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  • Rear Tack in Slant Load

    Looking for pros and cons of having a rear tack room in a slant load trailer vs. just having the space completely open. Some questions:

    How much of a pain in the a-- is it to remove the collapsible partition if you don't want to use the rear tack?

    If you simply collapse the partition when not in use, how much road noise does it generate when towing and does it get in the way at all?

    If you never had a rear tack, would you get one in a new trailer?
    If so why?

    Thanks for any input.

    Mary in Western NY
    http://www.bpequine.com

  • #2
    Depending on the brand of trailer the rear tack is very easy to remove or collapse (I have a Featherlite and its easy). Some horses do not like loading when it is open, some could care less. Personally I never put tack there but do put a muck tub, lead ropes, extra halters, pitchfork etc. We have a camera with sound in ours and I have never heard any extra road noise from it either open or shut (but we do secure ours).

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    • #3
      I have a rear tack in my 3h exiss. I moved the saddle rack to the unfinished dressing room to use as a larger tack room/storage.

      I almost never collapse the rear tack area; It's always full of extra hay bags to switch out during the trip, hay for the shows, water for trail rides, spare shavings, etc. I like it because this way my show clothes/tack/whathaveyous in my tack/dressing room aren't always covered in little bits of flyaway hay.

      The ONLY time I've collapsed it down was to move a mare and foal. It took about 5 seconds to collapse against the wall, and was not as noisy going down the road as I thought it was going to be.

      The cons: It's a PITA to remove the back tack and center bar for the doors if you have a real problem loader (or have to move a manure spreader... just saying).

      I always go by the more storage space, the better.... Hope this helps!

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      • #4
        I've had 2 slants and rear tacks in both. I camp and the storage is a must for me. My current trailer is a weekender, so the rear tack holds all my horse tack, chairs, tire saver, step, hoses, tree savers, fence tape for the electric fence, etc And that doesn't count the saddles, pads, bridles, halters, medicines, brushes, etc I had 3 brush trays (added 2) and about 10 bridle hooks.

        As far as folding it up, I have done that one time with each traielr due to a horse that refused to back out of the trailer. I do have an escape door on the first stall. You have to empty the rear tack, take out the bolts holding the hinges and fold it up. then replace all the tack. Not something I'd want to do on a regular basis. Each trailer may vary on how the rear tack folds, but probably not by much. I use my trailer pretty much every weekend. I camped last weekend for 3 days and am heading out Fri for a 9 day trip, so the rear tack stays full of stuff.

        As far as leaving it in place folded, I think you would need to attach it somehow to keep it from opening up. I have 2 saddle racks, so you'd need to take those out if closing it up or removing it. If you don't want or need a rear tack, you'd probably be better off getting one without it or remove it, store it and don't use it. I personally couldn't do without mine.

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        • #5
          I have a 3-H slant and DH took out the rear tack to help someone move some furniture.

          He never put it back and I just realized upon reading this thread it has been over a year. I love the extra room loading and unloading without it. Tack goes up front and I guess I have never missed it.

          Don't know how hard it was to remove as I wasn't there.

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          • #6
            We had a slant load with a fixed tack compartment in the back. BAD idea. The horses never learned the concept of loading in it. We created loading problems every time. It was even harder to unload them than it was to load. We traded the darn thing in.

            A friend had a swing out one and that was actually quite clever.

            Fixed tack compartments in a slant load require the last horse to load and turn immediately. If you have a hesitant loader, it may look in, see that divider 3 feet from his nose, and conclude there is no room in there for a whole horse. They had a hard time grasping the concept that the horse steps to the left. We got it figured out well enough that we could load and unload, but decided it wasn't worth the hassle. They were obedient, just not happy. Unloading, it not only requires the last horse to make a turn while backing out, but also decreases visibility for all horses unloading.
            Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans

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              Rear Tack

              Thanks guys for your input. Sounds like most of you use the rear tack.

              I've never had one and when I go to horse shows with one horse, I use my trailer as a box stall. My horse loves being able to move around and look out the back as well as the front/side and I hang a hay bag and water for him on the top edge of the ramp. Obviously, I can't do that with a rear tack if I'm using it as a rear tack.

              Horseshrink, interesting that you had it but don't miss it. What about the hardware (hinges, latches) used for the rear tack that are still in the trailer? Do they get in the way at all?

              Another question for those that use the rear tack for say a pitchfork or broom....would you be able to leave those in there when you collapse the rear tack?

              Sorry for all the questions but I've never had one and need to make sure that if I get one on my new trailer, it won't be in my way.

              Thanks again,

              Mary in Western NY
              http://www.bpequine.com
              Last edited by Black Points; Feb. 15, 2012, 03:46 PM. Reason: missing signature

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              • #8
                My two horse b.p. has a collapsible rear tack. I have never used it in ten years. I prefer the open feeling, have a large tack room in front of the trailer that's sufficient for my needs, so I keep it in the collapsed position.

