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  • Bait for Coyote Trap

    At 7:15am this morning, I look out my kitchen window to see my dog with his hair standing straight up and in a very aggressive posture in one of our fields, 10 ft off the driveway. 10 ft away from to his right is a coyote. 50 ft from him to his left are 2 more coyotes. I ran to the door and called him. Luckily he's extremely obedient and came instead of chasing the coyotes as they ran off. If I thought I had a few more seconds, I would have grabbed a gun. My dog is my family, so his safety came first. This all happened within 100 ft of my running car with the radio on.

    It may be a week or two before some hunters are able to come out. My husband is going to buy a live trap today. I'd happily get a leg trap, but there are too many stray dogs and cats around here that we don't want to hurt. I don't have high hopes for it, but these suckers must be very hungry and are very bold.

    What should I bait the trap with?

  • #2
    Oh my... please don't trap your coyotes. They are not evil.

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    • #3
      While it is debatable whether or not they are evil, I echo the request not to trap the coyotes. I am surrounded by coyotes, I literally have 1/2 dozen dens within a mile of my farm. I see and hear them all the time.

      Coyotes are very smart about drawing your dogs out, 1 will call, if your dog chases them, they will run into a pack that will kill it. The key is to strike a balance. My alpha dog, Charlie, patrols the grounds nightly, he has marked his territory, and he will fight and kill any coyote that comes within his boundaries.

      My other animals know when Charlie barks, heads up! something is going on.

      Please though, forget the traps. My neighbour was walking her 2 border collies on the rural road last summer. Some moron put two traps in the ditch, killed both her dogs.

      Poison will work, but then you risk any and all of your animals, and neighbours animals getting into it. Best to keep your gun handy and shoot the coyotes if they come up close to your house.

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      • #4
        My neighbor recently had his coonhound killed by coyotes. A working, fit coonhound. Heard the dog screaming but couldn't get to him in time to save him.

        I'm pretty darn predator friendly, and don't mind them at all. But when one or more poses a threat to pets or livestock, my choice is clear. My duty is to protect my animals.

        You can purchase a humane trap, bait it with meat, venison is good, and wait. A humane trap won't kill any animal. It will just trap the animal, and you can release a non target species. That is what I do. I will not permit any poison or lethal trapping on my land.

        But coyotes usually don't stop preying just because one has been killed. And they respond to predation differently than a prey animal like deer. If you are dealing with a hybrid, or coyotes who have packed up, they will be back. You will not be able to kill them all, nor is that a good idea.

        Trapping will work to eliminate one problem coyote, but not a pack.

        Sorry.
        Last edited by JSwan; Mar. 29, 2011, 09:32 AM. Reason: Typo.
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        • #5
          Agree with above posters.

          If you trap/kill/remove a coyote, another one will take its place. That will not get rid of your problem.

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          • #6
            Get the cheapest meat you can find, hamburget meat is good for that and make small balls for bait.

            If you have too many and brave coyotes, you need to thin them and make them more wary, so they stay away.
            For us shooting at them is a good way, don't need to kill them, just scare them, so they stay away from the house and barns, out in the pastures, where they belong.

            If you take out too many coyotes, trapping or poisoning or shooting them, you alter their territories and other coyotes will move in, that, again, not knowing the territory, will try your house, barns and animals, until you again either discourage them, or trap/poison/shoot and the cycle repeats.

            So, better a few known coyotes, that will stay away, than playing musical chairs with continuous, clueless new coyotes coming in on the empty territory you have provided for them.

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            • #7
              JSwan, sorry about your neighbours dog. That's what I was talking about when I said if they can draw your dog out, the pack will kill it.

              I 100% agree you must protect your livestock, but yeah, kill one or two and it will really make no difference. What you need to do is make it so your livestock are not easy prey.

              You need to train your dog to bark but not chase, and keep your gun handy for any that do dare venture close.

              Bluey, you got that right! The coyotes packs around here are very established and smart, they seem to have learned that my dogs won't chase them, so they tend to travel on the far fence lines away from my yard/barn area.

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              • #8
                Can you fence your dog in? We are surrounded by coyotes (desert SW) and the only way to keep them out is fence them out. I even have free range chickens in our yard that they have yet to get (well except for the few chickens that have jumped our fence).

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                • #9
                  My husband shoots at them when he sees one too close. Not to hit them, mind you, but to scare them off. We have free range chickens and have never lost one to a coyote (we've had them four years).

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                  • #10
                    Trapping will take more time and effort than it is worth, because you will also get cats, coons, dogs. Shooting them is so much easier
                    Originally posted by The Saddle
                    Perhaps I need my flocking adjusted.

