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For what size trailer would *you* want a dually?

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  • For what size trailer would *you* want a dually?

    Just for kicks and giggles... I'm toying around with thoughts of new trucks and trailers. I just wanted to get a feeling about what trailer length (or weight) would you feel like you would need a dually the extra stability?

    Thanks everyone!
    Last edited by Snaffle81; Dec. 7, 2010, 02:43 PM. Reason: clarification
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    • #3
      Dually is great for added control of ANY trailer, you never get the slap of air pushing you over when a semi passes you. You have a lot more stopping ability if the trailer brakes should fail, with 6 tires working for you.

      So you might want to consider length, rather than just how many horses or what size horses, the trailer carries in thinking dually.

      I loved my dually, made an instant difference in trailer control on the roads. Extremely stable feeling when hauling, big or small trailers with big horses or empty, no sway to it whatever passed you or the weather winds hammering on you. Midwest driving is a place you meet lots of wind, dually makes a huge difference pulling the trailers.

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      • #4
        If you can afford a dually and the maintenance that goes with it, then buy a dually. Even with a small two horse BP (BP tend to sway more than GN) it will improve your towing abilities. Besides, you never know what kind of trailer you might end up with in the future.

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        • #5
          Bought my first dually before my first "real" trailer. I told the salesman that I was going trailer shopping and the last thing I wanted to worry about when I found the trailer of my dreams was whether or not my truck could pull it. I really do love the stability a dually adds when pulling anything.

          To answer the OP's question though, I wouldn't pull anything over a 3 horse without one. That's just my personal preference though.
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          • #6
            I think for normal towing a dually is a bit overkill on a two or three horse trailer, but with a camper added definitely much more stability. But it has to be a good reason to put up with the inconvenience of driving and parking through town.
            One hardly ever sees a dually without some damage to the wide fenders.
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              Originally posted by goodhors View Post
              Dually is great for added control of ANY trailer, you never get the slap of air pushing you over when a semi passes you. You have a lot more stopping ability if the trailer brakes should fail, with 6 tires working for you.

              So you might want to consider length, rather than just how many horses or what size horses, the trailer carries in thinking dually.

              I loved my dually, made an instant difference in trailer control on the roads. Extremely stable feeling when hauling, big or small trailers with big horses or empty, no sway to it whatever passed you or the weather winds hammering on you. Midwest driving is a place you meet lots of wind, dually makes a huge difference pulling the trailers.
              Whoops... poor wording. I did mean length. Thanks for your comments. I realize that a dually is great for added control and support for any trailer, but it's also a vehicle that is not for everyone. So I just wonder type of comfort level other people have. Thanks again!
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              • #8
                I drove a dually for years as my grocery getter, boat hauler, horse hauler and camper tow vehicle. I never hit the fenders. You have to give up drive thrus which really isn't such a bad thing. You find yourself parking in the back of parking lots but the walking is good for you. When I test drove the truck to buy it, the dealer wanted me to drive it up the mountain (I live near Lake Tahoe). I knew it could do that with no problem so instead I drove it through the grocery store parking lot because that is where I knew I would have problems. The truck and I passed the parking lot test with flying colors.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Foxtrot's View Post
                  I think for normal towing a dually is a bit overkill on a two or three horse trailer, but with a camper added definitely much more stability. But it has to be a good reason to put up with the inconvenience of driving and parking through town.
                  One hardly ever sees a dually without some damage to the wide fenders.

                  My husband told me that I would hate driving my dually everywhere and that I better not take the fenders off in a drive-thru . I actually LOVE driving my dually everywhere (except some very small parking garages ) and haven't hurt a fender yet in 12 years - even using drive-thrus. Knocking on wood furiously now .
                  Lapeer ... a small drinking town with a farming problem.
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                  • #10
                    Size/length of the trailer isn't a factor in dually selection. The major factor is the hitch weight of the trailer. This is the amount of weight the trailer puts on the truck. A dually can carry more weight than a 3/4 ton or class two truck. Minor factors are stability, tracking, and user preference.

                    I consider a single rear wheel (SRW) 350 truck just a tarted up 3/4 ton.
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                    • #11
                      I understand what people are saying about a dually being good for bumper pulls and smaller trailers. Yet in my area I don't see 4WD duallys virtually ever- especially a used one.
                      For the bumper pulls, for the type of driving I do, I prefer a 4WD pick-up. I park in too many muddy fields to have only 2WD.
                      I currently have a 2 horse BP, extra high/extra wide with dressing room.

                      If I lived in a different area of the country my preference might change.
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                      • #12
                        Are you talking about gooseneck or bumper pull trailers? Particularly for goosenecks, it's not so much the length as the width and the weight of the trailer.

                        I had an 18'-long, 84"-wide 2-horse bumper pull. Couldn't even tell it was back there behind the dually.

                        However, a dually will make a wider gooseneck much easier to pull. I had a 96" wide 4-horse slant with mid-tack and 16' living quarters trailer that was HEAVY (the whole setup, with one horse, weighed in at over 19,000 pounds). And LONG...I was almost as long as a tractor trailer. My dually pulled it fine, but didn't stop it as well as I thought it should. Had one too many close calls, so I sold that trailer and bought an 90" wide 5-horse head-to-head that pulls (and stops!) like a DREAM, even fully loaded.
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                        • #13
                          I have a dually that I drive everywhere, pulls a 4H BP, only thing I would change is make it 4WD...they're out there you just have to look!
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                          • #14
                            For anything other than a standard two horse straight or slant load, no dressing room or a very small one, go with the dually. I drove them for years. Have I downsized? Not at all. Now we use a motor home to pull our two horse!

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                              Eby Stock trailer.

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                                  I guess I am the odd girl out here. I do not like dually trucks at all for hauling. I find them too wide to park and terrible for traction in mud, snow conditions. I have a large 3 horse with living quarters (ie: heavy trailer) and haul mine with a 3/4 ton diesel single axle pick-up with no problems at all. When everyone at the horse shows are spinning their rear dually tires I just put my truck in low gear and go. Hardly anyone in my area tows trailers using the dually's anymore.

                                  I think if you are carrying a lot of weight in the rear bed then the extra tires would be great for the added support but for towing....no way!

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                                  • #18
                                    4 horse and up, or 3 horse with LQ.

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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by cherham View Post
                                      I guess I am the odd girl out here. I do not like dually trucks at all for hauling. I find them too wide to park and terrible for traction in mud, snow conditions. I have a large 3 horse with living quarters (ie: heavy trailer) and haul mine with a 3/4 ton diesel single axle pick-up with no problems at all. When everyone at the horse shows are spinning their rear dually tires I just put my truck in low gear and go. Hardly anyone in my area tows trailers using the dually's anymore.

                                      I think if you are carrying a lot of weight in the rear bed then the extra tires would be great for the added support but for towing....no way!
                                      Hmmmm... you must not have had experience with a 6 speed, 4 wheel drive dually.

                                      Oh, and duallys don't have double axels, they too are single axels in the rear (which is what I hope you meant in your post).

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                                      • #20
                                        Cherham,
                                        Do not know where you are located.
                                        But in Texas it is rare to see a single wheel 1 ton pulling a trailer. 4WD 1 ton dually 4 door or extended cab trucks are the norm.
                                        I will always have a 4WD dually 4 door truck.
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