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How much would it cost to equip an '04 Lexus RX 330 for hauling a trailer?

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  • How much would it cost to equip an '04 Lexus RX 330 for hauling a trailer?

    I've been dying to get a trailer for months now, but don't want the added expenses of buying and maintaining a truck. According to both Lexus and Consumer Reports, the RX can tow 3500 pounds. I have a pony that's about 800 pounds, and I'm very sure the loaded weight on a 2-horse (aluminum, especially) would fall under that limit.

    So, does anyone know what it would cost to outfit my SUV for towing? (And not at the dealer, if possible-- they REALLY price-gouge you) Do you just need the hitch and wiring stuff put on (can you tell I really don't know anything about this?), or is it rteally necessary to get the transmission cooling thing and all that?


    Please tell me it's not in the $1,000-plus range!

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    Sorry, but this sounds like a suicide mission. You might be able to haul a boat trailer or a Uhaul with it, but a live load???? Your wheelbase would be way too short for safety. You'd never stop the rig. The trailer would be waving the car all over the road. Just don't see how this could be safe no matter how much money you put into it.
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    • #3
      There is no amount of money you could pay me to put my horse behind that thing. Please don't go there. No, you don't have to have a ginormous truck, but your little Lexus is not a safe tow vehicle and is not heavy or long enough to counterbalance a horse trailer.
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      • #4
        Tiki is right. You really don't want to belly up close to the manufacturer's claimed tow rating with life weight. And you will, even with a modest two-horse and pony. Or rather, you'll get much closer to it than do most of us choosing tow vehicles for moving horses.

        Manufacturers can also get a little optimistic about what their vehicles can move. But stopping is another matter, and so is holding a trailer straight when, say, a semi blows by you.

        In addition to an engine powerful enough, you also need the right brakes, wheelbase and suspension. You also need a better tranny than comes in an SUV not really expected to haul lots or haul often. I say this because when you trash yours, you are looking at a repair that can run $3-4K. If this is your daily driver, you are asking to be forced to spend this money. Odds are that will happen at a really inconvenient moment.
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        • #5
          You've got to be KIDDING ME.

          FWIW, the Liberty Trailers website puts the average weight of a two horse at 2,600 lbs with no dressing room.
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          • #6
            Yeah, sorry Sparkling, but I'm in the "Never in a Million Years" club too.

            The ability of a vehicle to Tow a load is not the issue.... it's the ability of the vehicle to Stabilize the load (especially live load) and to Stop the load should the trailer brakes fail.

            Towing with that vehicle is a recipe for disaster.
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            • #7
              Do NOT do it. And I own one of those vehicles; it's a slight as any sedan on the market.

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              • #8
                There are plenty of safe SUV + trailer set-ups, but I wouldn't attempt it with anything rated that low. I pull a Brenderup with a Jeep Grand Cherokee rated to 7200 lbs. (and yes, you really do need a transmission cooler)

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                • #9
                  don't do it!

                  You should hitch a ride with friends until you are ready to get a truck. I used to have a gmc 1500, and I traded it in for a 2500 because you need a truck with the power to accelerate and brake in traffic. My 1500 would sound like it was going to blow up when I tried to accelerate while pulling a 2 horse aluminum bumper pull. You also need to think about how far you will be driving, and if you will be comfortable on the interstate and in heavy traffic in a vehicle that cannot accelerate/brake very well. You can push the limits with your car or a light duty truck, but imho you are taking a chance with the transmission and other things. People tried to tell me this when I was getting started, and I found out on my own that their advice was right!!!

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                  • #10
                    It says here the towing capacity is 2000 lbs http://www.autotrader.com/research/car-models/2004-Lexus-RX-330/5144-109522-SUV/-4dr-SUV~specifications.jsp?vehicle_number=109522&ad_mi n_price=&ad_max_price=
                    Front wheel drive too.
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                    • #11
                      My friend did it. She has a 1 horse Brenderup. Don't do it.

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                      • #12
                        Suicide. Don't do it.

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                        • #13
                          You may have noticed that Europeans haul horse trailers all the time with vehicles of similar towing capacity. They use trailers that have a different engineering than what we consider to be the norm in the U.S.

                          Before you make up your mind, google Brenderup and get one of their DVDs. They make european style trailers in the US. They use inertia brakes and have wonderful suspensions for your horse' legs.

                          I tow my Friesian easily with my Subaru Outback using a Brenderup trailer. People that have never tried them make up scary stories about them but they are very safe. People who own them seem to love them. Having said all this, I have no idea what Lexus you have.

                          There is also a review of them on Mr. Trailer - and he says they are the best trailer he has ever towed.

                          I had assumed that my Subaru outback with its towing capacity of 2700 would not be suitable as a towing vehicle. Further research and actual experience proved that wrong.

