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  • Moths or ? in Dog Biscuit Box?

    I buy the extra large box of Milk Bone dog biscuits for our dog. I have done this for over a year with no problems.

    This latest box is about 2/3 empty and there are some sort of flying insects in it!

    I put the box into the garage and took out each biscuit and inspected it carefully. I put all of the "clean" biscuits into a tightly sealed plastic container.

    Are the biscuits still okay for our dog to eat?

    SCM1959

  • #2
    probably, after all some of the less attractive things dogs eat are eaten with gusto. However, if you .really. are worried, freeze the biscuits for 2 weeks to kill anything.

    anything that is grain based can attract moths...and biscuits are usually corn based.

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    • #3
      They might be Indian Meal Moths, and once they get into your kitchen they're tough to get rid of. You can get traps at Home Depot, Lowe's etc. They are cardboard tent-shaped things with a sticky attractant that will work for up to 3 months, or so. Once you don't see any moths stuck on the traps, you're good. Check your cereals, mixes, crackers, etc and toss anything with the bugs in them and wash your cupboards. Good luck.

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        #4
        Oh yuck, I think Indian Meal Moths are what these things are. I googled for an image and it looks just like what I saw in the box. Ugh.

        Dog Biscuits going into the freezer right now.

        Luckily, I keep the biscuits in the laundry room because that is where our dog's bed is. Nowhere near the kitchen!

        I will get the traps tomorrow to be sure that I get rid of them.

        Thank you so much! COTH is the place to go with any question about anything at all!!

        SCM1959

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        • #5
          I think they are what weevils turn into when they grow up. The eggs were already in the biscuits, and hatched out into weevils, then turned into moths. They will get into anything that is cereal or organic based. In the past I've had them in Milk Bone, a couple of other brands of biscuits, boxed spices (celery or caraway seeds-they must have been many years old because spices come in jars now), cotton seed meal (used for yard fertilizer), will come out of really old breakfast cereal, cake mixes etc that are very old. You need to go through anything else that's open and see if there any weevils in anything else. And freezing biscuits didn't kill mine off, they rehatched while waiting for trash day in the see through container (I didn't have the guts to keep and try the biscuits after I froze them).
          You can't fix stupid-Ron White

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            #6
            Okay, now throwing away biscuits! They are not that expensive and I do not want any more of those things in my house! EEWWW.

            I am so glad that the kitchen is not close to the laundry room.

            SCM1959

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            • #7
              I've had issues in the past with Milk Bones brand biscuits, and I don't buy them any more. Worst case came from Wal-Mart!

              I've got those moths in my barn, and I put out the traps yesterday, and so far they have not caught a single moth. I'm a bit dissappointed in that.
              There are friends and faces that may be forgotten, but there are horses that never will be. - Andy Adams

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SCM1959 View Post
                Oh yuck, I think Indian Meal Moths are what these things are. I googled for an image and it looks just like what I saw in the box. Ugh.
                Oh those are the WORST! I got them when we moved my MIL and I took kitchen dry goods home. I battled them for months, throwing out all cake mixes etc and sealing things in plastic containers. They chew through the seals and lay their eggs, and put webby crap in all your corn meal, oatmeal etc.
                Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans

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                • #9
                  Moths wont hurt the dogs, even if he eats them. They will however invade your cupboards are had to evict, lols!

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                  • #10
                    The biscuits are probably fine for the dog. They're not exactly nutritionally dense to start with, so the bugs aren't taking much.

                    When we lived overseas, all our dry goods, pet food, etc., had to go through the freezer. I have vivid memories of helping my mom sift weevils out of flour and catfood before we froze it. It only takes a few hours in the freezer to kill everything. Once weevils or grain moths are loose in your kitchen... Major PITA to get rid of.

