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  • Barn Fans and Lighting

    Building a new barn. Would like to know/get ideas on lighting, and fans. Hubby said can do a "whole barn" type fan that will draw air through the whole barn but I was thinking more of individual fans, but over aisle or over stalls or some of both? Barn will be 36 x 48 with 4-12 x 12's w/dutch doors, sliders on both end of the barn 16' ceiling.

    Hot water heater or not? Fleeting idea of a heat lamp overhead in wash stall for those cold baths and drying out faster????

    Lighting, how to chase the shadows away inside stalls and aisleway??? Floods on the outside of barn? (on a switch not motion sensor) For bringing in after dark, currently no electric what so ever so I have to bring in before dark, which means by about 5:30 in the winter once I have electric they can stay out after dark for another hour or 2. I like to let them out for about 12 hours a day minimum.

    Thanks for your input and the wisdom of your experience
    "They spend 11 months stuggling to live, and 25 years trying to die" my farrier

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  • #2
    Assuming the height in the stalls will be much less than 16', use vapor-tight fixtures with 100 Watt-equivalent CFL bulbs located in center of stall, or if the dividers don't go all the way to the ceiling, over the dividers. Use two fixtures in the wash rack.

    Use conventional fixtures and 100 Watt-equivalent CFL floodlights in the center aisle. These can also be used in the stalls if the ceiling is high enough that the horses can't rear up and strike them.

    Duplex outlet at each stall located about 7' above grade, wired to ground fault breakers. They can be used for fans on timers or heated buckets. Use wire for the grounding -- don't rely on any metal conduit for the ground path! Conduit and fittings below a certain level are supposed to be non-corrosive.

    Make sure whoever does the electrical installation is familiar with the codes for dairies and barns. Most electricians aren't!

    Use a flash (instant on) water heater for the wash rack. The drain should be a 6" rather than 4" line and well-sloped. Use a sweep elbow beneath the grate to make it easy to run a drain snake past. The grate should be heavy steel and not cast pot metal. You could have a machine shop fabricate a drain grate from 1/4" steel plate.

    If you live in a lightning-prone area, now is the time to consider lightning rods and have a proper ground grid installed. There are several websites that provide information regarding them. Make sure the instructions are followed to the letter. This is an area that contractors WILL take shortcuts!
    Last edited by Frank B; Sep. 21, 2010, 10:21 AM.
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    • #3
      I like high motion controlled floods for outside the barn. I've seen the deer get close but run as soon as they come on.

      We put solar lights at either side of the barn doors. They are perfect---come on at night and expire by morning. Therefore if I forget night lights, they come on and go off automatically and are safe.

      We put our fans up over the stall doors, pointing to the middle of each stall, so the outlets are up in the top of the stalls to avoid any extension cords (big no no). They are high enough so the horses can't get them.

      We have outlets near the water buckets outside the stalls, with holes drilled, for heated buckets. They are up high enough not to get kicked by horses in the aisle.

      I do not like fluorescents in the winter, so we use regular light bulbs in every stall and the aisles, but they are encased in fixtures for barn use and partially recessed in the rafters.

      Add more lights/fixtures than you think you need, to be safe.
      Put the main light outlet as close to the most used barn door as possible.

      Put a fire extinguisher at each door as well.

      Install smoke alarms at peaks.

      Run a 220 line.

      Get the best electrician you can afford. You'll sleep better at night.



      • #4
        I have two 100 watt vapor tight fixtures on the front wall in each stall about 9-10' high. If you light directly over the center of the stall the horse's body will cast a shadow on the his legs. It might not bug some people but I don't care for that. I also have 4 100 watt vapor tight fixtures in my wash stall--two on each wall so the horse is lit on all four "corners." Plugs at all for corners too with a switch for the wash stall fan. I am thinking I might come back with some sort of bright "kleg" type lights high on either side of the wash stall. There are times I wish I had more light in there for things like wound care

        I also have gooseneck barn lights running down each side of my aisle as well as outside over the center aisle doors on each end. My barn aisle lights are on dimmers which is handy for the occasional wedding or party.

        I love that my fans are on switches at the front of the stalls--the plug is at 10' and the fans are on the center of the back wall blowing toward the aisle. This helps move air in the aisle as well since I have grills for stall doors. I have two stalls on a single light and fan switch, but each stall has plugs on the outside walls. I wired to allow for some "big ass" fans but the barn has been sited to catch the breeze and it is only the stillest of days that I don't have a breeze down the aisle so I never installed them.

        Another thing I did was to put in a fuse box that I can plug a generator into if I lose power. That way I can prevent the tack room pipes from freezing.

        If you do a hot water on demand system make sure your electrician knows up front. They draw an incredible amount of electricity and you have to set your wiring up for it. For us the cost to increase the amps coming into the barn to handle one was significant. I have an old fashion low boy water heater and it has been very inexpensive to run with 3 horses.


        • #5
          Here is a great site with good prices on barn lighting and industrial fans as well as arena lighting. I have ceiling fans in my barn and it helps a lot, although this summer was so hot I also used box fans on the stall fronts (horses in during the day).

          Fernhill Warmbloods