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                          • #14
                            About $30,000 - 40,000, which is what it will cost for a new F250, Sierra 2500 or Ram 2500. You could go cheaper by buying a used model referenced above but there is no way I would tow with a Lexus RX 330 or any of the SUV's with very few exceptions, those being possibly an Excursion or full size Suburban and then only very rarely on very straight level roads.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sparkling_Sunset View Post
                              I've been dying to get a trailer for months now, but don't want the added expenses of buying and maintaining a truck. According to both Lexus and Consumer Reports, the RX can tow 3500 pounds. I have a pony that's about 800 pounds, and I'm very sure the loaded weight on a 2-horse (aluminum, especially) would fall under that limit.

                              So, does anyone know what it would cost to outfit my SUV for towing? (And not at the dealer, if possible-- they REALLY price-gouge you) Do you just need the hitch and wiring stuff put on (can you tell I really don't know anything about this?), or is it rteally necessary to get the transmission cooling thing and all that?


                              Please tell me it's not in the $1,000-plus range!
                              If you're worried about $1k, this is not the path for you. The hitch alone will be over $500, and the only trailer that would be even remotely suitable would be a Brenderup.

                              Unless you're hauling every week, it's always cheaper (not necessarily more convenient) to hire someone to haul you.

                              And if you really want your own trailer, you'd be better off financially finding an old beater truck.
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                                #16
                                Sheesh. You don't have to be so nasty to get a point across. It's not YOUR vehicle.

                                If this is the kind of replies this thread is going to bring, I'd rather not have anymore. I've got enough on my plate with the crazy stupid BO where I'm at right now. (And will thankfully be leaving from soon)

                                And for for the record, there is an older guy at the place I'm at that owns an old Chevy Nova form the 60's or 70's that he tows an old STEEL 2-horse with. That's not exactly a truck, nor is his trailer a Brenderup, Featherlite, Sundowner, or other aluminum make on the market.

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                                • #17
                                  I would not do it because this particular model of vehicle has had less than favorable reviews for steering and breaking and has been rated fairly high for rollover accidents. Adding a trailer to that equation would not be a good thing in my opinion.
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                                  • #18
                                    Sheesh. You don't have to be so nasty to get a point across. It's not YOUR vehicle.
                                    No one is being nasty. They're trying to prevent you from doing something stupid and getting killed, or killing your horse.

                                    That being said, NO, it's not our vehicle, but if you wipe out, you might hurt one of us, so yeah, it is our problem.

                                    And, um, you asked. And you're being told in no uncertain terms why you shouldn't do it. You state in your original post that you know NOTHING about hauling. This much is obvious. But please, get the chip off your shoulder and read what people are telling you - hauling a 2 horse with this would be a very bad idea, even if your pony itself doesn't weigh a lot.
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Sparkling_Sunset View Post
                                      Sheesh. You don't have to be so nasty to get a point across. It's not YOUR vehicle.

                                      If this is the kind of replies this thread is going to bring, I'd rather not have anymore. I've got enough on my plate with the crazy stupid BO where I'm at right now. (And will thankfully be leaving from soon)

                                      And for for the record, there is an older guy at the place I'm at that owns an old Chevy Nova form the 60's or 70's that he tows an old STEEL 2-horse with. That's not exactly a truck, nor is his trailer a Brenderup, Featherlite, Sundowner, or other aluminum make on the market.
                                      Oh sweetie, comparing your Lexus engine to the giant 350 block sitting in that Chevy makes me !! That Chevy engine has more than enough power to move a trailer, in addition to weighing about twice (or more!) what your tiny Lexus does. It also has significantly more horsepower and torque than your Lexus. That's WHY people could tow big trailers....cause the cars were BIG and HEAVY with GIANT engines!

                                      Apples and oranges!

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                                      • #20
                                        The hitch for material costs only will be several hundred dollars depending on what type of hitch you purchase.
                                        Add labor costs.

                                        Then the wiring- a basic kit for the standard trailer is around $50.

                                        A brake controller starts at around $80.

                                        Of course add labor in for wiring and brake controller installation.

                                        You will certainly need anti sway bars to handle the load shift. Again several hundred dollars.

                                        You'll want to upgrade you brakes and rear suspension to handle the hitch weight.

                                        Knowing the LA area- if you are hauling anywhere out of the city/valley- you'll encounter considerable grades. Enter in here the hauling power and transmission needs which will strain your vehicle. So you'll need to talk to your mechanic about addressing that subject with possible upgrades.

                                        I'm thinking by rough estimate- starting at about a grand and going up quickly- very quickly. You'd probably hit $3-5K before you know it- when you get in all the estimates.

                                        Take a drive out to the inland empire- oodles of used trucks out here. You can pick up a decent condition truck already set-up for towing for maybe $5000. Insurance would be cheap on said vehicle since you don't have to insure it like a leased or liened vehicle. It'll save money in the long run as you won't max out and possible damage your everyday car.

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