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  • Originally posted by Slewdledo View Post
    Not at all! Just my dog's way of saying, "Don't be afraid, you've got ME!"
    O! Sorry for my misunderstanding. I thought it was a very well written book with a lot of good advice.

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    • Whats the latest? Was it them?
      Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
      http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

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      • Originally posted by Kestrel View Post
        I live in the land of coffee and software, surrounded by Priuses and Porsches. A month or so ago, someone knocked on a neighbor's door around 10 am. She didn't feel like going to the door, so she ignored it. The person kicked in the door and came into the house. The homeowner screamed and ran out another door. Police arrived about 10 minutes later and locked down the neighborhood. We have been getting people knocking on the door with "iffy" reasons probably 3 times a week, and there are several break-ins in our techie town each day.

        About a year ago, a neighbor family pulled into their driveway to find a van with a woman sitting in it, backed up to the front door. Dad got out of the car to talk to the woman, who was making a phone call. As he walked up to the van, four men came out of the house and beat him severely, putting him in the ICU in a coma.

        Several months later, someone knocked on my next door neighbor's door at 1 a.m.. Their 6 year old got out of bed and looked out the window to see three men wearing black clothes and ski masks. She turned on a light and they ran back down the driveway.

        Last spring, my DH and I were awakened at 5 a.m. by pounding on our front door. DH got up, flipped on the hall light and headed to the door. No one there. Called the police to report it, and they said it was likely burglers looking for houses with no one home.

        They did catch two separate rings working our city, and things have been quieter lately. We were told that it wouldn't be long before another group moved in to take their place, so we shouldn't get complacent.

        There have been a couple homeowners in the area that used deadly force to defend themselves inside their own homes in the last year or two. No charges were filed.

        This stuff happens all the time, in all areas of the country. Drug addiction drives much of it, but there are many who don't care if it's your stuff, they think that if they can steal it, you deserve to lose it. And they are not willing to throw their hands up and surrender if they meet up with you in your own home. They will hurt you or kill you to get away, so sometimes just for the kicks.

        I'm thinking about getting handgun training and getting one to keep in the house. We have long guns (DH used to be a sharp shooter) and I do ok with those, but since I will be shooting from where I will be hiding in the closet, I'm not sure I can fit a long one in there.
        I'm glad I don't live in your neighborhood! It sounds like this stuff happens every day in your neck of the woods! I'd move!
        "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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        • I'm going to see about getting that book! I like to read, so it may as well be something beneficial!
          "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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            Well, I haven't heard anything from the police. I did try and contact my friend, but they are busy with one of those "Night Out" events this week. The weekly newspaper comes out tomorrow and they report all the arrests, so I will grab it in the morning and see who they list, if I don't hear back from my friend.

            This past weekend, I did find some boxes with locking lids (cannot be opened without opposable thumbs) that were opened recently and left open, even though I have not been in those boxes in a year. So yeah, someone definitely did some snooping while they were there. Luckily my generator, air compressor, and all tools were locked in the bathroom in the barn.
            Rhode Islands are red;
            North Hollands are blue.
            Sorry my thoroughbreds
            Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :

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            • sounds like a great place to collect fingerprints....
              Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
              http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

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              • Originally posted by RacetrackReject View Post
                Well, I haven't heard anything from the police. I did try and contact my friend, but they are busy with one of those "Night Out" events this week. The weekly newspaper comes out tomorrow and they report all the arrests, so I will grab it in the morning and see who they list, if I don't hear back from my friend.

                This past weekend, I did find some boxes with locking lids (cannot be opened without opposable thumbs) that were opened recently and left open, even though I have not been in those boxes in a year. So yeah, someone definitely did some snooping while they were there. Luckily my generator, air compressor, and all tools were locked in the bathroom in the barn.
                It's worth the $ to install cameras and/or a gate. We spent a small fortune on a gate because we don't want uninvited visitors, but if you don't want an automatic gate, it's not an expensive proposition. You can find a cheap surveillance system online and at the very least you will KNOW what is happening on your property! Also, ADT will come install a system for a minimal cost and our monitoring cost is about $50 a month. It sounds like you live in an area where security is important. I hope it works out for you. It's scary how many people are out to do us harm.

