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I found corn in my grain free dog food :( (Taste of the Wild)

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  • I found corn in my grain free dog food :( (Taste of the Wild)

    Taste of the Wild has become a very popular food. I was very happy with it- it was very palatable, put weight on my old dog who had chronic IBD related issues.

    My dog crashed last month, and I finally let him go

    I fed the rest of the bag to the rescue puppy I have who has been keeping me preoccupied. At the bottom of the band, I found several pieces of corn kernels.

    I double checked the bag. Corn isn't in the ingredient list. Of course it's advertised as a grain-free, novel protein source diet.

    I kept the bag, kept some food, and the kernel. I spoke with a nutrition expert here at school, who said "I'm disappointed but not surprised".

    Nutrition and labeling among pet foods isn't so strongly regulated. Not too long ago I switched my horses to a cheapish grain (after seeing a barn full on it, who looked wonderful) and to not fall victim to the marketing scheme of the more expensive feeds.... and they still look wonderful.

    I'm looking at sending the food out to a lab to get fully analyzed. Has anyone else ever seen something odd with TOTW food? (I switched the puppy back to a cheaper feed).
    Last edited by FatPalomino; Jan. 6, 2011, 01:37 PM.

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    The corn probably just slipped in at the bagging facility. Even if they did use corn as an ingredient, they wouldn't be adding whole kernels and they certainly wouldn't be doing it at the bagging facility.

    I seriously would not take this as an indication that corn is now being used as an ingredient.
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    • #3
      I am very sorry for the loss of your pet.


      As for the feed...
      if it was a Purina product the torches would be lit and the cauldron bubblin'...

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        #4
        To clarify, there were fragments of corn kernels in the bottom of the bag..... many of them.... who knows. I know after beginning to eat this bag of food, my puppy got similar clinical signs to my old dog.... we did some biopsy's of her and couldn't find anything definitive. Hopefully we can get the ingredients in this batch identified.... if nothing else, for my own interest.

        Thanks for the condolence. He was one of those heart dogs, the kind they don't make anymore

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        • #5
          I switched from Taste of the Wild because my dogs just flat out refused to eat a new bag several months ago. I tried several more bags, same thing. I blamed it on Tractor Supply not storing it correctly. But, it makes you wonder....

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          • #6
            Very sorry for the loss of your dog : (

            I would be seriously pi$$ed off if I was paying that kind of price for dog food that was supposed to be grain free and found corn in it. Ingredients shouldn't just "slip in" at the bagging facility. What if you were feeding an animal with allergies? What else is just slipping in? I would be making some phone calls.
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            • #7
              I am interested to hear the results if you get the food analyzed. I just switched my dogs to TOTW from another "popular brand" and they seem to approve of it, but that could just be the honeymoon phase of new food.

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              • #8
                It's made by Diamond, I've never been a big fan of Diamond.

                I tried it once or twice...but wasn't that impressed. Nature's Variety Instinct is my grain free dog food of choice.

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                • #9
                  Look at orijen. It's expensive but a 6 star food and worth it imho. The lack of size of the "stools" in the yard is impressive. I have an 85lb dog but yard "evidence" suggests I have a Lhasa Apso.

                  I just wanted to apologize for only skimming the title and not reading the whole thread. I'm so very sorry about your dog
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                  • #10
                    I think I read somewhere that they use corn to clean out the machines between types of food. Could be you got some of that in your bag.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Desert Topaz View Post
                      I think I read somewhere that they use corn to clean out the machines between types of food. Could be you got some of that in your bag.
                      Yes, I think that is the most obvious and reasonable explanation.
                      Your crazy is showing. You might want to tuck that back in.

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                      • #12
                        My 6 year old little dog was on Blue Buffalo lately and the last bag she would not hardly eat it, had much gas and stomach cramping after eating.
                        After trying for a little, I bought quickly a bag of Science Diet and she is doing wonderful on it, eating and no more cramping or gas and is feeling young again.
                        I know, that brand is rated very low by the experts, but if the dog does well, I guess that is what matters right now.
                        Both were their regular adult small dog kinds.
                        Will try another kind next.

