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    Trailer + truck, what would you do?

    I currently have a Chevy Silverado 1500 and a older steel 2 horse slant load bumper pull. I am looking at upgrading, but not sure what I want to do, or what order to do it in.

    1. I eventually want to upgrade the truck to a 4 wheel drive. Currently I have to get others to help with getting the trailer out if it has rained at all due to the clay based soil on property. It just gets so slippery as soon as the rain starts. So if I am going to upgrade to 4WD, I want to go ahead and upgrade to a 2500 as well I think.

    2. I want to upgrade the trailer. It has served me well, but 1 of my horses doesn't fit very well in the front stall. If we have 2 longer horses to trailer, one is cramped. Also the full steel trailer with 2 horses is a little much on the truck I feel like. So thinking about upgrading to a newer al trailer. If I keep the same truck, just a different 2 horse bumper pull that will better fit the big TBs. If I was to upgrade the truck, we get into bumper pull vs gooseneck. which I think I would like a gooseneck for that extra storage. But not sure since I have never had a gooseneck.

    3. Straight load vs slant load? I have only had my slant load. And everyone else that we have traveled with has mostly had the slant since they have larger trailers. If I am sticking with a 2 horse, which direction should I be looking? I am pretty sure I do not want mangers no matter which way I go to give the horses more room.

    What would you upgrade first? And what would you upgrade to?

    #2
    Having just gone through a heck of a lot of math and struggle myself, I'd recommend running at the numbers before buying/selling anything. I suspect you might struggle to find a gooseneck for two large horses that won't go over the Silverado 1500 payload. Depends on the specific numbers for your truck, but it is pretty easy to go over. I can get more specific on the math if you want.

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      #3
      would be less expensive to put gravel down or pavement

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        #4
        Consider a stock trailer.
        I have owned both BP & GN, straight & slant, with & w/o ramp.
        Current trailer is 16' stock BP with center gate, step-up.
        It is by far my favorite trailer.

        In a pinch all 3 of my horses can easily load in it (16h TWH, 13h Pony & 35" mini).
        I drive the mini & both carts - wire EZ-Entry & fancy wood road cart - fit in the front, mini goes behind the gate in back.

        I haul now with 6cyl SUV, but would get an F150 or similar if budget allowed.
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          #5
          Originally posted by leighbo009 View Post
          I currently have a Chevy Silverado 1500 and a older steel 2 horse slant load bumper pull. I am looking at upgrading, but not sure what I want to do, or what order to do it in.

          1. I eventually want to upgrade the truck to a 4 wheel drive. Currently I have to get others to help with getting the trailer out if it has rained at all due to the clay based soil on property. It just gets so slippery as soon as the rain starts. So if I am going to upgrade to 4WD, I want to go ahead and upgrade to a 2500 as well I think.
          Just keep in mind that if you have 4WD on your truck it decreases tow cap.

          Upgrading the trailer and potentially changing the type of tires on your truck, adding some gravel in the drive (crushed recycled asphalt is cheaper and works fine) may be better in the long run. Newer trailers are now lighter, and if you get some gravel under the wheels, you will have better traction.

          Last edited by angelssix; Jun. 27, 2020, 06:52 AM. Reason: typo
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            #6
            If you have big horses, IMO straight load is better for the reason you already mentioned. I also like having access to either horse - no one is "stuck" in the front stall. Remember newer trucks especially 4WD are higher and that might affect the hitch you need for your existing trailer to travel level.

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              #7
              You are talking about spending quite a bit of money to upgrade both. If money isn't an issue, I'd get the 2500 series truck (i like having more truck when hauling) and a warm blood size bumper pull. I've never hauled a gooseneck but the bonus is you get sleeping quarters in the tack room too. This would come in handy if showing or camping with horses. They say goosenecks ride nicer too. Otherwise, what is the bigger pain? The slippery surface or the fact one horse rides a bit squished? You can likely sell your current trailer and get an aluminum one used with a little more cash.

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                #8
                Skip a straight load. I had a BP straight load and all the horses despised it. Was a pain to unload horses.

                We upgraded to a 16 foot gooseneck stock. All the horses have loaded great (we do have 5+ horses) but we have a 2014 dodge 3500. If money isn’t an issue I’d upgrade to a 2500 with whatever necessary tow package and a warm blood sized trailer.
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                  #9
                  Decide what your "needs" are vs your "wants."

                  ​​​​​I would probably get a newer truck over a trailer. A good trailer will last a very long time with maintenance. My last steel trailer lasted 20 years. The weight of your trailer won't be an issue with a better truck. As for your horse not fitting well in a slant, have you tried turning the horse backwards? I often let my horses trailer with the one in the back slant facing forward and the one in the front facing backwards. It gives the bigger horse more room because they put their head over the divider.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by streamline View Post
                    Skip a straight load. I had a BP straight load and all the horses despised it. Was a pain to unload horses.

                    We upgraded to a 16 foot gooseneck stock. All the horses have loaded great (we do have 5+ horses) but we have a 2014 dodge 3500. If money isn’t an issue I’d upgrade to a 2500 with whatever necessary tow package and a warm blood sized trailer.
                    Please explain how it was a pain to unload....... I can take out either horse first. Maybe yours did not have a divided butt bar? Maybe the center divider did not have a pin to secure it when the butt bars were down? Maybe there wasnt an escape door on both sides so you could untie a horse?