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                • Originally posted by showidaho View Post
                  It's worth the $ to install cameras and/or a gate. We spent a small fortune on a gate because we don't want uninvited visitors, but if you don't want an automatic gate, it's not an expensive proposition. You can find a cheap surveillance system online and at the very least you will KNOW what is happening on your property! Also, ADT will come install a system for a minimal cost and our monitoring cost is about $50 a month. It sounds like you live in an area where security is important. I hope it works out for you. It's scary how many people are out to do us harm.
                  Just a note about ADT and similar. My SIL was a LEO for 22 years. She said the home security systems are really not worth the $$ for protection. What happens is the alarm goes off, the company calls your home to see if you need help. If you say yes, or don't answer, they call the police. Basically, if you can acknowledge there is a threat and get to the phone to answer, you could have called 911 and the police would have a 1-5 minute head start. She always suggests a loud dog.
                  "In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move." -Douglas Adams

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                  • Originally posted by GypsyQ View Post
                    Just a note about ADT and similar. My SIL was a LEO for 22 years. She said the home security systems are really not worth the $$ for protection. What happens is the alarm goes off, the company calls your home to see if you need help. If you say yes, or don't answer, they call the police. Basically, if you can acknowledge there is a threat and get to the phone to answer, you could have called 911 and the police would have a 1-5 minute head start. She always suggests a loud dog.
                    Well yes, but if you can not get to the phone to call then they will call for you.

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                    • Originally posted by trubandloki View Post
                      Well yes, but if you can not get to the phone to call then they will call for you.
                      OR if you have a home intruder who tells you to disarm your alarm there is a code for that that disarms the system, but calls the police immediately so your attacker doesn't know you've alerted the authorities.

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                      • Originally posted by GypsyQ View Post
                        She always suggests a loud dog.
                        I have a GSD crossed with something hound. Yesterdya the guys came to repare the gutter. Yes we called them. DH said the dog was locked in the back yard going nuts over these guys getting out of the truck and walking around the front of the house. He got thru the blocked dog door when the garage was opened and got up close/personal. He doesnt like men as a rule. Hes never bit anyone but I think they would thing twice about coming around when we arent here.

                        The kids think the dog is too loud. Im glad he is--makes people think.
                        “Management is doing things right; leadership is doing the right things.” Peter Drucker

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                        • Originally posted by LarkspurCO View Post
                          I had the same guys drive up to my house a few years ago. Creepy looking guys with a big freezer in the bed of the pickup truck. I told them "no thanks, I don't eat meat." They said, "we have salmon." I said I didn't like fish and asked them to leave, which they did.

                          I have also had harmless, friendly people drop by. And, of course, the Jehovah's Witnesses (they will not come back if tell them not too).

                          I am seriously thinking about adding an electric gate.
                          We had one pull up to our dairy at 6pm one winter night. Who pulls up to a place with 450 very visible cows and tries to sell them meat? He looked and spoke like a little hood rat so DH (6'4" 240lb) escorted him to his vehicle. Part of me was thinking he wanted to try and get to our iodine based tit dip. Cooking meth is a huge business around here
                          Originally posted by The Saddle
                          Perhaps I need my flocking adjusted.

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                          • Originally posted by showidaho View Post
                            It's worth the $ to install cameras and/or a gate. We spent a small fortune on a gate because we don't want uninvited visitors, but if you don't want an automatic gate, it's not an expensive proposition. You can find a cheap surveillance system online and at the very least you will KNOW what is happening on your property! Also, ADT will come install a system for a minimal cost and our monitoring cost is about $50 a month. It sounds like you live in an area where security is important. I hope it works out for you. It's scary how many people are out to do us harm.
                            Just buy a $100 wild game camera from Cabella's or something and install it so that it snaps picturse of anyone coming into your driveway or pulls up to your barn. They have ones that are infrared and don't have a flash at night so nobody knows their picture was taken.
                            "If you think nobody cares about you, try missing a couple payments..."

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                            • Originally posted by SuckerForHorses View Post
                              Just buy a $100 wild game camera from Cabella's or something and install it so that it snaps picturse of anyone coming into your driveway or pulls up to your barn. They have ones that are infrared and don't have a flash at night so nobody knows their picture was taken.
                              Yep= money well spent and they are easy to use. We have a Bushnell- caught some poachers with it by putting the video on FB and got tips on who the kids were. Bingo.

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                              • Frankly, I'd hate to have a breakdown or an emergency anywhere in the US requiring me to walk up to someone's front door in the country. The thought of people carrying weapons scares the daylights out of me.

                                I have had to go knock on the door of an isolated house (a mennonite farm) and so did my son. The thought never crossed my mind that I could be welcome with threats and/or weapons. Instead, I got more than the help I needed (just to use a phone as it was pre cell phones). My son was stuck on an icy road and could not budge his car, engine running, keys locked inside.. they asked him in to wait for his dad with the second set of keys...
                                I had asked the lady to please call the number for me as I did not want to ask to come in her house. She let me in and even offered me a glass of water while I waited for help.