                        A few years ago I tried Solid Gold for a little bit and that clearly didn't agree with her at all, with diarrhea and vomiting.

                        I don't know how consistent companies are about what they use and where from.

                        That corn in the bag may have been an accident, but they need to be told about it, so they don't keep having accidents.

                        Sorry about your dog.

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                        • #13
                          I'm sorry about your pup

                          Have you tried calling the company to ask them about the corn bits?

                          Good Luck

                          LBR
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                          • #14
                            this site rates dog foods. TOTW is rated with 5 stars. I am considering trying it b/c my dog has allergies. To the person feeding Science diet- It's mostly corn- CRAP food for dogs. you'd do better to feed your dog table scraps than SD.

                            http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/

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                            • #15
                              finding corn in the bag would not alam me much. I consider this to be in the same category as finding a raisin in your hazlenut chocolate. That's why they put allergy alerts on people food when the product comes from a plant that processes those other things as well.

                              However, dogs going off their food for no reason would alarm me.

                              In a book about Dalmatians the author suggested to only feed quality kibble: Dals are notorious for skin allergies, so if you feed only one kind of food there is less to eliminate.

                              On the same token they would also keep an old label on file for instances that the dog changes eating habits to compare to the current bag. They probably changed formula.


                              From what I have heard, I'd rather feed Pedigree before I opened my wallet for science diet...

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                              • #16
                                TOTW is an excellent line and I have never seen anything weird in the food in the years I have been feeding it. We go through 2 large bags per month. I haven't read of any contamination issues or seen much negative about this line reported anywhere other than dogs who just don't like the flavor.

                                I've never heard of corn killing a dog???? They can have allergies to it, yes, I have one of those. But I wasn't aware of an allergy to corn that is so severe they just crash and die. I wouldn't blame the food until I had a necropsy done on the animal and found the cause of death to be corn.

                                They don't just dump whole kernel corn into bags of dog food when it's made with corn, so the whole kernels you found were undoubtedly leftovers in the bagging machine process. Don't think that TOTW is now making their food with corn in it just because you found some whole kernels.

                                And like Alagirl said, I've found oddities in my own human food from the manufacturing process, and like she said, it's why allergy warnings are printed on non-allergy foods.

                                So I'm very sorry your dog died but it seems like you're jumping to conclusions without any evidence of why the dog really died.

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by Bluey View Post
                                  My 6 year old little dog was on Blue Buffalo lately and the last bag she would not hardly eat it, had much gas and stomach cramping after eating.
                                  After trying for a little, I bought quickly a bag of Science Diet and she is doing wonderful on it, eating and no more cramping or gas and is feeling young again.
                                  I know, that brand is rated very low by the experts, but if the dog does well, I guess that is what matters right now.
                                  Both were their regular adult small dog kinds.
                                  Will try another kind next.

                                  A few years ago I tried Solid Gold for a little bit and that clearly didn't agree with her at all, with diarrhea and vomiting.

                                  I don't know how consistent companies are about what they use and where from.

                                  That corn in the bag may have been an accident, but they need to be told about it, so they don't keep having accidents.

                                  Sorry about your dog.
                                  I'm not sure why you felt you had to go from a high end premium food down to the trashiest garbage food known to man? You could have tried another premium food - there are about 100 to pick from.

                                  Isn't that like saying "I'm allergic to shrimp and lobster so I'm going to eat McDonalds fries the rest of my life."

                                  And be aware that once dogs have been fed junk corn food their whole life and then are switched onto a high protein meat based food, most all of them WILL have gas, bloating, vomitting, diarehea, etc. If you lived on candy bars and cake and suddenly started eating 9 servings of fruits and vegetables a day, I guarantee you'd have a gutt ache too Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. When I adopted a vegetarian lifestyle I had to be careful because I was not accustomed to that much fiber.

