• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.



Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Outdoor cats

  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Outdoor cats

    I am sure this will be an unpopular opinion, but I do not understand the allure of outdoor cats. A barn cat is understandable, but this is different. Specifically, why would my tenant in the garage apartment I'm leasing to her think it is ok to let her cat run wild outdoors? I explained to her before she moved in that the property (53 acres) was under a wildlife management plan, including all birds. My ad for the apartment specified "one indoor pet" so I assumed she would abide by that.

    She is offended that I do not want her cat outdoors unattended. If she had a child that liked to kill birds, small mammals, and reptiles, would that be ok? I enjoy the cottontails, squirrels, lizards, and birds outside my window -- yesterday I saw a painted bunting pair. How can someone profess to "love animals" as she does, and have such a disrespect for the natural world? Sorry for the rant, but what is the rationale here? She says her Very Special Cat is a "lover not a fighter".
    Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

  • #2
    Tenant is an idiot.
    Has she considered her "lover" may become an appetizer for something larger like a coon or coyote?
    Or if not killed outright, severely injured.
    And if the little dear eats a bunny, it will end up with tapeworms.
    I hope she is treating for fleas, or she could risk an infestation in your property that is a real nuisance to clear up.

    Since she is a tenant, does the lease specify indoor pet only?
    If not you are SOL until the lease expires & you can choose not to offer to renew (giving her 30 days notice of intent).
    Or you can shoot the cat if it is menacing wildlife.

    BTW: you do realize barncats do not limit their kills to the barn?
    My little 5# Verminator has brought home a boatload of bunnies & bunny parts. Along with (inedible) sparrow wings & various vermin guts.
    *friend of bar.ka*RIP all my lovely boys, gone too soon:
    Steppin' Out 1988-2004
    Hey Vern! 1982-2009, Cash's Bay Threat 1994-2009
    Sam(Jaybee Altair) 1994-2015


    • #3
      I think the OP's mention of barn cats sort of implied that they would be doing their part to remove wildlife IN the barn, which most of us would agree is unwelcome wildlife. As opposed to one that doesn't even provide that little bit of an up-side.
      Click here before you buy.


      • #4
        OP- In your case you specified indoor only so she should abide by that.

        For me 5 of my 6 cats are indoor/outdoor since they all figured out how to use the dog door. Of that one was living on the city streets producing litters of kittens before I got her. She stresses if she is too confined. But she in now spayed.

        Two I have taken because they were indoor only kitties that were peeing and/or pooping in inappropiate places in the house. The owners tried everything but did not live where being able to allow kitty out was a possibility. Both cats go outdoors an don't mess in my house. One of those two I got in November. Not exactly the best time of year to try to transition him to be a barn cat after 5 years as in indoor only kitty.
        Not all cats are suitable for indoor only cats.
        Yes, I have to do the Frontline thing and I deworm for tapes on a regular basis.
        However, likely those three cats would have been euthanized if they could not live as indoor/outdoor kitties at my house.
        I did have one cat disappear. However she was another one that was messing in her former owners rental condo and she was declawed. She started after they declawed her at age 1. She lived an extra year and was happy.
        Oh, well, clearly you're not thoroughly indoctrinated to COTH yet, because finger pointing and drawing conclusions are the cornerstones of this great online community. (Tidy Rabbit)


        • #5
          We have house cats, and we have barn cats, and we have one old lady that is an indoor-outdoor cat, (I think I let her back in the house like 3 times today! I swear, everytime I came back to the house from outside, she was waiting at the door. I was like, "Didn't I just let you back in?" ??? Lol. Apparently just couldn't make up her mind!

          I don't understand the appeal of outdoor only cats either, unless they are "barn" or "shop" cats, but what I *really* don't understand is the people that live in town, that let their cats out. You see dead kitties on the side of the highway through town and you don't think "huh, that could happen to my cat"??The cats I see crossing the street in town, the cats that walk through our parking lot at night where I work, (there's a trailerpark and apartments nearby). Do those people really not like their cats? Or just not care at all? Last year I brought a stray home, we picked her up at the Cub Foods grocery store at 2am when we were on break. She was following some guy who was walking, meowing at him- I asked "Is that your cat?" and he said "NO! It's been following me for blocks!". Scooped her up and brought her home after work.... posted a "found cat" ad, watched for "lost cat" ads, she'd have been easily identifiable, she was very pretty, b/w and odd-eyed (one blue one green, very striking!). She now has a good home in Iowa, she was a sweet kitty.
          The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done".


          • #6
            I don't understand it either. My neighbor has a whole cluster of outdoor cats. I finally had enough when one of them climbed into an open car window of a guest's car in my driveway -- and took a dump. So I politely asked if he could keep his pets on his property. He rationalized it by saying they're "barn" cats and therefore must roam. Or sometimes he'd claim they weren't his cats at all - he just feeds them and lets them breed on his property.

            For your tenant: just lay down the law. If the cat is hers, she must keep it indoors & take responsibility for it. She can whine all she wants, but the lease said "one indoor pet" so she can have one INDOOR pet.
            Veterinarians for Equine Welfare