• Welcome to the Chronicle Forums.
    Please complete your profile. The forums and the rest of www.chronofhorse.com has single sign-in, so your log in information for one will automatically work for the other. Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are the views of the individual and do not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of The Chronicle of the Horse.

Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You’re responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it—details of personal disputes are likely better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts that violate these rules. Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting, but administrators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts upon request.

Outright inflammatory, vulgar, harassing, malicious or otherwise inappropriate statements and criminal charges unsubstantiated by a reputable news source or legal documentation will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it’s understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users’ profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses – Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it’s related to a horse for sale, regardless of who’s selling it, it doesn’t belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions – Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services – Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products – While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements – Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be “bumped” excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues – Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators’ discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the “alert” button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your “Ignore” list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you’d rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user’s membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 1/26/16)
See more
See less

Frost free hydrant-how do you tell if its leaking

Collapse
X
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Frost free hydrant-how do you tell if its leaking

    ok, I have a frost free hydrant at my outdoor wash stalls. It was put in a place where my horses would get a lead wrapped around it and pull it out of the ground. Once it came competely out of the ground and had to be fixed, once it just came loose-pipe would move several inches.

    Ok, so I started noticing water pooling at the bottom so I assumed it was leaking underground. I called a plumber out to fix it. He said that the water I saw was just the water the frost free just sucked back out of the pipe (hence-what makes it frost free). Well, they charge $80 just to come out so I went ahead and had him move the hydrant away from where the horses can get to it. Underground it uses pex (?)-flexible plastic lines.

    I still see water pooling under the hydrant. It has been dry here for 2-3 weeks. I don't even use this hydrant every day, maybe once or twice a week. Is this sucker leaking or am I paranoid? Its enough water that my dogs drink from the puddle.
    www.abernathyfarm.com

  • #2
    In my novice opinion- it is leaking. When the water sucks back into the pipeline from the hydrant- it should not exit the pipes anywhere. I'm sure someone else will post with more detail- but I say yes it is leaking and I'd call the guy back out to fix it since he didn't reinstall it correctly.

    Comment


    • #3
      The hydrant should be letting the water back down into the ground, not on top of the ground. Ours has to be 3 foot below ground so that is is below the frost level. If you were using it ALOT, you might see some on top, but I haven't. Anytime I've seen water on the ground level it is because the hydrant needs to be tightened at the top and you should see it leaking down the pipe to the ground.
      Judy

      Comment


      • #4
        There should be no water, apart from what you spill on the ground when using the hydrant, around the base of the hydrant. If it is draining out of the stand pipe, as it is supposed to, and the plumber didn't give it a good drainage sump, then yes, that water could eventually migrate up to the surface and that, IMHO is not a good thing. At that point, sump water filled and rising up the stand pipe, your stand pipe cannot drain fully and the whole frost free feature has been disabled. We had one that didn't fail due to freezing, it failed due to persistent soaking from a too small drainage sump causing it to rust through at a weak point.
        If you haven't used the hydrant at all for a while then yes, you may have a leak in the hydrant innards or somewhere in the pipe. You'll have to dig it up to find out but I think that if you look up Tom Kings old posts he has links and info on how to take them apart.
        Courageous Weenie Eventer Wannabe
        Incredible Invisible

        Comment


        • #5
          Let's start over.

          Water is supposed to run down out of the pipe on a freeze proof hydrant. That's the way it remains freezeproof. It is not "sucked back out", but simply drains by gravity above the cutoff washer below the drain hole near the bottom. When you pull the handle up to let the water flow the drain hole is closed by the washer holding assembly at the bottom. When you push the handle down, it pushes the washer down to shut the flow off at the bottom and opens the drain hole.

          If you are seeing water pooling at the bottom, it most likely does not have enough open space to drain into underground like it needs. Probably when it got pulled up the rock under it got filled with dirt.

          I like to bury an 8" cinder block vetically under one and use a wheelbarrow full of clean crushed rock around that. The important part about having rock under it is not the rock, but the spaces between the rocks.

          The water needs to have somewhere to go out the bottom quickly so it doesn't stay in the stand pipe long enough to freeze.

          It probably needs to be dug up again and the drain system improved.
          www.HistoricHousePreservation.com

          Comment

          Working...
          X