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There's a Gator in our pond Update and question for 2Jakes

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  • There's a Gator in our pond Update and question for 2Jakes

    We have a small pond on our place right where I keep my horses. Last Friday morning, I was feeding and watering and the horses and went to the breaker box next to the pond to shut the pump off. One of the dogs was splashing around in the edge of the pond. I looked over at her and there in the middle of the pond was an alligator! I called Sadie out of the pond and left. I called the Game & Fish people and they came out that evening to try to catch and relocate him. We didn't have any luck. They said he would most likely leave in a few days. But Wally is still in the pond. He's about 4' long and the G&C people said he'd weigh around 35-40#. They said not to worry too much about the dogs since my dogs are large and weigh about as much or more than the gator. I'm still keeping them away from the pond and locking Sadie up since she'd be the one most likely to try to confront him. Our pond is one of the few places that still has water since I normally pump water into it but since my pump isn't working at full capacity I've not been running water into the pond lately so it is drying up. As it dries, Wally will either move on or be easier to catch and relocate.
    Last edited by wireweiners; Oct. 17, 2011, 04:16 PM. Reason: update notice
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    You have ALLIGATORS in Arkansas?? WTH?
    I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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    • #3
      I would very much worry about my dogs with an alligator in the pond. I've seen an alligator launch out of the water and grab a dog off of the dock before. There is a wives' tale around here that alligators love to eat dogs. Not sure there is any truth to it, but I would still be concerned.

      Time to get on the GW's butt it seems.
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      • #4
        It's no wives tale. We lose several dogs a year to gators in FL. A few years ago there was a big gator in Fort Myers that jumped up out of some water reeds and grabbed a jogger off the sidewalk and killed her.
        They are nothing to mess with.
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        • #5
          I could never live in the south. Gators scare the sh!t out of me.
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            Originally posted by MyssMyst View Post
            I could never live in the south. Gators scare the sh!t out of me.
            What scares me more is the idiots who think they will make good pets... and bring them north ..
            "Sadly, some people's greatest skill, is being an idiot". (facebook profile pic I saw).

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Guin View Post
              You have ALLIGATORS in Arkansas?? WTH?
              They have them in South Carolina too, which we discovered when vacationing outside Charleston. Bleh. A few more years of summers like this and we'll have them swarming into Philadelphia...

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              • #8
                No wive's tale. Gators love dogs. A 4' gator could easily kill one too, simply by latching on and then going into the death spin!

                Oh the stories....another one is ....a few years back a 4 yo child was running around one of the numerous lakes behind a condo. Gator leaped out and took her.

                Landscaper working on Sanibel when a gator attacked her. she died at the hospital.

                Stupid woman once sat out by a lake and fed a gator chicken from her hand. She fell asleep one day and yep...the gator took her hand off.

                Its BEAR stories that terrify me!!!!!!!
                "My treasures do not sparkle or glitter, they shine in the sunlight and nicker to me in the night"

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                • #9
                  I was kinda thinking gator-kabob. Surely in Arkansas you can find a redneck with a gun! Almost everything is good after it's been marinated a couple of days.

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                  • #10
                    Tastes like chicken anyway
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                    • #11
                      gator

                      You have a gun so you can shoot him like on Swamp Wars? I don't care if it may be illegal------------IMP it is illegal for it to be on my property. It's gotta go. I mean, who is going to know if you shoot i? My dogs and horses and clients mean more to me than any gator.

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                      • #12
                        I'm in FL and have seen lots of Gators (kind of cool if they are far away and not on your property) But a 4 foot gator definitely weighs more than 35-40 pounds!!

                        I would keep calling your Game and Fish people.

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                          Here was I thinking this was going to be about an "oops" driving a farm vehicle...

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                            We have a pond next to the riding ring that the gators love. They cross over from the swamp branch all the time because it's easy pickin's for fish, turtles, etc...
                            A 4 footer is enough to be concerned about when it comes to dogs and small kids. We practice the three S's here at the farm, and I always keep a firearm in my truck for just that reason.
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                            • #15
                              Kill it now. If relocated they will come back up to 200 miles, and I doubt game & fish is going to drive it that far away. They are not protected, and pose a threat so it's time for it to go away permanently. If you can't do it then ask around until you find someone that will kill it for you. SSS is the only thing with this situation. And when the pond dries up enough it's going to go looking for a new home, and I bet your water trough or the nearest pool will fit nicely for a temporary gator condo.

                              There was one near my house (fortunately in the area, not really close) and the local cops took it away to a 'sanctuary'. I found out later the 'sanctuary' is to take it down river about 40 miles, then release it. It was back in a week, and had a terrible accident with rather large ammunition. And on the weekends the men who live near the swampy area it came from go hunting. I truly appreciate their dedication, but I'm definitely not going to any of their barbecues.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by JanM View Post
                                It was back in a week, and had a terrible accident with rather large ammunition.
                                Originally posted by Martha Drum
                                ...But I don't want to sit helmetless on my horse while he lies on the ground kicking a ball around without a bridle while Leatherface does an interpretive dance with his chainsaw around us.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by nashfad View Post
                                  You have a gun so you can shoot him like on Swamp Wars? I don't care if it may be illegal------------IMP it is illegal for it to be on my property. It's gotta go. I mean, who is going to know if you shoot i? My dogs and horses and clients mean more to me than any gator.
                                  Swamp PEOPLE!

                                  Not Swamp Wars . We (Swamp Wars people) do not shoot the gators...which is not to say they don't end up dead, but *we* don't shoot them.

                                  A 4' gator could indeed take a good sized dog but if you can just keep the dogs away from the pond for a few days...maybe the gator will move on...although with the drought, if your pond is the only water, it may stay. If you let the water level go down a bit F&G may be able to catch it.

                                  In Florida, F&G allows relocation of smaller gators, they are more likely to stay put. Bigger ones are killed because, yes, they will travel far and wide to get "home".

                                  Alligators are most dangerous when they are fed by people and learn to associate people with food. Compromised alligators (those with missing eyes or appendages) often end up near human inhabitation because they are pushed out of wild areas by stronger gators.

                                  Hoping your gator stays fearful and then moves on. In the meantime just be aware and careful .

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                                  • #18
                                    Ah once again, the "animal" people wish death on the animal. Thank you, 2Jakes.

                                    Just supervise the dog (which is always a good idea anyway) and give the gator some space to move on. He's just trying to survive any way he knows how. It's not like your dog needs to get in the pond to live.

                                    Alligators are not some kind of sinister death monster. We work alongside many in the coastal plain of NC -- they are quick to leap away and often I don't see anything more than a disappearing tail. If a tasty donut, I mean, lap dog, rolls into an alligator's range, he cannot be demonized for making a meal of it.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by atr View Post
                                      Here was I thinking this was going to be about an "oops" driving a farm vehicle...

                                      I was hoping it was such...
                                      Originally posted by BigMama1
                                      Facts don't have versions. If they do, they are opinions
                                      GNU Terry Prachett

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                                      • #20
                                        Out of curiosity, coming from a Canadian-Girl who has never seen a real, live, breathing, chomping version of these...

                                        Which is more dangerous to dogs/people/etc? Alligators or Crocodiles? What is the difference?

                                        Hope he moves on soon, though. I am not a reptile person. And the idea of sharing my space with something that big, that scaly, with TEETH.....well... I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer a snake, and I. Don't. Do. Snakes. AT ALL.
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