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  • Who feeds Diatomaceous earth?

    I have just read that you can feed the food grade for a dewormer and for joint pain for your Dog? Does anyone?

    CODEX Food Grade fresh water DIATOMACEOUS EARTH?
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    I'm all for natural remedies but feeding a somehat jagged-textured clay?

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    • #3
      I had my horses on it and within 2 weeks 7 of 10 horses had major skin reaction. Don't know why but it has not happened since and I'm not willing to risk it again.
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      • #4
        It's not clay, DE is the fossilized bodies of diatoms, little freshwater critters. It's very high in silica, which is probably what caused the skin reaction. I have used it on fleas, worked tolerably well, but not great, we did have a heck of a problem tho.

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        • #5
          +1 ladybugred

          Be careful about breathing it in while you work with it.

          I found it works moderately well for fleas and use it more to control/prevent instead of treat.

          Works great on chickens, don't use it often on my big animals.

          Make sure you get food grade 100% DE or it can have some really nasty stuff in it.
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          • #6
            Yes, I forgot to mention that!!!!!! I had not been that careful about breathing it, and ended up with respritory infection type symptoms, shortness of breath,and lots off coughing.

            Also it MUST be food grade, also known as "fossil shell flour", the other stuff is treated and poisonous.

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            • #7
              it is classified as a clay, yes it's a fossil. Please see http://www.organic-creations.com/ser...rth/Categories

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              • #8
                Diatomaceous earth for deworming? Don't bother. Save your money, read the scientific literature, and get a product which is proven to work.
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                  Yea I thought it sounded "interesting"
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                  • #10
                    Yay - something I can talk about. We use food-grade diatomaceous earth here at my company. I can tell you...use food-grade for anything around the home/your animals. There are several grades out there including insecticidal and pool quality.

                    As far as feeding to remove worms - no idea. We use DE (food-grade) around our farm to cut down on insects and fleas around the dogs. It did not have a negative effect on our dogs' coats or skin, but I imagine perhaps a more sensitive animal may have issues?

                    As someone else said, diatomaceous earth is siliceous fossil meal: pulverised diatoms (remember those cool things you learned about in biology with the teeny tiny skeletons that looked like snowflakes under a microscope? Yeah...those.)

                    While DE isn't DANGEROUS, it is considered a respiratory irritant and can be a pain in the ass if inhaled. Talc powder and flour are also considered irritants though not nearly as harmful as DE. When using or handling DE, your best bet is to wear a mask and gloves (goggles if necessary,) and for topical application, we mix our DE with water so that the water harnesses the DE and prevents it from flying about as it does in powder form.

                    Be careful with external/around the home use as it kills bugs, but it kills bad and good bugs. It's non discriminating.
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                    • #11
                      I have used it for decades for deworming, treating flea infestations etc.

                      Works great, is inexpensive and works on fleas, ants and garden pests and worms. As someone said above, food grade is necessary, it is an irritant like any other powdered substance.

                      Try it. Many dewormers have lost their efficacy due to overuse.
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                      • #12
                        Its efficacy is due to its glass-like jagged edges, which cut and tear whatever it comes in contact with. Dangerous stuff.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by nightsong View Post
                          Its efficacy is due to its glass-like jagged edges, which cut and tear whatever it comes in contact with. Dangerous stuff.
                          I know people who use it as a deworming product for their horses. What you posted is my thoughts, and all I can think of when they talk about feeding it.

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                          • #14
                            That is absolutely correct. It has jagged edges that make tiny slits in insects' exoskeletons and basically dehydrates them. I would not feed it to an animal or a human, but obviously some do.
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                            • #15
                              Question on it; does it digest or does it sit in their system like sand does?

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by horsefaerie View Post
                                I have used it for decades for deworming, treating flea infestations etc.

                                Works great, is inexpensive and works on fleas, ants and garden pests and worms. As someone said above, food grade is necessary, it is an irritant like any other powdered substance.

                                Try it. Many dewormers have lost their efficacy due to overuse.

                                It does not "work on worms"
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                                • #17
                                  The last 2 years our barn has fed N.O.M.S. and uses predator fly control. These products used together has resulted in a huge reduction in flies (all types). When we go to shows, all of us and the horses complain about the flies. I am curious to see what happens this summer with the very mild winter we had this year.
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                                  • #18
                                    Gosh Grataan, I guess I better tell my vets that their fecals are wrong!

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by horsefaerie View Post
                                      Gosh Grataan, I guess I better tell my vets that their fecals are wrong!

                                      All of these years! Who knew!!
                                      How does a low fecal prove anything other than your horse has a low worm load?

                                      Some horses naturally are low shedders. Your horse(s) with good fecals could be in that group.

                                      I have two horses who time and time again show as zero on their fecals, I have never used diatomaceous earth and they only get dewormer product 2x per year. (And for the record, they live with a high shedder.)


                                      I am still waiting for one of the people who knows about this stuff to answer my question about it digesting. It just seems to me that it would be something that acts like ingested sand.

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                                      • #20
                                        In small pastures, I have walked around and sprinkled directly on the manure piles: The flies light on it, and - Bingo! Less fly population.
                                        Have no idea how that would effect manure/compost piles.

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