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Should I be worried about the neighbors red maple trees?

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  • #41
    Originally posted by Bacardi1 View Post
    I think that's going a bit too far. You can't expect your neighbors to dig up their landscaping simply because it doesn't jive with your horsekeeping. It's up to YOU to deal with the issue.

    And as for replacing maples with Bradford Pears?? Lousy choice. Bradford pears are short-lived shallow-rooted trees that, while pretty in spring, are considered an over-used landscaping nuisance.
    Plus those pretty Bradford Pears stink when they bloom. I call them the "sperm trees" because they smell like, well, semen. A development near us went crazy planting those things and the air positively REEKS in spring when the Bradfords bloom.

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    • #42
      It would be well worth the money to offer to replace the acer rubrum with a larger safe tree -- and to do the digging and replanting for them. The worst that can happen is that they say no.

      For minis or small ponies, because of their smaller size it only takes a very few leaves to be deadly -- I've heard as few as 4 leaves. Unless one considers their horse disposable, this is not worth the risk.
      They're not miniatures, they're concentrates.

      Born tongue-in-cheek and foot-in-mouth

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Bacardi1 View Post
        I think that's going a bit too far. You can't expect your neighbors to dig up their landscaping simply because it doesn't jive with your horsekeeping. It's up to YOU to deal with the issue.

        And as for replacing maples with Bradford Pears?? Lousy choice. Bradford pears are short-lived shallow-rooted trees that, while pretty in spring, are considered an over-used landscaping nuisance.

        I wouldn't EXPECT a neighbor to dig up their landscaping. I see nothing wrong with offering to replace a small tree if it's a danger, and I certainly wouldn't be offended if a neighbor asked me to do the same. Wouldn't bother me in the least, especially if they paid for it and did the work.

        Seems like your harsh response is meant to make me feel stupid. I was simply offering up another suggestion.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
          You would think. However a year ago in the fall, my guys pushed down a fence to get to the neighbor's burning bush. Turns out they're mildly toxic. Three had the runs, but the fourth was very sick and ended up with laminitis. No one could believe it, my pasture looked like a golf course.
          Yes - "Burning Bush" is another bad one. My husband really likes the looks of them, but we decided against planting. Plus they're considered an invasive thanks to birds spreading the seed & how easily they sprout.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by wcporter View Post
            This thread is 9 months old....??
            Uh, but with still relevant information, unlike a lot of old threads that get dug up on here.

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            • #46
              Heavensdew what did you do? It's been 10 months, how did Autumn go?

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              • #47
                Originally posted by wcporter View Post
                This thread is 9 months old....??
                Yes, it is. I did a search for maple trees before starting a brand new thread and replied to this one since it already had multiple posts worth of good information. Isn't that the point of researching the archives before creating a new post on a topic that has already been discussed?
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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Mara View Post
                  Plus those pretty Bradford Pears stink when they bloom. I call them the "sperm trees" because they smell like, well, semen. A development near us went crazy planting those things and the air positively REEKS in spring when the Bradfords bloom.
                  OMG! We call them "cum trees" too. Bahahaaa! It's AWFUL. We had one right outside our bedroom window at our old house and I hated to even open the windows in the spring.
                  A good horseman doesn't have to tell anyone...the horse already knows.

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                  • #49
                    You know, it takes "A LOT" for a horse to inject "3 pounds" of leaves to become lethal..... I mean, don't be stupid to fee them to the horses intentionally. A few blown in leaves? I wouldn't worry about it. I got a mature red maple in my front yard where the occasional escapees will roam into and one time one was playing with the maple before I shooed him off. None had suffered any ill effect yet.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Gloria View Post
                      You know, it takes "A LOT" for a horse to inject "3 pounds" of leaves to become lethal..... I mean, don't be stupid to fee them to the horses intentionally. A few blown in leaves? I wouldn't worry about it. I got a mature red maple in my front yard where the occasional escapees will roam into and one time one was playing with the maple before I shooed him off. None had suffered any ill effect yet.
                      I'm guessing that your tree is not acer rubrum, which is the deadly one. Ironically, the maples that are red throughout the summer ARE NOT the deadly red maple. As pointed out above, acer rubrum is green with only a slightly red tinge until autumn.

