not a big truck, its a half ton. I can't go any smaller and safely tow!

                                  All my co-workers are men, and none of them drive anything bigger than a Honda CRV.
                                  "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                                  • #18
                                    ROFL -- it's funny how it all depends on perspective. I see an F150 (and have a Silverado 1500 for work) and think, awww, look at the baby truck. It isn't till I get into my personal truck (F250 7.3L) that I feel like I finally have a truck under me. And funnily enough, the Silverado is a b*tch to park, turning radius of the Battlestar Galactica, but I can put my longbed F250 just about anywhere. Design, design, design....

                                    For the record, I towed for about 4 years with the half ton gassers. They did it, but never going back. It can work with small trailer but the gas mileage and engine wear and tear did me in!
                                    Life doesn't have perfect footing.

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                                      #19
                                      I have no problem parking our F150, unless the space is super small or the lot is squished. The turn radius is awesome! But I do drive my car more than the truck, so it does take a little getting used to I suppose.

                                      Lol, sucker-Just reply with "Why do I NOT need such a big truck?" :P

                                      Wild: it is funny how perspectives are different. I'm 5'2" and I can see just fine out of the F150 and have no problems driving it, but any bigger and I'd feel like I was being swallowed. I'm sure I'd get used to it eventually. But someone in my graduating class drives a Silverado and she's my size and she has absolutely no problems parking it.
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                                      The New Banner's Choice- 1994 ASB Mare
                                      Dennis The Menace Too- 1999 ASB Gelding
                                      Dreamacres Sublime- 2008 ASB Gelding

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                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by wildlifer View Post
                                        ROFL -- it's funny how it all depends on perspective. I see an F150 (and have a Silverado 1500 for work) and think, awww, look at the baby truck.
                                        They are practically the same truck, different brands only. Why do you see one as big and one as small?
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