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  • Just got a Centaur Installation estimate...

    $10.75 per linear foot for 4 rail 5" CenFlex with 10' post spacing. Flat ground, no rocks, etc... One gate.

    From what I've been able to figure, a little less than half of that is for labor.

    My fencing experience is extremely limited, and I realize that markets vary around the country, but could anyone tell me if the above is the norm?

    I had less than 500' to fence (a long and short side of a half finished long rectangle). I wasn't expecting the estimate to be over $5,000.

    Also, could anyone explain the difference between Centaur HTP and CenFlex? I had asked for a Centaur quote and they came back with the CenFlex quote... I can see that it has a shorter warranty and that it's less expensive.

    Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

  • #2
    I would be curious to know also, since I close on my farm at the end of the month and will be doing some research on fencing options. So any information would be greatly useful.

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    • #3
      $10.75 a foot? Is it gold-plated?
      I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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      • #4
        Nope, it's not gold plated, just the estimate.

        Figured it (without a diagram) using our prices $1657 or $3.30 a foot (not counting shipping because I don't where the OP is located) for CenFlex or $2239 for Centaur. Posts and concrete usually run about $1.50 a foot so another $750 for those. Sounds like the difference is labor without seeing your quote which would be about $5 a foot.

        There are big differences around the country on installation costs. Larger installations can get better per foot prices than smaller ones.

        Cenflex is a tad thinner than Centaur but break strength is the same. The bracket looks similar but is one piece instead of two piece. Same tensioning systems, etc.

        Doesn't hurt to get more than estimate. Many customers buy from someone like us with discounted prices and then hire the pros to set the posts, etc.
        Some do it all themselves. Some have the posts set and hang the rail themselves. Often the material to go on the fence is the least expensive part of the project.

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        • #5
          Installing centaur fencing is pretty easy. Far easier than doing board fence. I'm also wondering why they recommended doing posts every 10'. When we did ours they recommended 12-16'. That's 8 more posts right there.

          Flat ground, no rocks and one gate. That sounds pretty straight forward. You could have all the posts in in one weekend and hang the fence the next.

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          • #6
            We got fence quote too. Now doing it ourselves

            We just had a local fencing company out to give me a quote on putting fencing (the centaur type) for one acre, with 1 gate.
            Quote was $4600 (and I provided Gate as I have one already).

            Ouch. So we are looking into doing the project ourselves. Figure should be able to do project for half that quote, hopefully even less.

            Anyone use the corded flex Electrobraid rope? I saw it at the PA Expo and really like it. Thinking about sending them my fence plan layout and measurements to get a quote for a DIY project.

            BTW we are getting our local lumber mill (where we custom order wood for our barn stalls) to make out fence posts. He does them for all the local fencing companies and if I get them direct from mill I save $3.50 a post.

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              #7
              HuntToLive, I've never seen properly installed Centaur fencing and I'm not sure if I could get it up myself. Can it be attached without a helper?

              I've nailed up enough replacement boards to know I could do that...

              What's worrying me are the posts. I can not dig the holes and set the posts myself and have nobody to help me, which is why I figured I'd have it professionally installed, but if they're going to charge me $40 a post hole for installation...

              I've got calls in to two other fence installers. Worst case scenario, I'll go with wood (would just need the post holes dug, posts set and the boards delivered), nail on the boards myself and hot wire the top.

              lostkiwi, that quote is insane. Please post pictures when you're done with it.

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              • #8
                Centaur's max recommendation for post spacing is 12 feet. Rolls are sold with
                brackets for 8, 10 or 12 feet and price varies with post spacing due to the number of brackets required. 12 foot is the least expensive due to less brackets required.

                10 foot is gonna of a middle of the road spacing--looks closer to four board spacing of 8 feet. Spacing choice sort depends on types of horses--with
                mares and foals, we tend to recommend 4 rail and closer posts. For quiet guys, 3 rail with 12 foot is probably fine. Other questions are are there horses on the other side of the fence, any escape artists in the crowd. How hard are posts to set on your place...easy ground or rock to deal with. Just a lot of variables to take into account along with the $$$ involved.

                Another question is are you thinking of running some electric also, especially
                with horses on each side. Centaur's coated electric wire is often used between rails as well as the non-electric coated wire.

                We try to emphasize for the DIY folks to follow the directions for the corner
                and end/gate post bracing. No shortcuts, no reinventing the wheel. Just follow the manual.

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                • #9
                  We paid to have our posts set and we installed the flex rails ourselves. It was pretty simple and was a good "bonding" experience with my husband. I love the look of the Centaur fence and we've been very pleased. No escaped or injured horses and we've had the fence for about 5 years or more.

