Announcement

Collapse

Forum rules and no-advertising policy

As a participant on this forum, it is your responsibility to know and follow our rules. Please read this message in its entirety.

Board Rules

1. You're responsible for what you say.
As outlined in Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act, The Chronicle of the Horse and its affiliates, as well Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., the developers of vBulletin, are not legally responsible for statements made in the Forums.

This is a public forum viewed by a wide spectrum of people, so please be mindful of what you say and who might be reading it--details of personal disputes may be better handled privately. While posters are legally responsible for their statements, the moderators may in their discretion remove or edit posts, though are not legally obligated to do so, regardless of content.

Users have the ability to modify or delete their own messages after posting. Moderators generally will not delete posts, threads or accounts unless they have been alerted and have determined that a post, thread or user has violated the Forums' policies. Moderators do not regularly independently monitor the Forums for such violations.

Profanity, outright vulgarity, blatant personal insults or otherwise inappropriate statements will not be tolerated and will be dealt with at the discretion of the moderators.

Users may provide their positive or negative experiences with or opinions of companies, products, individuals, etc.; however, accounts involving allegations of criminal behavior against named individuals or companies MUST be first-hand accounts and may NOT be made anonymously.

If a situation has been reported upon by a reputable news source or addressed by law enforcement or the legal system it is open for discussion, but if an individual wants to make their own claims of criminal behavior against a named party in the course of that discussion, they too must identify themselves by first and last name and the account must be first-person.

Criminal allegations that do not satisfy these requirements, when brought to our attention, may be removed pending satisfaction of these criteria, and we reserve the right to err on the side of caution when making these determinations.

Credible threats of suicide will be reported to the police along with identifying user information at our disposal, in addition to referring the user to suicide helpline resources such as 1-800-SUICIDE or 1-800-273-TALK.

2. Conversations in horse-related forums should be horse-related.
The forums are a wonderful source of information and support for members of the horse community. While it's understandably tempting to share information or search for input on other topics upon which members might have a similar level of knowledge, members must maintain the focus on horses.

3. Keep conversations productive, on topic and civil.
Discussion and disagreement are inevitable and encouraged; personal insults, diatribes and sniping comments are unproductive and unacceptable. Whether a subject is light-hearted or serious, keep posts focused on the current topic and of general interest to other participants of that thread. Utilize the private message feature or personal email where appropriate to address side topics or personal issues not related to the topic at large.

4. No advertising in the discussion forums.
Posts in the discussion forums directly or indirectly advertising horses, jobs, items or services for sale or wanted will be removed at the discretion of the moderators. Use of the private messaging feature or email addresses obtained through users' profiles for unsolicited advertising is not permitted.

Company representatives may participate in discussions and answer questions about their products or services, or suggest their products on recent threads if they fulfill the criteria of a query. False "testimonials" provided by company affiliates posing as general consumers are not appropriate, and self-promotion of sales, ad campaigns, etc. through the discussion forums is not allowed.

Paid advertising is available on our classifieds site and through the purchase of banner ads. The tightly monitored Giveaways forum permits free listings of genuinely free horses and items available or wanted (on a limited basis). Items offered for trade are not allowed.

Advertising Policy Specifics
When in doubt of whether something you want to post constitutes advertising, please contact a moderator privately in advance for further clarification. Refer to the following points for general guidelines:

Horses -- Only general discussion about the buying, leasing, selling and pricing of horses is permitted. If the post contains, or links to, the type of specific information typically found in a sales or wanted ad, and it's related to a horse for sale, regardless of who's selling it, it doesn't belong in the discussion forums.

Stallions -- Board members may ask for suggestions on breeding stallion recommendations. Stallion owners may reply to such queries by suggesting their own stallions, only if their horse fits the specific criteria of the original poster. Excessive promotion of a stallion by its owner or related parties is not permitted and will be addressed at the discretion of the moderators.