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                • #9
                  We have shipped horses with the rear tack in and using it as an open "box stall" we just removed the two dividers, hung buckets and hay and horses were quite comfy.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Black Points View Post
                    Another question for those that use the rear tack for say a pitchfork or broom....would you be able to leave those in there when you collapse the rear tack?
                    No, once the tack is collapsed (at least on my trailer), it folds flat and secures against the wall. There would be no place to store anything.
                    I formed a box stall at one point by taking the last divider out to make a double sized 'stall'. Now, I prefer to have my horses tied in so that my jerk of a gelding can't nip at his neighbors over/under the divider.

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                    • #11
                      I have a big horse. I'll be looking for a trailer sometime this spring. I will NOT consider one with a rear tack. Feels too restrictive.

                      L

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                      • #12
                        Black Points: I guess all of the hardware was in/on the tack door? No hardware left in trailer except something permanently attached to the side wall, but small.

                        Interestingly, I never used it for tack and had not had the trailer very long before DH removed it. So, maybe I would like it...don't know. I have a very large, extended dressing room, so plenty of storage up front plus the gooseneck.

                        But, I do love the extra room when loading and unloading. My problem is that it is a step up and although my mare is very good at loading/unloading, I think I would prefer a ramp so I could turn her around and walk her out.

                        I'm trying to figure out if a ramp can be installed after-market?

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                        • #13
                          Yes a ramp can be installed after market, but there are not too many places I would trust to do it. Ask in your area...

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                          • #14
                            Our 4-horse has the rear tack. It's collapsible and we do occasionally collapse it. We rarely use the last stall, and it can be a real pain to load/unload a horse in the rear stall if they are large or inexperienced. They have to go in and get out on their own, which I know all of them should do, but in real life that is not always the case.

                            I definitely like the space for muck buckets and other bulky, grungy stuff. We also have extra halters and leads and basic first aid in there. I haven't stored tack in there for a long time, it stays much cleaner in the front tack.

                            I have been meaning to get a supply of weather stripping type rubbery material and try to dampen the rattling bits in both of our trailers. Amazing how noisy they are inside.

                            Also, if you're trailer shopping for a slant load, make sure your bigger horses fit! With draft crosses, we ended up having to get an 8' wide trailer and they're still a bit crowded against the rear wall with their hind legs. The first slant trailer we bought was too small and we had to resell it. The stall length is important.

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                            • #15
                              I have seen them used and have used them and would never own one. Confining and dangerous if any thing goes wrong. I want the option to turn horses around if required in an emergency, and I also want to get myself out if I am in. IMO they are not worth the increased risk. I use the bed of the truck for forks/buckets/stuff I do not want in the trailer.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Black Points View Post
                                Looking for pros and cons of having a rear tack room in a slant load trailer vs. just having the space completely open. Some questions:

                                How much of a pain in the a-- is it to remove the collapsible partition if you don't want to use the rear tack?

                                If you simply collapse the partition when not in use, how much road noise does it generate when towing and does it get in the way at all?

                                If you never had a rear tack, would you get one in a new trailer?
                                If so why?

                                Thanks for any input.

                                Mary in Western NY
                                http://www.bpequine.com
                                I have a Double D trailer and our rear tack compartment is on hinges. It swings completely out of the way without having to empty it so the back is fully open like a stock trailer to load. Nice feature and very convenient.

                                I'd not want one that would not swing out like that. I think it makes it a PITA to load into a narrow space.

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                                • #17
                                  We have a 4 horse - with a stallion divider for the first section by the emergency exit - so usually we use this section for the dirty stuff - hay, buckets, shavings and all the tools.

                                  I say get the tack room and tack it out if you don't need it.

                                  If we have 4 horses in we use the rear tack and put the stuff in there. Taking it out makes that rear stall larger and the horse can actually turn to come out. The only thing I don't like about taking it out is you don't have the butt bar.

                                  Don't use the rear for tack

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                                  • #18
                                    If you need to remove mine takes about 30 seconds. I wouldn't have one with out it.

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                                    • #19
                                      I have a 3 horse slant w/ rear tack and I use the rear tack as there are no saddle racks in the dressing room and the dressing room short wall is about 1 ft, its tiny, my problem loader actually loves the trailer, go figure, but he usually gets the middle spot

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                                      • #20
                                        My trailer is without--saddle rack in tack room that swings out. Nice to know they can be folded up and secured. Wanted the ability to turn horse around and walk out forward. Had a tough loader and this worked well for him. Mine's a step up but a very low step up. Would like to have some sort of butt bar for second horse, especially since I have a large single door in the back.

                                        If I was camping, traveling a lot, the rear could be very handy but then I would probably want a three horse for the two guys so the second one in wouldn't feel so confined.

                                        Someone recently posted some pictures of a couple of trailers where the
                                        dressing room wall could be swung back against the side, opening up the trailer for other uses. Like taking the Gator to the shop, etc. If there is ever another trailer in my future, that will be high on my list of must haves.

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