                  Best of luck.

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                    #10
                    GallopHer, do you recall what you were charged to have the posts set?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GallopHer View Post
                      We paid to have our posts set and we installed the flex rails ourselves. It was pretty simple and was a good "bonding" experience with my husband. I love the look of the Centaur fence and we've been very pleased. No escaped or injured horses and we've had the fence for about 5 years or more.

                      Best of luck.
                      This. It is excellent fence. Love it.
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                      • #12
                        I have about 9 acres to fence and have been setting fence posts myself for what seems like forever. I do what I can on the weekends when the weather allows. We have rock and the back half of my property is fairly steep. I am doing no- climb wire and wooden posts.

                        Can I say, I hate it...I just hate it. If I EVER have to do this again, I will pay some one to do it and I would use something like Centaur.

                        I keep thinking, if I had just bitten the bullet and PAID the $$$$$, this would all be done...alas, I tried to save money and do it myself....live and learn.
                        Never Ride Faster Than Your Guardian Angel Can Fly
                        Way Back Texas~04/20/90-09/17/08
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                        • #13
                          That's almost to the penny what we paid last year to install 5000 feet of 4-rail vinyl Gardner fencing. That included 9 gates, all hardware, and each post set in concrete. They had a crew of 6 and the job was beautifully done in 10 days. We live in Minnesota.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by zakkandtoto View Post

                            Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

                            start dranking...

                            Tamara
                            Production Acres,Pro A Welsh Cobs
                            I am one of the last 210,000 remaining full time farmers in America.We feed the others.

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                            • #15
                              A lot depends on where you live too.

                              I have Ramm fence (similar to Centaur) and had my fencing redone last year. I had one paddock we put up ourselves 6 years earlier that got removed and redone in straight lines (instead of the drunken ones we had) and had the second paddock fenced.

                              I had *all* materials. All posts, brackets, insulators, coated wire, Flex fence, ground rods, charger...even all nails, screws and bags of quik-crete. They only had to bring the manpower and machinery, that's it.

                              Had 680 linear fence done, 4 gates. (had all gates too) Top rail flex fence, 4 rails coated wire, one line electrobraid.

                              Cost was $5k for installation only.
                              And I painted my own posts.
                              And they used my chainsaw because theirs sucked and wasn't cleaned so it didn't cut much of anything.

                              Fence posts were mostly pounded, a few had to have crete due to the wet because it was early spring when it was done.

                              I'm in CT. Where everything costs a freaking arm and a leg.

                              I will say though that my fence looks fantastic. (it better for that price, LOL)

                              The larger places around here that actually have big pastures...have no bloody idea how they afford to fence it in.
                              You jump in the saddle,
                              Hold onto the bridle!
                              Jump in the line!
                              ...Belefonte

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                              • #16
                                Sent you a PM.

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                                • #17
                                  We've got Centaur (that we ordered from DoubleJ... I guess that'd be basquemom. Hi Julie!) and absolutely love it! It took forever to set some of the posts as we ran into some really hard ground, but others went right in. If you're not wanting to rent or buy an auger to make the post holes, you might be able to find a local fencing company to set the posts for you fairly cheap and then install the Centaur (CenFlex / whatever) yourself. It's just a matter of being able to use a drill with a screwdriver bit and attaching the tensioners.

                                  Whatever you decide, good luck!
                                  David A. Staples
                                  Pony Tail Acres | Find Us On Facebook

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                                  • #18
                                    Sparky -

                                    may I ask who you used? That seems like a pretty good deal!

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                                    • #19
                                      I'd personally rather have (at least the line) fence posts driven in instead of dug in and placed anyway. Is that not recommended for Centaur installation--maybe that is different?

                                      If I were you, I would hire the posts set (and they can do the corner bracing too if you want) and then put it up yourself. But I'm a big DIY kind of gal. I've also helped build tensioned fence before, so I have a reference point, which is that it really isn't that hard. But maybe Centaur is different.
                                      DIY Journey of Remodeling the Farmette: http://weownblackacre.blogspot.com/

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                                      • #20
                                        I'd suggest you pay someone to dig the holes or to drive the posts, and then consider the rest of the installation yourself. You do need at least a second person to put posts in and it's essential the end posts are set in concrete and properly braced.

                                        The shorter your fence run is, the higher your cost is going to be per foot, just to get the laborers to your site and to deal with the startup costs. Centaur is also much more expensive for a corner or gate end than say a plain board fence because of the bracing.

                                        I have a similar RAMM fence in combination with no-climb, and I'm very pleased.

                                        But, yes. Fence is really expensive.
                                        If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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