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  • EBay Horse Trailer purchase

    Hi All:
    I found my dream trailer on eBay--I bid, lost, and then was contacted by the seller (through eBay) saying that the original buyer had fallen through and did i want to make the purchase for the amount I bid.

    It's an incredibly good price. I'm an eBay newbie--have never (yes, never!) purchased anything, let alone a $13k trailer although I look at stuff constantly.

    The seller seems on the up and up--has 100% positive feedback rating--and wants to do everything through EBay and Paypal.

    Is there anything else I should be aware of? Any advice?

    Is is possible to look up VIN numbers on horse trailers? How? What would I be looking for?
    I've entered the VIN on edmunds.com and gotten no hits.

    BTW, it's a 2007 Sundowner, 2 horse gooseneck. $13k.

  • #2
    no way

    I believe it's a scam.


    • #3
      I did similar. I dutifully waited until the auction ended and then e-mailed the seller. I asked if I could treat his opening price as the asking price.

      He said yes and I drove 5 hours to come see it. We made a handshake deal in his driveway; he wouldn't take a deposit while I got the cashier's check and all.

      In short, this can work. Ideally, you'd go to see it and meet the seller in person. Asking for the VIN will tell you some of what you want to know. Or see if you can have a local person (a COTHer?) do the meet-n-greet and inspection with the seller. In some ways, this is more about figuring out how honest the seller is.

      If the seller is sorta close and you are 99% sure you want it, perhaps you could induce him to meet you at a location somewhere between your locations. After all, he has saved a bundle on Ebay and Paypal fees, so his profit will go up if he deals privately with you. He technically has some money to put into this.

      Trailers are pretty simple machines. If you don't see anything really ugly on this one.... if it has been cleaned and presented well, you can assume it was decently maintained. But do ask. And to be fair to the seller, look into the stuff about Sundowner frames and powdercoating before you leap and ask him to make a deal with you.
      The armchair saddler
      Politically Pro-Cat


      • #4
        I've bought tons of stuff on eBay and had excellent luck. But I wouldn't spend that amount of money unless I could go there in person to exchange money for trailer. If you can do that, you could consider it.


        • #5
          PS-- re: scams and all.

          Screw ebay and paypal. The dude can take a cashier's check from your bank. I offered to write my trailer's seller a deposit check and showed him one of mine. I told him I'd get him a cashier's check from the same bank. Clearly I was on the up and up.

          You do have the upper hand right now and they seller does stand to save in fees if you guys do it the old-fashioned way when cashier's checks actually meant something. If he doesn't want to do this and you point out that he gets his ass covered for less than it would cost him to use Paypal, then you can cry scam.
          The armchair saddler
          Politically Pro-Cat


          • #6
            Okay, I looked, and this is the only 2007 2-horse Sundowner trailer I can find that ended recently:

            And it's now been relisted:

            Is this it? On the prior listing, the highest bid was only $6,100, not $13K.

            That said, the seller does look legit as s/he is an RV dealer - however, how is s/he doing it "through" eBay if the highest bid was only $6,100?

            To do it legitimately through eBay, they would have to relist it at the agreed-upon price for you to "Buy It Now" since eBay's "Second Chance Offer" wouldn't apply since the last bid price was lower than the seller would accept.

            Be very careful with this. This could very well be a "highjacker" trying to pull a number on you. Contact the seller via eBay (use the current listing) to see if s/he is really the one contacting you!
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            • Original Poster

              I believe she's in Canada. She checked into the shipping already and it was only $560 (she must be in Western Canada).

              HPFarmette, why so sure it's a scam? Because of the price? I'm just asking--want to be educated.

              I'll ask her about the cashier's check thing.

              There was a photograph of the VIN plate in the listing. I copied it down and typed it into various searches and came up with nothing.

              Any other way to search? My local Sundowner dealer is closed today, otherwise I'd call him directly for advice.


              • #8
                Friend of mine sold a 4* 3 horse slant gooseneck on ebay for $7500. It was easily worth a good bit more. If she'd have offered it to me for that price, I'd have snapped it up. It was a WONDERFUL trailer. Not that old at the time, either. I still yearn for that trailer.

                Ebay trailers for good prices aren't always scams.
                "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
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                • Original Poster


                  Anyone in Ocala?

                  That's where it is. She says it is being detailed and will be ready on Weds. for a look-see if there's someone out there who can take a look.


                  • #10
                    Wait a sec-- dealer is in Western Canada and trailer is in Ocala?
                    The armchair saddler
                    Politically Pro-Cat


                    • #11
                      It's possible - there are a ton of Canadians in Ocala. May be the dealer the owner bought the trailer from and they just want to deal with someone they know.


                      • #12
                        I wouldn't pay 13k for a 2007 2 horse Sundowner. Look up all the threads here about Sundowners and rust/electrolysis, especially from that period. It would be like buying a used Toyota from the engine sludge era. The Sundowners had an engineering and manufacturing flaw which makes buying one a very risky proposition.

                        Heck, I wouldn't pay 13k for any Sundowner from then.
                        "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay."
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by JanWeber View Post
                          It's possible - there are a ton of Canadians in Ocala. May be the dealer the owner bought the trailer from and they just want to deal with someone they know.
                          I know. I was asking myself "What two things would I need to see in order to believe this wasn't a stolen or fake-VINed trailer?" I thought "I'd want to see the original title next to the VIN plate." How to do that when owner and vehicle are so far apart? Hmm. That's a puzzler.
                          The armchair saddler
                          Politically Pro-Cat


                          • Original Poster


                            Thanks everyone. Great info.

                            I was mistaken about Canada. She's in Ocala.
                            I did as advised by Liberty and contacted the seller through her listing. She responded through her listing.

                            I think she's legit. Now the question is, the price. I will call my local guy in the am and see what he thinks. He's an honest guy and has been servicing my two horse for years.


                            • #15
                              I know 2 people who got scammed buying horse trailers on ebay.Be careful.


                              • #16
                                If you go through ebay you *should* be protected by them. I wouldn't suggest any wheeling or dealing outside ebay *unless* you get to meet her in person, look at the trailer, and hand over a cashier's check.
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                                • #17
                                  I wouldn't hesitate to buy a horse trailer through eBay, but I'd go through eBay and PayPal -- not a check of any kind, etc. PayPal and eBay have buyer protection. I'd check seller's rating and ask lots of questions. Have seller re-list with Buy It Now at the price you agreed upon and snatch it up.

                                  We bought our RV through eBay, but the seller was only 45 minutes away.
                                  "If you can't feed 'em, don't breed 'em."


                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by eesterson View Post
                                    Anyone in Ocala?

                                    That's where it is. She says it is being detailed and will be ready on Weds. for a look-see if there's someone out there who can take a look.
                                    I live about 30min from Ocala. Shoot me a PM if you would like me to take a look.
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                                    • #19
                                      maybe I...

                                      jumped to conclusions but there was that other thread on Off Course about Sundowner trailer scams.


                                      • #20
                                        Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                                        I live about 30min from Ocala. Shoot me a PM if you would like me to take a look.
                                        Please take Nootka up on the offer about physically going and seeing this trailer.
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