                    FYI: If anyone has a kid doing a bug collection for school, freezing the bugs is the best way to kill them so that they stay dry and flexible for positioning.
                    "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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                    • #11
                      I never thought of freezing! Heck, we had them so bad, I would have gladly turned off the water and left the house open for a winter's day and frozen all the little ba$#@rd$. They were that bad.
                      Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans

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                      • #12
                        ugh - they are impossible to evict once they take hold. I once spent an entire day in my kitchen dealing with this when all I wanted to do was make pasta salad. A 15 minute task turned into a 6 hour cleaning spree.

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                        • #13
                          Throw them OUT. If they've been in your kitchen cupboard, throw away any open containers of flour, oatmeal, or cereal also. I call them "pantry moths" but there is probably a more scientific name for them. They will get into any sort of cereal/flour product and you will be infested.

                          Keep every sort of open dog treats/cat kibble/flour etc in ziplock bags or other sealed tupperware-type containers for a month or so to make sure there aren't any re-infestations.
                          I realize that I'm generalizing here, but as is often the case when I generalize, I don't care. ~ Dave Barry

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                          • #14
                            Yuck, I had these in my pantry. I had to literally take everything out, rinse everything off and put everything back AND scrub the walls since they were laying eggy cacoons in the corners!!!! It was such a PIA. They got into unopened boxes and would "nest" in the tops of unopened cans. I attributed it to leaving my patio door open with no screen so my doggies could go in and out. Not any more. Now I never leave my patio door open for more then a second without the screen....

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by islgrl View Post
                              ugh - they are impossible to evict once they take hold. I once spent an entire day in my kitchen dealing with this when all I wanted to do was make pasta salad. A 15 minute task turned into a 6 hour cleaning spree.
                              sounds like my "experience" with them!

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by islgrl View Post
                                A 15 minute task turned into a 6 hour cleaning spree.
                                That's been my experience with weevils. And it wasn't even my kitchen. I was at my mom's house, pulled something out of the cabinet, and realized that the whole place had become weevilized. It started with a bag of dogfood that had been thrown out, but I guess with the main source gone, they decided to set up camp in the cabinet. And I want to know, how do they even manage to get into sealed containers?
                                "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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                                • #17
                                  they can chew tiny holes into plastic.

                                  You got grain stuff, you got bugs.
                                  and dogfood is 90% grains these days

                                  after reading this thread I looked at my birdseed, and sure enough, the 1 qt container has moths in it, the other one I dumped in the front yards for the wild birds to eat, seeds and bugs...it's been dry....

                                  The other one, not sure yet, the parakeets need something to eat till I can go to the store...

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                                  • #18
                                    My birdseed I keep in the old chest freezer in the barn has those moths in it. Doesnt matter WHAT I do, cant get them to go away b/c as soon as I buy a new bag, they are back. I HATE them and we had them in the house years ago.. took forever to get rid of them.
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                                    • #19
                                      I used to be a licensed pest control professional and here are a few things I know: Indian meal moths and "weevils" are not the same critter, however they are just as hard to control and they both love dried foods, flour, pasta, etc. They are one of the main reason I always recommended to customers that they NEVER store pet food where they store their own food. Pet food is a notorious vector for these pests to invade your home. In fact, it was an indian meal moth that was the first "bug" in computer bugs....one got stuck on circuitry in a computer and caused it to malfunction. When the technician opened the computer he found the moth, upon removal the computer worked again.

                                      While freezing the biscuits will kill the moths and their larvae it might not kill the eggs so care should be taken to isolate the biscuits once they thaw. If they were at my house I would just throw them out. It is not a good idea to buy more biscuits or dog food than your dog can consume in 2 weeks.
                                      "My biggest fear is that when I die my husband is going to try to sell all my horses and tack for what I told him they cost."

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                                      • #20
                                        About those moths, they also like rat poison. My friend and former BO had a problem with rats in the tackroom, so she got one of those poison feeder box type things with the big rat blocks. The rats never touched them. The moths loved them! Now what does that say when the damn things can feast on rat poison and not die!
                                        "I did know once, only I've sort of forgotten." - Winnie the Pooh

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