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  • Trading cleaning 15 stalls on sat and sun for rent?

    I have a 60+ hr full-time job and am asked to speak & do educational events several times a year at other facilities. Problem is I don't make much money. I also have a great equestrain resume but haven't been in the horses since 2004 becasue of the shortage of funds. I've done LOTS of stalls in my life, at home and on the road. I've ridden or taken care of hunter/jumpers, fox hunters, dressage horses, eventers. and polo ponies. There's not much with the horses or around the farm I can't do or haven't done. I have a chance to trade weekend stalls, feed, turn out-in for an appartment and utilities. Getting out from under these monthly commitments would allow me to save and pay off some long lingering debts. The farm would cut my work commute in half. I am 54 yo.

    I've never done that many stalls by myself. I'm wondering how long I might figure into my day to do the 15 stall with a tractor? I'd like not to have to give up Church and a few other weekend activities. But I also don't want to start at 5am. Thoughts.

  • #2
    Whether its worth the money is something you are going to have to decide. That is likely to take the better part of the day to do the job right. Just walking 15 horses in and out can take an hour depending upon where they are going. Straw stalls take longer so bedding factors in as well.
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    • #3
      Fifteen stalls done well would take me probably 3+ hours, assuming the dumping is close by and no horses are utter slobs. See what kind of setuP they have and what sort of equipment before you decide. The wrong tools can make that many stalls a nightmare. Specifically the dumping arrangement--everyone can find a pitchfork they like.

      It's great exercise, and you can certainly pray while you muck. Depending on your belief system, of course, the deity most commonly referenced when one says "church" has a distinct affinity for stables. It's also a great chance to listen to audiobooks.

      I'dbe wanting to know if you get ANY weekends off, however. Never having a day all tooneselfcan get very tiresome.
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      • #4
        I do ten stalls on Saturdays and Sundays and do turn-out/in for that many horses as well. It takes me roughly three hours when I work alone and about two hours when my husband helps.


        • #5
          i do 13 stalls by myself in three hours. one barn has a very easy and close by dump pile, the other two barns require a much longer and harder wheelbarrow journey to dump. all in all the set-up of where the stalls are in relationship to the dump pile is a huge factor, as is the access to fresh shavings, and whatever else you'll need.
          sounds like a decent gig, if the apt is what you want and if you get weekend off here and there.
          good luck, sounds like you work very ahrd already.


          • #6
            I had 10 horses and it took a good 3.5 hours to clean stalls, refresh shavings, and empty water buckets.
            I like 'clean' stalls so maybe more attention to detail than most barns.
            best to you.
            save lives...spay/neuter/geld


            • #7
              I have about 20 stalls and a manure spreader I can pull in the barn. Turnout is set up easy. I can haul butt and it still takes me over 4 hours. And I am 51 (holy crap, how did that happen?). I honestly don't do it much by myself.
              Check the set up, but it does sound like a deal that could work for you.
              Good luck.


              • #8
                it takes me 1.5 hours to do 14 with a wheelbarrow though the maure pile is not too far from the barn. The shavings pile is also right next to the barn. That includes doing water buckets and feed. However, that also depends on how long the horses are IN the stalls...if they are out all day or in most of it.....which will significantly affect the poop levels! Ours are turned out 12 hours a day. The night feed part here would add another 30 minutes. That would not include any blanketing/unblanketing (we only have one that needs it) or sweeping ( we only do it on the weekends since we also have dayjobs).
                Providence Farm


                • #9
                  I would offer to work 2 weekends/ stay at the apt before making any decisions.

                  I would insist the entire job have written full description.

                  I would ask for some kind of contract --- if they fire you, you are out of work out of a home, on the street that instant! (people will be people, you know> my barn/my rules)

                  15 stalls a day, turn out, night feed is a LOT of work.
                  Does this include scrubbing feed and water buckets? filling outside water troughs? hay bags? washing off poultice? bandages? blanketing? halters on/off & hung? Washing off muddy feet? muddy horses? Sweeping the entire barn? raking the outside?

                  Even if they paid you $150/day-300wknd-$1200 plus utilities, perhaps you could just offer a fair market price for the apt and skip the work? or get paid fairly for the work and skip the apt.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deltawave View Post
                    It's great exercise, and you can certainly pray while you muck.
                    Love it!
                    JB-Infinity Farm


                    • #11
                      I am very big on multi-tasking.
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                      • #12
                        I wonder if they would hire you to do more of the horse-centric chores on weekends (turnout, feed, groom, etc.) and let you "subcontract" the stall cleaning part? For a little over minimum wage or the cost of day labor you could probably hire someone to do 5-6 hours of pure mucking per weekend, pay them out of your pocket and still have a good deal going. Of course the owner would have to agree, but as you seem pretty overqualified for a mucking-out job, maybe what you could offer as your exchange for the apartment is a little more quality horse care like bathing, clipping, pulling manes, cleaning tack, etc., not to mention being there and looking in on the horses daily.

