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Keeping stock tank for water nice?

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  • Keeping stock tank for water nice?

    I board my horse and her water is a stock tank. It's probably 3 ft long 2 feet wide. There are a few gold fish living in there. I noticed she was not too keen on that tank and when given the chance would go to a different tank. I emptied half the water out of it today and added fresh in hopes it would be more to her liking. Any tips on keeping stock tank water nice for horsie? Thanks in advance.

  • #2
    When I used to work at my trainer's barn and then later when I was leasing a small farm, we used to dump and scrub out the water troughs at least once per week( less in the winter) when the water would get low.


    • #3
      Exactly what Simbalism said, and in the summer it's usually more often than once a week. But if your BO has goldfish in there, she/he probably doesn't want you to dump the water.
      If you're concerned, ask if you can place another tank next to it and you can keep that one clean.


      • #4
        I look at ours and if I wouldn't drink it then Ms Horse shouldn't, ours is dumped, scrubbed as needed which is about every other day.... did find using a kitchen broom made the scrubbing a stand up job

        A thing that I have noticed when given a choice any of our horses will drink from the tanks that have a lower profile ... we have several that have sidewalls of about 15 inches and they prefer those over the 100 gallon tank... I guess those are closer to a more natural drinking elevation


        • #5
          Originally posted by clanter View Post
          I look at ours and if I wouldn't drink it then Ms Horse shouldn't, ours is dumped, scrubbed as needed which is about every other day.... did find using a kitchen broom made the scrubbing a stand up job

          A thing that I have noticed when given a choice any of our horses will drink from the tanks that have a lower profile ... we have several that have sidewalls of about 15 inches and they prefer those over the 100 gallon tank... I guess those are closer to a more natural drinking elevation
          This maybe true but I think it is more to due with the fact the smaller the tank the more it is cleaned and filled with fresh water. In the winter/cool months we use large tank. In the summer smaller so we are forced to clean and fill often.
          My kingdom for more auto waters!


          • #6
            Why is there fish in the horse's water tank?
            Even for the fish's sake, the water needs to be changed/filtered/tank cleaned and all.

            Put another tank with no fish!
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            • #7
              I have 100 and 40 gall stock tanks that get dumped and scrubbed probably every other day. I use a pressure washer nozzle and a steel wire scrubber, as they get nasty with the hay they drop in there, but it doesn't really take very long to do. I totally agree; if I wouldn't drink out of it, I figure they won't either and I want them drinking!

              Never heard of goldfish in a horse water tank....I think I would encourage them to live elsewhere so I can get that tank really clean! Or, as was suggested, get another tank for your horse (and probably the others!)


              • #8
                The goldfish eat mosquito larvae. I have two goldfish, Syd and Leo, and they overwinter in the tank, too. They sort of go to sleep at the bottom. The pet store lady told me not to feed them when they go torpid like that, as they can't digest food when their metabolism is so low. It seems to be working well. I've had them for a number of years and there are no little wrigglers in the water any more..
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                • #9
                  Depending on the temperature, I dump mine and bleach it at least once a week. When it starts to heat up, it gets dumped every night....mostly because I have one horse who loves to play in it and it turns into a muddy mess. I check the temp of the water too when I turn them out at night. Too hot and it gets dumped and refilled.


                  • #10
                    I've been using this method for several years without issue.

                    First, ask the BO if you can move the fish to a different tank.

                    Next, scrub out the tank as best you can.

                    Third, buy some "Sodium Dichlor" at a pool/spa dealer (or through the internet). What you are looking for is sodium dichloro-s-triazinetrione dihydrate, 99%. (Here's an example: http://www.spadepot.com/shop/Dichlor...b-P618C43.aspx). Don't buy anything that has added chemicals to reduce precipitants, as you don't need it. Just look for the 99% dichlor.

                    Last, refill the tank while adding ONE scant teaspoon of dichlor per 100 gallons of water.

                    Obviously, this will not prevent sludge building from food dropping out of the horses' mouths, but it will eliminate all algae.

                    Once you are on top of the algae, you.will.never.scrub.again.

                    My horses immediately drink from the tank as soon as I go through this process. I top off the tank all week. Once a week, I dump, spray (yes, SPRAY not SCRUB) out the hay, dirt and grass backwash, then refill with water and the added dichlor. (Obviously, this can be done more frequently if you have bigger messes.)

                    I've researched dichlor, and it is used by our military to clean uncertain water supplies. It's also used in the US to sanitize municipal water. It's also popular with survivalists.

                    Finally, it's DIRT CHEAP. I bought about a quart size for $7 and it lasts well over a year.
                    Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.


                    • #11
                      twelvegates....would the Dichlor work with an auto waterer do you think? I have about 7 large stock tanks and it is just way too difficult to clean them weekly. I do the best I can but in our hot climate, algae buildup is a major issue.


                      • #12
                        Twelve, that system does not cut down on the mosquito larvae does it?


                        • #13
                          Wow, live and learn! Hadn't heard of the goldfish idea but thats great! And good to know how to get rid of that $#%ing algae!


                          • #14
                            Dump and scrub at least once per week. Note: If your barn owner doesn't do this already, you are just $hit out of luck. They will think your request is ridiculous and offensive and think YOU are ridiculous if you want to put another tank next to the existing one. And even if there are NO goldfish, don't even think about cleaning it yourself!

                            In my experience, even moderately clean water is really hard to find at boarding barns.
                            Why must you chastise my brilliant idea with facts and logic? **picks up toys (and wine) and goes home**


                            • #15
                              I have a stock tank filter that sits in the bottom and filters the water, it is designed for livestock. Keeps the tank cleaner, longer.
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                              • #16
                                DB -- If you have a holding tank for the water, before it moves into the automatic waterers, I'm sure you could add it to the tank and it would work. If you want to try it in each automatic waterer, you'll have to do the math, figure out the gallons in each waterer, and dose accordingly (a smidgen per waterer). I suspect you might want to add it a bit more frequently.

                                TandL -- Good question. I haven't had any issues with mosquitos because I also run a stock tank filter, which keeps the water in motion. And I dump the water regularly. I doubt the larvae could survive with the chlorine, but have no data to back that up. It's so cheap, I wonder if it wouldn't just be worth experimenting to see if the "smell" would deter the mosquitos from depositing their offspring in the water.

                                Also, dichlor has a pH of about 7, so it's in the ideal range for horse preference.
                                Nothing with horses is ever easy or cheap. And if it is, you're doing it wrong. They always rip out part of your soul when they leave. I guess that's how they find us later.


                                • #17
                                  Yep, should have added in my original post it would end up being every couple of days for cleaning the tub in the summer.


                                  • Original Poster

                                    Thanks for all the ideas. I think the fish are supposed to eat mosquito larvae, but if I can dump the tank regularly than hopefully the suckahs (Mosquito larvae) don't stand a chance. May move da fisheys to another stock tank. Just want horsey to be happy.


                                    • #19
                                      Another thought is to look if it is the tank itself causing the problem. We use a combination of Rubbermaid black plastic tanks and white enameled bath tubs for holding livestock water. Once the warm weather comes in, the black tank could be freshly scrubbed and filled with nice clean water, and the herd will still want to drink from the cleaned bathtubs instead. I don't know if the black tank leaches a plastic taste/odor into the tank in the heat, if the white enamel simply keeps the water cooler, or a combination of both. Didn't have the problem when using galvanized metal tanks.
                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein



                                      • #20
                                        Question for fish people:
                                        Could you use algae-eaters in the tank? Would they replace larvae-eating goldfish, or just be added with them? Are there any kind of fish that eats both larvae AND algae that could be used?