• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Anti Kicking device

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Anti Kicking device

    Anyone have experience with the Quick Kick Stall system? some friends of mine are thinking of getting one and i wondered if there were any experienced users on here. any other devices that you would recommend?

    Thanks!

    Leslie

  • #2
    kick chains?

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by karlymacrae View Post
      kick chains?
      I'd just try this before dumping the money into any sort of expensive system.

      Comment


      • #4
        Kick chains work wonders.
        I am on my phone 90% of the time. Please ignore typos, misplaced lower case letters, and the random word butchered by autocowreck.

        Comment


        • #5
          Originally posted by FLeventer View Post
          Kick chains work wonders.
          Unless you own the mares stabled behind us at an event a few years back. Chains didn't seem to do a darn thing for them..lol.
          Rhode Islands are red;
          North Hollands are blue.
          Sorry my thoroughbreds
          Stomped on your roo. Originally Posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' :

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by FLeventer View Post
            Kick chains work wonders.
            They also split open the thin skin of cannon bones and make horses fearful of anyone down around their lower legs.

            I was advised (by a very well known trainer) to put them on my kicker. I did it once, for 15 minutes. The chains split his legs open. He was kicking because he had EPSM, not because he was a bad horse.

            Chances are if you look hard enough you can figure out the reason behind the kicking and take measures to change the behavior.....
            Proud and achy member of the Eventing Grannies clique.

            Comment


            • #7
              The ones I have put the kicking chains on were being obnoxious. Things were not being done to suit them.

              I would agree that kick chains are a wonderful device, can change obnoxious to pleasant, on horses with an attitude.

              Never heard of the system you named.

              Comment


              • #8
                concrete stalls - they do however know when they are not in concrete stalls.

                Comment


                • #9
                  I knew a horse that kicked repeatedly. Very annoying to everyone at the barn. BO decided it wasn't that he was kicking at anyone, he just liked the sound. So, she put up heavy rubber mats on the wall he kicked at. Worked like a charm, no more kicking.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    I had a horse that pounded on his feeder with his front foot...sort of the opposite problem but equally irritating, especially at 2 in the morning.

                    I got a horse shock collar out of desperation, and followed their instructions to the "t", including setting aside one day to do nothing but monitor his pounding. I zapped him twice, and he stopped. Hasn't done it again in six months. I've officially decided he's cured.

                    I couldn't believe it, but it worked like a charm. And I zapped him on the lowest setting, one I tried on myself just to see what the buzz would be.

                    I was desperate, and it let me keep him stead of having to find him a new home. My neighbors are too close to have that behavior continue.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by saddleup View Post
                      I got a horse shock collar out of desperation, and followed their instructions to the "t", including setting aside one day to do nothing but monitor his pounding. I zapped him twice, and he stopped. Hasn't done it again in six months. I've officially decided he's cured.
                      What system did you use?
                      Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                      "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by RiverBendPol View Post
                        They also split open the thin skin of cannon bones and make horses fearful of anyone down around their lower legs.

                        I was advised (by a very well known trainer) to put them on my kicker. I did it once, for 15 minutes. The chains split his legs open. He was kicking because he had EPSM, not because he was a bad horse.

                        Chances are if you look hard enough you can figure out the reason behind the kicking and take measures to change the behavior.....
                        I have never had any kick chains split skin. You need to use smooth chain links, not to heavy and not too light.

                        My ASB mare used to wear kick chains and we just started putting them on a Morgan mare in my barn....tired of replacing broken boards between stalls. She kicks and slams her body at feeding time.
                        Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.
                        Bernard M. Baruch

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by DrivingQueen View Post
                          Anyone have experience with the Quick Kick Stall system? some friends of mine are thinking of getting one and i wondered if there were any experienced users on here. any other devices that you would recommend?

                          Thanks!

                          Leslie

                          This is the system. I would not spend that much money for something that is just going to make more work by soaking the stall floor.
                          Every man has a right to his opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.
                          Bernard M. Baruch

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            We have one

                            One of my clients bought the quick kick system from Dover for her very aggressive kicker... he was literally kicking his hind shoes off into the aisle way of the barn. Very aggressive and territorial of his stall, no physical issues (although it probably would have developed into issues if left unresolved)

                            The system works great, he stopped kicking within three days and it's been at least two months now no kicking.

                            There are two sensors that you attach to the stall walls, the unit is attached to the bars of the stall and when the horse kicks, the system makes a buzzing noise and then two quick pules of water shoot out in the direction of the sensor closest to where the horse kicked. Stall does not get wet, not really enough water coming out. Owner charges the unit once a week and refills the water reservoir at the same time. But he hasn't really needed it, but it's nice that even if he kicks in the middle of the night, he doesn't get away with it!

                            Fabulous invention.. have another client who is probably getting one for her horse to now that we know it works so well. Wish I had know about this years ago.
                            http://www.windsweptfarmllc.com

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              I think I'd rather make a soft feeder than electrocute a horse repeatedly.
                              ... _. ._ .._. .._

                              Comment


                              • #16
                                I have never had my chains split the skin. I used them during feeding time when he kicked and then took them off after. He stopped kicking when they were on. I did not have to worry about him killing himself when he kicks through the wood.

                                Maybe the pair you had were different then mine, but if they had split the skin that I would have never used them.
                                I am on my phone 90% of the time. Please ignore typos, misplaced lower case letters, and the random word butchered by autocowreck.

                                Comment


                                • #17
                                  I got the Vicebreaker H2 by Tri-tronics, from gundogsupply.com

                                  They have a website that's helpful, and I called and asked a few questions before I ordered it.

                                  Comment


                                  • #18
                                    Is good old fashioned pasture an option?
                                    Nudging "Almost Heaven" a little closer still...
                                    http://www.wvhorsetrainer.com

                                    Comment


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by saddleup View Post
                                      I got the Vicebreaker H2 by Tri-tronics, from gundogsupply.com

                                      They have a website that's helpful, and I called and asked a few questions before I ordered it.
                                      So... did it work, or don't you know yet?
                                      Approved helmet: Every time; every ride.
                                      "When a sport gets to be predictable it ceases to be fun." - RAR's wise brother

                                      Comment


                                      • #20
                                        It worked. I zapped him two times on the same day, and he hasn't pounded since. It's been six months.

                                        Comment

                                        Working...
                                        X