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  • Birds for Bug Control?

    Have heard a lot about guineas being excellent for controlling the bug, and esp tick, population. Someone else suggested bantams. I hate flies and ticks, but I also hate bird poop.

    IF, big IF, I get any birds, what are your suggestions? I am concerned about poop, noise, destruction, special care, and predation. I want something pretty self sufficient if I get anything. My feelings won't be hurt if you say forget it.
    Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. - William Jennings Bryan

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  • #2
    You may not want a couple hanging around... but bats are super for this.

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    • #3
      Purple martins.
      Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

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      • #4
        I considered New Guinea hens but then read that sometimes they roost on your (or your neighbors) roof and can make obnoxious noise. I can just see my beautiful wood roof, gunked up with chicken poo and pockmarked by the holes from my 22...

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        • #5
          Purple Martins!! Also blue birds and bats!! Anything that eats a bug is welcome here!!
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          • #6
            As well as swallows. Love them.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by sid View Post
              As well as swallows. Love them.
              Tree swallows, barn swallows. A purple martin is a swallow also.

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              • #8
                but an array of birdhouses up around the property. Nesting pairs need lots of bugs!
                I don't think the species is too important (and a ditto on the bats! they take it from where the birds go to bed, you can put bat houses around the property as well. Batcon.org has some on their webside)

                Bird poop is only a problem really when the birds are big (like chickens) or congregate, like around a feeder or favorite perches.

                If those spots are not in places of traffic you should have little to no problems.

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                • #9
                  Someone did a thread on guineas - four years or so ago? was it Auventera Two? - that made me weep with laughter but really have second thoughts about owning any. I did a search and sadly can't find it. But if noise is a problem for you, based totally on vicarious COTHer experience, maybe guineas aren't just the thing.

                  I have blue birds, bats, dragonflies, and swallows. I spray the horses twice a day and muck stalls every day. And I still have flies to rival the fourth plague of Egypt. Don't know what to tell you.
                  I'm not ignoring the rules. I'm interpreting the rules. Tamal, The Great British Baking Show

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pAin't_Misbehavin' View Post
                    Someone did a thread on guineas - four years or so ago? was it Auventera Two? - that made me weep with laughter but really have second thoughts about owning any. I did a search and sadly can't find it. But if noise is a problem for you, based totally on vicarious COTHer experience, maybe guineas aren't just the thing.

                    I have blue birds, bats, dragonflies, and swallows. I spray the horses twice a day and muck stalls every day. And I still have flies to rival the fourth plague of Egypt. Don't know what to tell you.
                    Another South Carolina person here. I use Fly Predators (3rd year) and Fly strips but also have a horrendous number of flies . Putting the horses out tonight so I can scrub the walls in the feed bucket corner and hopefully get rid of some of the monsters.
                    My new neighbor said she has had more flies than normal at her 'old barn' in NC. So much for cold winters killing off the insects
                    "Never do anything that you have to explain twice to the paramedics."
                    Courtesy my cousin Tim

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                    • #11
                      Bantams.

                      Roosters make noise but there is nothing that says you need a rooster.

                      Hens make a loud excited noise when they lay and egg. Eggs are good to eat. THis makes them easier to find.

                      The only thing I know they will destroy is styrofoam. Not sure why. Keep it away from them and all is well.

                      Their poop is tiny.

                      A roosting bar up high is all the care they need besides fresh water and if you want, some feed and grit if you don't have a gravel driveway.

                      They are likely to fall victim to desperate critters in winter but not at night with the bar.

                      Best bug control ever.
                      “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
                      ? Albert Einstein

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                      • #12
                        Purple martins are great but get the right kind of house and a pole you can pivot down to clean the houses once or twice a year.

                        They are agressive birds - saw them kick sparrows and baby sparrows out of their little housing complex. I've seen them eat flying insects but not the ones on the ground; would think you'd need ground birds if you want crickets and ticks eaten.

                        Purple martins are loud In the evening for some reason. They quiet down after the sun sets. They will tell you when a cat or snake is in the yard too.

                        I'd recommend purple martins but not too close to the house because of the evening singing can ruin an otherwise relaxing back porch.

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                          #13
                          Maybe I need bantams, guineas, AND martins, and a few bats thrown in. In addition to a high quality set of ear plugs.

                          I have 15-20 horses on the property and own 93 acres but the main areas used are probably 15 acres for the most part. How many bantams would it take to help control my insect population? Do they eat flies? Fly larvae? ticks? Do guineas eat flies and fly larvae? I am so clueless. Bantams sounds less offensive than guineas, but they are a lot smaller so probably need a lot more birds?

                          Any help or specifics would be great. I can't find much doing searches.
                          Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved. - William Jennings Bryan

                          http://www.halcyon-hill.com

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                          • #14
                            Are there any minus to having bats?

                            I am thinking of having these ppl install

                            http://ocala.craigslist.org/grd/2324680226.html
                            Draumr Hesta Farm
                            "Wenn Du denkst es geht nicht mehr, kommt von irgendwo ein kleines Licht daher"
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                            • #15
                              Wow! That is a deal! Wish we had someone local doing the bat house thing.

                              I bought a bat house for a friend who complained of skeeters. She said within just days she could go outside without being eaten alive.

                              Bantams will spread manure and eat the larvae. They eat ticks as well.

                              They also eat rolly pollys, garden pests and other annoying creepy crawlies. As a bonus they will eat baby mice and other rodents. They must be hairless and tiny but they will be gone as well.

                              I would guess that about 30 birds would do it. I have had anywhere from 7 to 18 birds for up to 9 horses. Hens with a rooster can produce babies which are more vulnerable to varmints but the itty biddies are very cute.

                              I use fly predators once a year as well (in the south they come back on their own without a brutal winter) and homemade fly spray but compared to other farms without chickens I have very few flies. I only saw ticks when I went without for 18 months. Never again!
                              “Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.”
                              ? Albert Einstein

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                              • #16
                                I am getting a pair of ducks this weekend just for fly control. I have read a few articles stating up to 84-93% reduction!

                                I freaken hate flies.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Nootka View Post
                                  Are there any minus to having bats?

                                  I am thinking of having these ppl install

                                  http://ocala.craigslist.org/grd/2324680226.html
                                  I bought my bat house at homedepot One bat moved in last year We are hoping for more this year. We put the house on a purple martin pole.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by tasia View Post
                                    Purple Martins!! Also blue birds and bats!! Anything that eats a bug is welcome here!!
                                    where did you get your martin house? ive been thinking about getting these

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                                    • #19
                                      Anyone know a good website that lets you know what kind of bird house to put up depending on your location?

                                      Cowbirds are my favourite for bug control. they totally brake down the manure piles scratching/pecking through them.
                                      "When life gives you scurvy, make lemonade."

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                                      • #20
                                        Agree with the "natural" solution such as martins and bats. If you encourage this wildlife, instead of domestic chickens, etc. then you won't have to come on here later and complain about foxes, etc killing your hens. This is the beginning of the vicious circle for wildlife, who are the losers when people move out to the country. Sorry, but one of my pet peeves is people who move to the country, profess to love it, then go about destroying the wildlife.
                                        Rest in peace Claudius, we will miss you.

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