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                    • #11
                      I don't know if this will be helpful or not, but here (NW IL) the coyotes are all over the place. Often when I feed at night they sound like they are just a few 100 feet out. I don't worry about my dogs (they are half-Bassets, we HAVE to fence them! ) Anyway, whenever I hear them and get out my flashlight, they shut up and SCRAM! The light seems to really scare them. I've never even caught sight of one in my flashlight, even though I could tell later they were quite close. Anyway, I'm thinking those motion-detecting lights might be helpful at least in keeping them away from your buildings and such.
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                      • #12
                        Coyote have been here (North America) longer than anything....you can't get rid of them. You kill a dumb one and the smart ones breed more smart ones to make up for the loss of the dumb one. Seriously. When pressured they just have bigger litters.

                        Discourage the pack you are dealing with.

                        Has anyone actually tried the trapping and scaring the $hit out of them method for making your land an inhospitable place? Considering they are highly intelligent I would think this would prove effective.
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                          #13
                          This is the first time they have not been shot at when they have been seen. They are getting bolder.

                          Deckchick: He is trained to bark. This was very unusual for my dog to not bark.

                          Bells: No I can't fence my yard in. We live in the middle of a 50 acre field that is farmed all around us.

                          I am not getting a leg trap nor will I poison. There is currently a contest in our county to kill the most coyotes because they are so overpopulated right now. Obviously, I have to do something to show them that my land is not a happy place to feast.

                          If they are this bold, they need killed.

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                          • #14
                            I would suggest in investing in one or two Livestock Guarding Dogs. They will KILL coyotes and even eat them. It's a matter of fighting fire with fire. Shooting, posioning and trapping coyotes wont make a dent in the population. However bringing in a bigger badder "predator" will drive them out. There is a reason why they have been used for thousands of years.

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                            • #15
                              I must have the most civilized coyotes in the country. I hear them all the time, sometimes quite close and see them fairly frequently. I have never seen a pack, just a breeding pair and occasionally a breeding pair with a couple of half grown pups that are learning to hunt. We haven't lost a calf to coyotes in years and my brother free ranged his goats and never lost a one. Granted, the goats did come to the house at night. My dogs will bark at them but seem to have enough sense not to take one on. If they come face to face with a coyote, they will do a lot of challenging and posturing but aren't particularly anxious to engage in battle. The only time they have actually taken on a coyote, there were two dogs to on coyote and the dogs held their own until I intervened.

                              As far as trapping them, my neighbor used to trap them and sell them to people who had "fox pens" and held fox hound trials. He used a special kind of leg hold trap or snare that was designed to hold the coyote but not injure it. I believe he used a lure made of female bobcat urine or female coyote in heat urine. You can buy them from hunting supply stores like Gander Mountain or Bass Pro Shops. I don't think you will have much luck catching one with a Hav-a-Hart type live trap using food for bait unless it is a very young, very hungry coyote. They are too smart for that.

                              I like my coyotes but I might feel differently if they were eating my livestock or pets. They are very curious and will stop and look at you if you whistle at them. I've even had them take a step or two toward me.
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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Bobuddy View Post
                                If you trap/kill/remove a coyote, another one will take its place. That will not get rid of your problem.
                                This is very true. Removing an animal from the environment just opens the niche for another one to move in. Coyote packs will also amp up their reproductive efforts when the population is pressured by increased mortality. You are better off figuring out a way to coexist with the pack you have than you are killing them.
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                                • #17
                                  I live in the middle of a 40 acre tract that is farmed/some not owned by us around us. I fenced in 2 acres to let me sleep well at night and not worry during the day.

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                                  • #18
                                    OP - what kind of dog do you have?
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                                    • #19
                                      When I saw this post the first answer that came to mind was...your favorite cat (or pet dog!!)!!! I agree with the others. I think a coyote is too smart to get himself in a trap!! Our Great Pyrennes keeps them at arms length, but when there was snow on the ground the tracks were very thick and very close to our barns. Recently there have been several cases in our area of coyotes killing calves as they were being born. YUCK!!! And around here they ARE getting much bigger.
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                                        #20
                                        Foxtrot-I have a 100# Blackmouth Cur.

                                        I was perfectly willing to tolerate them when I heard them howling at the noon siren and the yipping at night. I will not tolerate the teeth marks on my dog's legs. My dog is my family and I will protect him. I understand the whole population dynamics etc, but I will not have a predator around my land that will attack within 100 ft of my house. My husband and I decided against the trap idea. My emotions were getting the better of me when I agreed to him buying a trap, but I'm not content with just letting them be.

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