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    Barn is going to be 38 X 84 feet with 7 10 X 12 stalls on each side. 10 feet wide. There is no ceiling, just the roof and the rafters will be 10 feet up in the air. How many lights to make it comfortable down the side?
    Does anyone put lights every other store in the front corner? We've done that in the past and had plenty of light in the stalls but I don't want to shoot myself later! However I also have a lot of other things that need tending to money wise. The 10 X 14 area tack would have it's own light along with the 10 X 14 area you walk into.

    Thoughts?

    I'm thinking on the run in area that is 8 X 84 I'll put three or four down the side.
    Maria Hayes-Frosty Oak Stables
    Home to All Eyez On Me, 1998 16.2 Cleveland Bay Sporthorse Stallion
    & FrostyOak Hampton 2008 Pure Cleveland Bay Colt
    www.frostyoaks.com

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    Always put in more then you think you want, and put in extra switches so that you can turn off those you don't need to save electricity.

    I would definitely put a light in every stall. If there is a health emergency you don't want to be fumbling with a flash-light if it all possible. Also if it's a cloudy day you need to be able to see to clean your stalls.
    "For some people it's not enough to just be a horse's bum, you have to be sea biscuit's bum" -anon.
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      #3
      Originally posted by Nes View Post
      Always put in more then you think you want, and put in extra switches so that you can turn off those you don't need to save electricity.

      I would definitely put a light in every stall. If there is a health emergency you don't want to be fumbling with a flash-light if it all possible. Also if it's a cloudy day you need to be able to see to clean your stalls.
      So where would you put a light in every stall? See I liked the idea of them in between the stalls to minimize breakage. I think in the center even 10 foot rafters you are going to have issues. Would you put them in between every stall to the front?
      Maria Hayes-Frosty Oak Stables
      Home to All Eyez On Me, 1998 16.2 Cleveland Bay Sporthorse Stallion
      & FrostyOak Hampton 2008 Pure Cleveland Bay Colt
      www.frostyoaks.com

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      • #4
        Can you put them higher than the lowest part of the rafter? If you have a roof with a peak, then you probably have the triangular trusses up there and you don't have to put the lights on the absolute lowest part of the rafters. They might not be angled exactly right but they would still work.

        I have one light above each stall, but dead center. I would prefer two offset lights, so maybe the corners of the stalls?. When it's dead center, there's lots of shadows. Outside the stalls I have them spaced much further apart, but then I throw those 200 watt bulbs in them so they are really bright! I agree, plan for more lights than you need, you won't be sorry. Even if you just run the wire and don't put the actual fixtures in, that would make it easy to go back and stick a light somewhere.

        Why is your run-in area only 8 feet deep? Do you think that's enough? Mine is 12 feet and wind/snow still blows all the way to the back of it sometimes when winds get swirly (the run-in opens to the east, but wind will do funny things).

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          I would put them in every stall in a livestock approved light.

          I find light from the middle much easier to work from (in the stall) then light to one side, where you're creating bigger shadows when you stand in the way of the light. I like old pony's suggestion if you're going to put them to the sides, put one on each side.

          I should also mention, my hubs in an electrician, so I wouldn't exactly go the cheapest route in my own barn. More over-kill .
          "For some people it's not enough to just be a horse's bum, you have to be sea biscuit's bum" -anon.
          Nes' Farm Blog ~ DesigNes.ca
          Need You Now Equine

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            #6
            Originally posted by oldpony66 View Post
            Why is your run-in area only 8 feet deep? Do you think that's enough? Mine is 12 feet and wind/snow still blows all the way to the back of it sometimes when winds get swirly (the run-in opens to the east, but wind will do funny things).
            It's not really a run in shed, it's an overhang off each side, outside the stalls. 8 foot overhang on each side $500 each, if I made them 10 foot, it changed the angle of the roof and went up to $3150 each, not hard to decide I can live with 8 foot. I have an 8 foot overhang at the one barn I rent and it works just fine for the horses to get out of the wind, etc.

            I never thought about putting the lights higher...brilliant suggestion. My only concern would be if I do that I'm going to have a beam/rafter going down below it causing shadows possibly. But if I did in between the stalls, that wouldn't be a problem. My husband can do the electrical work. So i agree, I'm running the wire, what are 8 more light fixtures? Maybe 80.00. In the long run better to add more then be sorry I can't see!
            Maria Hayes-Frosty Oak Stables
            Home to All Eyez On Me, 1998 16.2 Cleveland Bay Sporthorse Stallion
            & FrostyOak Hampton 2008 Pure Cleveland Bay Colt
            www.frostyoaks.com

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            • #7
              The question is not so much, "how many lights" as "how much light"? The bare minimum would be 40 watts of fluorescent per stall and I would really recommend 60-80 watts of fluorescents per stall, centered over the stall fronts would light both your isle and stall nicely.

              We use a combination of fluorescent tubes and CFLs (screw in fluorescents) depending on the desired location. One thing that is nice (if your fronts don't go to the ceiling, which it sounds like) about locating the lights roughly over the stall fronts is, in addition to lighting the stalls really well, the isle is side-lit rather than top-lit. If fixtures are centered over the isle you'll find your farrier with poorly lit hooves. On the other hand, with light cast from the edges of the isle the lighting is much nicer to work in.

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              • #8
                More

                But also have the small 'night light' in the barn aisle, just enough to keep you from tripping, but not bright enough to wake anybody up, for the quick check.

                also, on another thread somebody mentioned the awesome lightshow when regular fluroscents fail in spectacular manner...forgot who or what thread though...but pick your fixtures accordingly.
                Originally posted by BigMama1
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                GNU Terry Prachett

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                • #9
                  Hey AspenLucas, did you find a new farm or did it work out with the old setup?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by aspenlucas View Post
                    It's not really a run in shed, it's an overhang off each side, outside the stalls. 8 foot overhang on each side $500 each, if I made them 10 foot, it changed the angle of the roof and went up to $3150 each, not hard to decide I can live with 8 foot. I have an 8 foot overhang at the one barn I rent and it works just fine for the horses to get out of the wind, etc.

                    I never thought about putting the lights higher...brilliant suggestion. My only concern would be if I do that I'm going to have a beam/rafter going down below it causing shadows possibly. But if I did in between the stalls, that wouldn't be a problem. My husband can do the electrical work. So i agree, I'm running the wire, what are 8 more light fixtures? Maybe 80.00. In the long run better to add more then be sorry I can't see!
                    OK, gotcha on the overhang. My barn is 60 feet long and I only have 3 lights down the side that I need light on, and it's plenty. And those are just regular lights too.

                    Yes, putting them higher will do some shadows, just put more lights in! If you ever think you have too much light, you can just leave a burnt out bulb in the socket, or use less wattage. Plan now for some exterior flood lights too. we didn't and had to go back and put them in afterward.

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