                                It can be disturbing for you to find the car and the note (at least they had left a note!)... but then you don't mention your roosters??? I would have because if they were in the trunk, then you would really have good reason to press charges!

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                                  I do have cameras actually, but they are mounted to the house. The barn and the house are too far apart for me to put one of the cameras on the barn and watch. I tried it before, but nothing would pick up. I don't have internet in the barn for the sort of camera you can watch online, plus where I live, the only internet you can get has data caps. I might try the game camera idea, if I can put it where someone wouldn't be able to take it.

                                  I didn't mention the roos because it was possible that they were hiding or somewhere besides in front of the stables. They free range, so they could have been anywhere. When they did not come to roost later that night, I knew they were gone for sure, but still couldn't be entirely sure the people had them which is why I searched for bodies or parts or signs of an animal attack. I didn't connect the whole Polish chicken comment until the next day.

                                  I do have a large dog. GSDx, but she is kenneled in a paddock connected to my grass arena, for her own safety. The shooting neighbors would love to get ahold of her, I'm sure. She looks very much like a coyote, but larger. I actually had a neighbor come over one morning to apologize because he thought he had shot her. He said, "but she was chasing my calves", which I would have completely understood why he shot her if that were the case, but my girl was in her pen and it had been an actual coyote he had shot. Anyway, I'm sure she barked a ton and her bark is big and deep and mean-sounding, but she's penned, so they had nothing to worry about. I'm fairly certain they went out to her pen because of the questions they were asking about her, which I refused to answer.
                                  Rhode Islands are red;
                                  North Hollands are blue.
                                  Sorry my thoroughbreds
                                  Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :

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                                  • Originally posted by FalseImpression View Post
                                    Frankly, I'd hate to have a breakdown or an emergency anywhere in the US requiring me to walk up to someone's front door in the country. The thought of people carrying weapons scares the daylights out of me.

                                    I have had to go knock on the door of an isolated house (a mennonite farm) and so did my son. The thought never crossed my mind that I could be welcome with threats and/or weapons. Instead, I got more than the help I needed (just to use a phone as it was pre cell phones). My son was stuck on an icy road and could not budge his car, engine running, keys locked inside.. they asked him in to wait for his dad with the second set of keys...
                                    I had asked the lady to please call the number for me as I did not want to ask to come in her house. She let me in and even offered me a glass of water while I waited for help.

                                    It can be disturbing for you to find the car and the note (at least they had left a note!)... but then you don't mention your roosters??? I would have because if they were in the trunk, then you would really have good reason to press charges!

                                    I live in rural Alabama and I wouldn't hesitate to approach a house. You knock, you step back, you take your sunglasses off, and you smile.

                                    You act like everyone south of the border is shooting someone at least once a month.

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                                    • Originally posted by katarine View Post
                                      You act like everyone south of the border is shooting someone at least once a month.
                                      More like once per week.

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                                      • Having a gun handy does not mean: aimed at yer head so don' twitch a fainger! It's more like: I'll be polite as long as you are, but I can handle it if you are a serial killer/druggie/thief.

                                        Really, we are nice people! We'll help someone with car troubles in the middle of winter, or help them find their lost dog/cow/horse in our back forty. We just don't like it when someone tries to kill us, steal our stuff, or harm our animals. I would not hesitate to go to an unfamiliar house in my part of the country to ask for help. I would not expect Mrs. Butterworth to answer the door with cookies. I would understand it if I was asked to wait outside, or if I was refused help, especially with recent developments in my area. It comes down to whatever you feel is necessary to keep your family safe (within logical reason...no shooting cars as they pull in or other nonsense, of course!).

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                                        • Having a gun handy does not mean: aimed at yer head so don' twitch a fainger! It's more like: I'll be polite as long as you are, but I can handle it if you are a serial killer/druggie/thief.

                                          Really, we are nice people! We'll help someone with car troubles in the middle of winter, or help them find their lost dog/cow/horse in our back forty. We just don't like it when someone tries to kill us, steal our stuff, or harm our animals. I would not hesitate to go to an unfamiliar house in my part of the country to ask for help.


                                          Those afraid of the thought of carrying a firearm are usually just not used to being around them. Often if your exposure to firearms is the news or movies (which is normal) then the thought of a firearm can be creepy.

                                          99% of people around here don't know who has one and who doesn't. It's called concealed carry for a reason.

                                          You'd be surprised at who actually might carry or have them at home. I'd be a lot more afraid of knocking on a door and having that Honey Boo Boo family answer than someone with a firearm.
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