                        Not quite as brutal and physically draining, and you could do a little bit of the general horse care here and there rather than committing your whole weekend to just mucking.

                        Just thinking outside the box a little.
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                        • Original Poster

                          Wonderful! feedback and suggestions. Thanks to all. I'm going to see the place and find out more tomorrow after church. I now have some better idea of what to ask and ask for. I'll let you all know and might have more questions.

                          Deltawave, I love your idea about mucking and praying and books on tape. I'm a religious professional--hospital chaplain--so thought I don't have to go to church on Sunday it's kind of expected of me. I also like church, teach a bit, lead worship occasionally, and have friends there I like to see.

                          Thanks to all again.


                          • #14
                            I'd guess 3 hours for me to do 15 stalls and all the fixin's if I was very efficient.

                            So this means 12 hours of work per month for housing and utilities? That is NOT bad if you think about how many hours your Average Joe works to pay of the same.

                            In the 1950s, there used to be a general chart/idea that said you should not spend more than 25% (or so) of your take home pay on housing. I keep that number in mind. Most people can't/don't do that any more. But in the 1950s, the number was meant to tell you when you were making a mistake in choosing "too much house."

                            That's why I "do the math" on your situation this way. If you can do something you like, live in a pretty place, not commute, live AND pay down some debt-- man, you are way ahead of the game.
                            The armchair saddler
                            Politically Pro-Cat


                            • #15
                              I do 15 stalls, rake aisle, scrub and fill buckets in 2 hrs. BUT I do the stalls every day of the week. I would think it would depend on who is cleaning the stalls during the week as to how hard they will be on the weekends.

                              We have mats, manure pile is close to the barn and on days I add shavings I haul them late in the evening the night before (we use bags). Everything is done for efficiency, water buckets are on the outside of the stalls and we have hay bunkers.

                              Cleaning stalls is my favorite part of the day, no one else hangs around when there is work and its very peaceful!


                              • #16
                                I'd ask to maybe cut out turn-in, if possible. Depends on how much of a social life you want, to be honest, but it's a thought. This will eat mornings and evenings for the most part.

                                I used to clean 21 stalls in two hours, but I was a demon. And these were CLEAN stalls when I was done. The feeding and everything took longer, because of inside and outside horses. Are there only 15 horses? If that's the case, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Three hours in the morning, 30 minutes at night, done.
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                                • #17
                                  Do a trial run.
                                  In other words, do stalls one weekend to see how long it takes.
                                  Do turnout, etc ...everything expected of you.

                                  then it will determine how long it will take you.

                                  I have 2 young woman who help me. It takes each of us different times to do the job.
                                  One of us it takes 3.5 hours, another 4 hours, and another 4.5 hours for 10 horses. we all end up with the same amount of 'clean', just takes us different times. I also have had people who take 5 hours to do this regularly.
                                  Stalls are cleaned every day, a half bag of shavings at least put in every day.

                                  Just cleaning stalls takes less time, the emptying of water buckets, adding shavings all add time.

                                  Good luck to you.
                                  save lives...spay/neuter/geld


                                  • Original Poster

                                    I want to thank everyone, once again for the truly great! advice and suggestions. I went to the farm today, met the owner, saw the job, and the apt. The owner is truly a lovely lady who was quite willing to have the stalls cleaned after church as long a feed, water and turnout was started by 8. So, church concern was no concern. The customers seem like pleasure riders, the horses seem kind and cute and very well suited to their jobs. It was very much a part of the industry I've not experienced before. I have no doubt that on my worst day, I'd exceed expectations. Sadly, the apt was very, very small and quite dirty. I got tearful when I saw it. The owner said she hadn't been in it and would try to see that it was cleaned and call me next weekend. She seemed so very nice and like she truly cared for and understood her horses. Sigh.... Thanks to all again.


                                    • #19
                                      You sound like a very conscientous person. Just be careful you are not going to end up being the evening check person, the 7 nights a week waterer, the fill-in person for everyone else etc.


                                      • #20
                                        You could stipulate a professional cleaning and upgrading appliances as needed in the apartment, I'll bet.

                                        Being "very nice" is an asset, but not a replacement for a good contract and professionalism. Remember SHE is looking for help and you do hold most of the cards here.
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