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by lorilu View Post

                      Please explain how it was a pain to unload....... I can take out either horse first. Maybe yours did not have a divided butt bar? Maybe the center divider did not have a pin to secure it when the butt bars were down? Maybe there wasnt an escape door on both sides so you could untie a horse?
                      Older style 2 horse BP, horse would not back out. I ended up pulling the center divider out and would turn him around in the trailer. He just wasn’t comfortable in it and it wasn’t worth the hassle. He loads/unloads great in the stock. Even backs out of it.
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                        #12
                        A point about the gooseneck is you have to climb into the bed of the trailer to hook it up. which can be harder the older you get...
                        also, I always want more truck than I need. It is not about the pulling but the stopping.
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                          #13
                          I upgraded to a 3/4 ton 4x4 and a two horse gooseneck. LOVE IT. I'm still getting used to backing it but it is so much more stable on the road. My fiance's horse is 17.1 so I wanted a bigger trailer and truck to handle him, and I went with a straight load where I got the extra height and didn't need to waste a 3rd stall.

                          I will never ever ever buy a truck that isn't 4X4. You never need it until someone's towing you out.

                          I did go with an older 3/4 ton and a steel 2 horse gooseneck for my budget but I love it.
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                            #14
                            I would get a gooseneck straight load with a ramp. No built in mangers (chest bar instead) so that the horses have the ability to lower their necks to keep their airways healthy. Travelling straighten gives them the ability to evenly distribute weight throughout their body, whereas slant puts a lot of pressure on right front/left hind for balance. You will love having a gooseneck both for storage, camping ability, and it pulls SO MUCH better than a bumper. Have fun shopping!

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by caevent View Post
                              I would get a gooseneck straight load with a ramp. No built in mangers (chest bar instead) so that the horses have the ability to lower their necks to keep their airways healthy. Travelling straighten gives them the ability to evenly distribute weight throughout their body, whereas slant puts a lot of pressure on right front/left hind for balance. You will love having a gooseneck both for storage, camping ability, and it pulls SO MUCH better than a bumper. Have fun shopping!
                              Agree with all of this. I upgraded last year from Nissan Titan 4WD and SL bumper pull w/tackroom to a SL gooseneck w/ escape doors on both sides (chest bars), no back dividing pole so I can push the divider all the way over. I have put a very simple cabinet and mattress in the tack room, just right if it's easier to stay on the show grounds. 350 Dually is overkill but it was a package deal so...... It is SO much easier to pull. I had a mirror installed on the hitch that shows me the bed of my truck and makes hitching up easy-peasy..... I carry a 2 step stepladder in the bed to help me in and out.

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                                #16
                                I have a 4 horse stock trailer and there is a door to access the front part for the horse. I found slant loads are too short for my horses. I typically tow two but have put four on it easily. Have a new F250 trailer ready super duty Ford and love it so much. So much better than the old days when you had to go through adding a brake box etc. it was ready from day one to tow. Love my Sundowner stock trailer too. It's been everywhere, like muddy fields.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by clanter View Post
                                  would be less expensive to put gravel down or pavement
                                  That only helps at home. I am at a horse show and am parked on grass. A few of the parks I go to we park on grass. In my area it isn't practical to not have 4 wheel drive. It also snows here so having the 4 wheel drive is nice for that
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                                    #18
                                    Be aware that aluminum trailers aren't any lighter than their steel counterparts. They have to use thicker aluminum to match steel's strength so they end up weighing about the same in the end.
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by streamline View Post
                                      Skip a straight load. I had a BP straight load and all the horses despised it. Was a pain to unload horses.
                                      Opposite experience here, horse kicked the boogersnot out of my ex's super cushy slant, rides fine in my Trailet New Yorker. Not sure how unloading was any different from a slant; horse walks in, horse backs out (worms play pinochle on my snout...)

                                      OP you are talking about dropping serious dough here. If you are a position where you can, awesome. If you are buying new, trucks have upgraded significantly. Otherwise yes, go for a 2500. Trailers are, as you see, personal preference. Go look at a bunch.
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by lorilu View Post
                                        If you have big horses, IMO straight load is better for the reason you already mentioned. I also like having access to either horse - no one is "stuck" in the front stall. Remember newer trucks especially 4WD are higher and that might affect the hitch you need for your existing trailer to travel level.
                                        OP, they don't make 4WD trucks in the 1/2 range, so you'll be getting a 3/4 ton with that feature anyway.

                                        They make hitches of all different heights; putting one on your 4WD is not a big deal nor major expense.

                                        Also, you will spend more for the 4WD 3/4 ton than the 2WD version.

                                        That said, if I were in your spot, I'd do this one of two ways:

                                        If the 4WD was really the major feature I wanted in this whole rig, I'd look for a used version of that truck first and limp along with my older steel trailer for the time-being.

                                        Later on, I'd get a stock trailer-- cheaper and bigger and also very inviting for horses--when I could afford it/my wallet had recovered from the truck purchase.

                                        Or, if the 4WD is a "nice to have" but not necessary, I'd prowl around for a used stock trailer now/first. Those trailers are a bit lighter than enclosed ones and still have the advantages listed above.

                                        Good luck in your search!
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