                      The key word in the above quote is "yet."
                      They're not miniatures, they're concentrates.

                      Born tongue-in-cheek and foot-in-mouth

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                      • #51
                        My next door neighbor lost his two draft ponies after they grazed during the day in their paddock which had a red maple tree outside the fence about 20' away.

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                        • #52
                          Originally posted by Bacardi1 View Post
                          And you'll be saying that until one of your own horses eats something & becomes ill &/or dies that could have been avoided. Then you'll be back here singing another tune. Or perhaps not.

                          Err on the side of caution. My gang is well-fed, but we DO have Wild Cherry & Red Maple bordering the fenceline. And I DO go out & pick up/rake up wind-blown branches & leaves asap.

                          Wild Cherry & Red Maple toxicity isn't an old wive's tale - it's TOTALLY DOCUMENTED. Don't take the possibilities lightly, regardless of naysayers.
                          No one is implying it's an old wives tale-- I have been apart of treating horses for maple leaf toxicity in my years working at New Bolton Center... not to mention all the horses we saw with "mystery" poisoning symptoms from who knows what plant. I've witnessed walnut-induced laminitis. Farms I worked at lost foals to tent worms in cherry trees. Heck, I own have a horse who gorges on acorns until she shows symptoms of acorn toxicity. I don't think I'm being laissez-faire-- I think I'm practicing common sense. Don't plant red maples as shade trees in your pasture, but also don't forgo a perfectly good farm on the chance that the neighbor's leaves MIGHT blow in the pasture.
                          Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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                          • #53
                            Originally posted by susanne View Post
                            It would be well worth the money to offer to replace the acer rubrum with a larger safe tree -- and to do the digging and replanting for them. The worst that can happen is that they say no.

                            For minis or small ponies, because of their smaller size it only takes a very few leaves to be deadly -- I've heard as few as 4 leaves. Unless one considers their horse disposable, this is not worth the risk.
                            You heard wrong--more like 3 pounds of dried leaves for the average horse.
                            Ponies proportionately less. But still considerably more than 4 leaves.
                            "It's like a Russian nesting doll of train wrecks."--CaitlinandTheBay

                            ...just settin' on the Group W bench.

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                            • #54
                              Originally posted by susanne View Post
                              I'm guessing that your tree is not acer rubrum, which is the deadly one. Ironically, the maples that are red throughout the summer ARE NOT the deadly red maple. As pointed out above, acer rubrum is green with only a slightly red tinge until autumn.

                              The key word in the above quote is "yet."
                              Yeah. It is, Bloody Queen. The point is, it takes three pounds, not one, or two, or three leaves. Be careful, but don't get paranoid about it.

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                              • #55
                                Originally posted by Gloria View Post
                                Yeah. It is, Bloody Queen. The point is, it takes three pounds, not one, or two, or three leaves. Be careful, but don't get paranoid about it.
                                Sorry "Gloria", but "Bloody Queen" is NOT the red maple we're all talking about here. Do some research before spouting. The red maple that's toxic to livestock is NOT RED. Again - NOT RED in color. It has a slight reddish tinge to the leaf stems & GREEN LEAVES that are silvery on the underside. While there may not be a reason for folks to get "paranoid" if they have "Bloody Queen" on their property (although Japanese maples also contain some toxicity), there IS reason for folks to be "paranoid" about the toxic variety of acer rubrum. Please do some RESEARCH before telling folks they're being paranoid about a toxic plant.

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                                • #56
                                  Can you plant a thorny hedge along your perimeter to keep the neighbors out? Something like pyracanthra or holly.

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                                  • #57
                                    Originally posted by LauraKY View Post
                                    Can you plant a thorny hedge along your perimeter to keep the neighbors out? Something like pyracanthra or holly.
                                    Both toxic... just sayin'...
                                    Don't fall for a girl who fell for a horse just to be number two in her world... ~EFO

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