• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Barn roof color?

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Barn roof color?

    Barn builder wants to build a barn with a dark colored roof because it will match the other buildings better but the climate is very hot in the summer. Does the color make a big enough difference to matter? We always assumed that lighter would be cooler but he says not enough to make a difference.

  • #2
    White roof only. Unless you live in AK.

    Also ALL skylights should be clear.

    Think how much hotter the barn would be today if it was dark.

    White. White only. Just like on a horse trailer. White roof. White only.

    Maybe he should build you two barns. Identical. One with a white roof and one with a dark one. Then decide. Of course on his pocket book.

    If you want hot pink, then you should have it. Do what you want, not him.

    Comment


    • #3
      Is it metal or shingles or something else? I should think that clear skylights are a given. Our roof is sky blue metal over sheet insulation over plywood, so for me color does not matter. What kind of roofing material even comes in white?? Never seen any that I can recall.
      http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fentre...24774504235082

      http://fentressfieldsequestriancenter.com/

      Comment


      • #4
        Steel rooofing comes in white and many colors and styles.

        Some pretty fancy steel out there these days. I am going to be using regular 5-V Crimp (there's another name for it also, but I forget what it is) Steel over plywood and insulated 10 inch rafters.

        Lifetime gauranteed, held down with screws with rubber washers .... they even do them with totally hidden/protected screws theses days if you like.

        Comment


        • #5
          They used to use plain old galvanized shiny too. Corrugated tin they called it I think.
          Our shop has a red metal roof without insulation, and sand colored metal sides, it gets really hot in there during weather like this and I couldn't tell you if the color makes the roof hotter than the side or not - its the sun beating down on it and the lack of shade.
          If you have good insulation I don't think it matters.
          Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
          Incredible Invisible

          Comment


          • #6
            Skylights in a hot climate just invite the sun to shine right down into the barn alllll day long. Do you really want that?

            Yes, white/light reflects more heat than dark. I am SURE there are studies that tell you just how much.

            I am not sure it makes enough of a difference in a barn if there are also big open doors on both ends and preferably also at least exterior stall windows. I would assume a barn built in a hot climate would be very open to start with.
            ______________________________
            The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

            Comment


            • #7
              Light colors reflect light better, unless you also consider the materials:

              Albedo:
              Albedo, or solar reflectance, is a measure of a material's ability to reflect sunlight (including the visible, infrared, and ultraviolet wavelengths) on a scale of 0 to 1. An albedo value of 0.0 indicates that the surface absorbs all solar radiation, and a 1.0 albedo value represents total reflectivity. The ENERGY STAR Reflective Roof Products criteria specify an albedo of 0.65 or higher for low-slope roof applications and 0.25 for sloped roofs.

              Comment

              • Original Poster

                #8
                We were going to stay away from skylights because of the heat. Just resisting the darker color a bit but the builder is really trying to convince us to go with the darker colored metal roof because it looks better. The barn would be open and airy regarding windows and doors and the ceiling is high.

                Bluey, I'll try to find out about what you were referring to. Thanks to all for your thoughts!

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by rmh_rider View Post
                  White roof only. Unless you live in AK.
                  ...
                  White. White only. Just like on a horse trailer. White roof. White only.
                  Sooooo ... what colour did you think she should go with again?

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I did my own study, with shingles, composition roof, I was told dark would make no difference, I had to put sprinklers on the roof, unbearable.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Some of the steel roofong maufacturers list the reflectivity values (or whatever they are called) and the light colors DO make quite a bit of difference.

                      They have a very light grey, light tan, putty, white, oyster white, .... and then the ratings begin to change getting into the medium light tones .... all the way to the dark tones.

                      I would love a dark roof for the looks, but no way for the heat.

                      Living in North Carolina.

                      Comment

                      • Original Poster

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Underthebridge View Post
                        I did my own study, with shingles, composition roof, I was told dark would make no difference, I had to put sprinklers on the roof, unbearable.
                        Do you mean that you chose a dark roof and it was so hot that you had to put sprinklers on the roof?

                        Comment

                        • Original Poster

                          #13
                          And how much of a difference does everybody think that insulation makes in hot climates? Been in barns with insulation and without and frankly, they are both still extremely hot when it's hot outside!

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            No opinion on roof color, but personally, I would put skylights in. My barn has skylights all along the aisle and it puts wonderful light into the barn. I don't have to turn lights on until dusk. Even on cloudy, rainy days (boy could my area use some of those right now!) there is still enough light. I don't think my barn is any hotter than the barns in my area without skylights. I do have many fans running for airflow and tops of all the dutch doors stay open.
                            come what may

                            Rest in peace great mare, 1987-2013

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Insulation makes a huge difference in Georgia, and prevents condensation. One of the very best things you can do with the roof is to install ridge vents. http://www.metalbuildingaccessories..../ventsHome.asp
                              ... _. ._ .._. .._

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                                Insulation makes a huge difference in Georgia, and prevents condensation.
                                This! I have white roofed barns. Most in my area have light colored roofs.
                                "Sometimes you just have to shut up and color."

                                Comment

                                • Original Poster

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Equibrit View Post
                                  Insulation makes a huge difference in Georgia, and prevents condensation. One of the very best things you can do with the roof is to install ridge vents. http://www.metalbuildingaccessories..../ventsHome.asp
                                  Do you like them better than exhaust fans? Or how about ceiling fans versus box fans?

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Yes - they require no power other than natural convection. When used properly with fans you can keep tha air flowing up and out. They are good during the winter too when you don't want a fan running. A safe outdoor reversible ceiling fan will always be better than a box fan.
                                    ... _. ._ .._. .._

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      I'm not even sure it's legal to not use ridge vents around here LOL
                                      ______________________________
                                      The CoTH CYA - please consult w/your veterinarian under any and all circumstances. - ET

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by password View Post
                                        Do you mean that you chose a dark roof and it was so hot that you had to put sprinklers on the roof?
                                        Yes, I went from light grey to very dark, they probably looked black, big mistake, my metal barn roof is light grey

                                        House is sold and redone, never again.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X