                                  When I switched my dogs to a high protein premium food, I had to do it SLOWLY. Very slowly. And we have a horrible time with the stray who had been living on the street eating out of garbage cans. He had diarehea and gas for months when he came here. I actually had to buy him a bag of junk corn food and mix it with the high protein premium because his system could not handle that much protein. He just wasn't accustomed to it. He's now fine, but it was a long acclimation process.

                                  I learned a hard lesson the nasty way when I thought I was being smart and buying raw bones as a treat for my mutts. All 3 of them got a nice raw bone with a little meat left on it. That night we came home to dog crap ALL OVER our house. Literally. It was summer and they had even clawed a hole in the screen in the bedroom window trying to get out. NOW they can eat whatever meaty raw stuff they want and have no problem but it didn't start out that way.

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                                  • #18
                                    Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                                    TOTW is an excellent line and I have never seen anything weird in the food in the years I have been feeding it. We go through 2 large bags per month. I haven't read of any contamination issues or seen much negative about this line reported anywhere other than dogs who just don't like the flavor.

                                    I've never heard of corn killing a dog???? They can have allergies to it, yes, I have one of those. But I wasn't aware of an allergy to corn that is so severe they just crash and die. I wouldn't blame the food until I had a necropsy done on the animal and found the cause of death to be corn.

                                    They don't just dump whole kernel corn into bags of dog food when it's made with corn, so the whole kernels you found were undoubtedly leftovers in the bagging machine process. Don't think that TOTW is now making their food with corn in it just because you found some whole kernels.

                                    And like Alagirl said, I've found oddities in my own human food from the manufacturing process, and like she said, it's why allergy warnings are printed on non-allergy foods.

                                    So I'm very sorry your dog died but it seems like you're jumping to conclusions without any evidence of why the dog really died.
                                    Originally posted by Auventera Two View Post
                                    I'm not sure why you felt you had to go from a high end premium food down to the trashiest garbage food known to man? You could have tried another premium food - there are about 100 to pick from.

                                    Isn't that like saying "I'm allergic to shrimp and lobster so I'm going to eat McDonalds fries the rest of my life."

                                    And be aware that once dogs have been fed junk corn food their whole life and then are switched onto a high protein meat based food, most all of them WILL have gas, bloating, vomitting, diarehea, etc. If you lived on candy bars and cake and suddenly started eating 9 servings of fruits and vegetables a day, I guarantee you'd have a gutt ache too Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. When I adopted a vegetarian lifestyle I had to be careful because I was not accustomed to that much fiber.

                                    When I switched my dogs to a high protein premium food, I had to do it SLOWLY. Very slowly. And we have a horrible time with the stray who had been living on the street eating out of garbage cans. He had diarehea and gas for months when he came here. I actually had to buy him a bag of junk corn food and mix it with the high protein premium because his system could not handle that much protein. He just wasn't accustomed to it. He's now fine, but it was a long acclimation process.

                                    I learned a hard lesson the nasty way when I thought I was being smart and buying raw bones as a treat for my mutts. All 3 of them got a nice raw bone with a little meat left on it. That night we came home to dog crap ALL OVER our house. Literally. It was summer and they had even clawed a hole in the screen in the bedroom window trying to get out. NOW they can eat whatever meaty raw stuff they want and have no problem but it didn't start out that way.

                                    You missed the dogs not eating it anymore or doing poorly on it. No reason to continue feeding it when there is an albait cheaper (not SD though) alternative.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Alagirl View Post
                                      You missed the dogs not eating it anymore or doing poorly on it. No reason to continue feeding it when there is an albait cheaper (not SD though) alternative.
                                      I did not miss it, that was my point. If the dog isn't doing well on it, then switch, but don't switch to garbage food. Find another good food.

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                                      • #20
                                        The last dog I 'fostered' ate ToTW and Diamond naturals mixed with some yogurt. I am surprised to hear that you found corn in it. This particular dog couldn't keep most other foods down, including canidae, California Naturals, and Evo, I am not sure why. I never had a problem, but I would be concerned too, if it were me finding it and it's obviously not part of the ingredient list! I hope it was a sincere and unusual mistake.

                                        So sorry to hear about the loss of your dog.

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