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  • Ideas for barrier/gate across aisleway

    So, we just bought a new place and will be moving in a couple of weeks. And I'm trying to figure out a few things.

    Today's mind twister is what to get to put across the aisleway ends to block horses. There are two places where the barn opens up directly into pastures. With the Texas heat, I need to be able to have those doors open.

    The aisles are 14-16' wide. I was thinking about regular gates, but with the aisles that wide, when the gate is swung open it would block the entrance to a stall.

    So, I thought about two smaller gates that would close in the middle, but was trying to think of some other ideas. Perhaps some kind of rope gate?

    Other ideas?????
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    Schneiders Saddlery www.sstack.com sells aisle guards ($64.95 each) but they only adjust to 12' wide. Perhaps connecting the ends to stall chains on both sides would be long enough?

    The other option I was thinking about was perhaps a 2 X 4 if you could find one long enough.

    My aisles are only 10' wide, so I have used a long lead rope as a quick fix, but I think the 2 X 4 gives a more solid appearance to a horse.

    ETA I was just looking through the Big D catalog www.bigdweb.com and they carry barn door guards in 14' ($36.95) and 16' lengths (40.95).
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    • #3
      My dad (a builder) made two heights of brackets on each side of the barn entrance so that he could slot 2x4s in them to use as a barrier that would not prevent airflow. If you are in an area of high humidity, make sure you allow a bit more room in your slots to accomodate the expansion of the wood. Also, a series of the nylon web stall guards would work. However, and this is purely my opinion, there is a greater risk of a horse getting a leg tangled in these. I always used the solid rubbery stall guard to prevent a hoof from getting caught in the webbing. The downside of using anything hooked up with snaps is that if you have a smart pony, they will learn to back up and sit on the stall guard, breaking the snaps.

      I have seen plastic chains used fairly effectively. Or you could run a metal chain through a length of rubber hosing
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      • #4
        If you use two gates, consider making them long enough so they overlap a bit in the middle, so they are more firm, don't wiggle back and forth or need staking down in the middle.
        If you have 14', use two 8' gates, if 16, two 10' or an 8' and 10' if you can make it look good

        We have one long gate on each end, but they open against the bare wall.

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        • #5
          There is a barn that I drive by on the way to work and they have 3 coated chains that go across her main door that is probably 12 feet, the kind you can buy by the foot at TSC. I thought is was ingenious the first time I saw it - inexpensive and effective! Just latched on either end with top, middle and bottom heights. Sixteen feet is quite a span - not sure if it would work at that width?

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          • #6
            My barn is open to the pastures, and the previous owners used a long board (might have been a fence board) it was about 14 feet long (the entrance is 12 feet), and it slid into metal brackets on each end. When not in use, I would slide it out and rest it on the ground next to the barn.

            I'm trying to find a picture of the brackets, not having much luck (because I have no clue as to what they are called, but picture a piece of metal that the board fits through, that is screwed top and bottom to the wall.
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              #7
              Thanks for the ideas.

              I'll check everything out and measure the aisle. I know it's at least 14'. The total barn is something like 40 x 180.
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              • #8
                anything above the gate area? if clear vertical lift it or use somehigh lift.. just like an overhead door... all is need to gate's weight and amount of high lift so that the spring rates and drums can be calculated... it would be easy to add an automatic operator to it also.

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                • #9
                  I have used 2x4s in the past, but now use a bright, yellow very thick rope. It hooks on either side with heavy duty latches onto eye bolts that are screwed into the support beams.

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                  • #10
                    My barn has a 24'wide aisle in the middle. I use two twelve foot gates and I sunk and cemented in an iron pipe in the ground where they meet which I drop a rod into to keep the gates from being sprung forward.

                    I got regular pipe gates then added no-climb fence to them to keep animals from standing on the pipes and bending them. That works better than pig panel gates because horses can get a foot in the pig panels on those gates but can't do that on the no-climb fence.

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                    • #11
                      we have tried both hooking 2 stall guards together and the chain with the plastic coating. Either works well UNLESS you have the horse that learns to sit on it and break it...which happens when they use it as a butt scratching device...then it is only as strong as the weakest link...and that would be the clips or screw eyes....not so much the guard or the chain itself
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by camohn View Post
                          we have tried both hooking 2 stall guards together and the chain with the plastic coating. Either works well UNLESS you have the horse that learns to sit on it and break it...which happens when they use it as a butt scratching device...then it is only as strong as the weakest link...and that would be the clips or screw eyes....not so much the guard or the chain itself
                          Sigh. one of my IDx's is a very big girl, and she knows it.

                          I COVET these
                          http://store.aluminumhorsestalls.com/aislegates.html

                          but would need 4 My aisle's are just under 12 feet so a standard 12 foot gate won't work in this barn. I do use 12 foot gates in my other barn. That one has 2 open bays, one on each side and at opposite ends of the row. I can use the gate to either close off the aisle or close off the open area to use as a stall or wash stall
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                          • #14
                            I use a 2x4 but I would instead recommend fencing off the area around the barn entrance. There will be less wear on your barn and the ground directly outside of the entrance.
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                            • #15
                              My hall is 10' wide, and I need to keep the horses out of the hay storage 'area' when I let them in the barnyard to graze. I use a cable run through a couple of 4' pieces of 3" grey PVC, the big plumbing grade PVC. It's tough, rigid, and safe. Easy enough for a person to duck under or unhook one end, but solid looking and feeling that the horses don't question it.

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                              • #16
                                We are keeping not only horses, but cattle out of the barn also, so need a bit more gate than just a board or two:

                                http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g?t=1305558347

                                If your only concern with a long gate is access to one stall if the gate was left open, how often would that be a problem?

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                                  I'm going down there today and will try to take some pics and measurements. There are at least 4 places I'd like to block...the East and West barn ends, a wash stall that has a sliding door on the South and an opening on the north side that will be a grooming area. The East end and the wash stall open directly into pasture.

                                  Eventually, I will fence around those areas so that there is a buffer zone.

                                  The other issue is that the barn is steel. So can't just screw in eye bolts and snap something up. It'll have to be welded. And there are sliding doors on all the openings, so I don't think the 2x4s would work very well unless we welding something to hold just the ends of the boards to the barn wall.
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                                  • #18
                                    I use a large white metal spring thing to block off the lane between paddocks. It easily stretches the 14 feet. It can be used with electric fencing but I dont have it charged. When I need access I unhook it and walk it to the other side, it shortens up nicely and is out of the way.

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                                    • #19
                                      This might be what MrsCB was referring to -- http://www.tractorsupply.com/gate-ha...handle-3600930

                                      I've used these gates in areas where I want the horses to "think" that the aisle is blocked, and to slow them down and not make a break for freedom. I wouldn't use them in an area where horses would always be near them -- I once had a horse swish his tail and end up with one of these slinky gates wrapped up in his tail -- ugly situation!

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                                      • #20
                                        We use a pipe panel hung a bit higher so that it swings at the back door. At the front we have a 4 foot gate and an eight foot panel. This is the one closest to our house. Usually horses only go out the back gate so we open, let horses out and then close. Our aisles are 12 feet.

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