Services -- Members may use the forums to ask for general recommendations of trainers, barns, shippers, farriers, etc., and other members may answer those requests by suggesting themselves or their company, if their services fulfill the specific criteria of the original post. Members may not solicit other members for business if it is not in response to a direct, genuine query.

Products -- While members may ask for general opinions and suggestions on equipment, trailers, trucks, etc., they may not list the specific attributes for which they are in the market, as such posts serve as wanted ads.

Event Announcements -- Members may post one notification of an upcoming event that may be of interest to fellow members, if the original poster does not benefit financially from the event. Such threads may not be "bumped" excessively. Premium members may post their own notices in the Event Announcements forum.

Charities/Rescues -- Announcements for charitable or fundraising events can only be made for 501(c)(3) tax-exempt organizations. Special exceptions may be made, at the moderators' discretion and direction, for board-related events or fundraising activities in extraordinary circumstances.

Occasional posts regarding horses available for adoption through IRS-registered horse rescue or placement programs are permitted in the appropriate forums, but these threads may be limited at the discretion of the moderators. Individuals may not advertise or make announcements for horses in need of rescue, placement or adoption unless the horse is available through a recognized rescue or placement agency or government-run entity or the thread fits the criteria for and is located in the Giveaways forum.

5. Do not post copyrighted photographs unless you have purchased that photo and have permission to do so.

6. Respect other members.
As members are often passionate about their beliefs and intentions can easily be misinterpreted in this type of environment, try to explore or resolve the inevitable disagreements that arise in the course of threads calmly and rationally.

If you see a post that you feel violates the rules of the board, please click the �alert� button (exclamation point inside of a triangle) in the bottom left corner of the post, which will alert ONLY the moderators to the post in question. They will then take whatever action, or no action, as deemed appropriate for the situation at their discretion. Do not air grievances regarding other posters or the moderators in the discussion forums.

Please be advised that adding another user to your �Ignore� list via your User Control Panel can be a useful tactic, which blocks posts and private messages by members whose commentary you'd rather avoid reading.

7. We have the right to reproduce statements made in the forums.
The Chronicle of the Horse may copy, quote, link to or otherwise reproduce posts, or portions of posts, in print or online for advertising or editorial purposes, if attributed to their original authors, and by posting in this forum, you hereby grant to The Chronicle of the Horse a perpetual, non-exclusive license under copyright and other rights, to do so.

8. We reserve the right to enforce and amend the rules.
The moderators may delete, edit, move or close any post or thread at any time, or refrain from doing any of the foregoing, in their discretion, and may suspend or revoke a user's membership privileges at any time to maintain adherence to the rules and the general spirit of the forum. These rules may be amended at any time to address the current needs of the board.

Please see our full Terms of Service and Privacy Policy for more information.

Thanks for being a part of the COTH forums!

(Revised 5/9/18)
See more
See less

Tractor vs Zero Turn

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • back_in_the_saddle
    replied
    We learned that you need a tractor with a FEL, even if you have a small property. We started out buying a zero turn, but after a year, we had to get a compact tractor, too. I do use the zero turn to mow any areas it can handle because it's much faster.

    Leave a comment:


  • ElementFarm
    replied
    we have both, and they each are excellent for different things.

    If you can just get one, I second some earlier posts: get the tractor with FEL. The FEL is used All The Time on my small farm. i pick pastures into if (in between dragging), I use it to load hay, move equipment, and even stood in it to nail shingles on a small outbuilding. The tractor itself can be used for digging posts, mowing rougher land wit ha bush hog, and dragging the ring and fields.

    That being said, we have a zero turn too (got it just last year) and DH prefers to mow the pastures with it over the tractor, because it's so much faster.

    Leave a comment:


  • FitToBeTied
    replied
    We went through this decision a couple of years ago and went with the ZT. Best decision ever. I thought I would use the BushHog for rougher areas but the ZT handles those because it is so nimble. The ZT has cut pasture mowing time in half. Given we also have a 35 HP NH tractor that is used for heavier typical tractor work.

    Leave a comment:


  • Bluey
    replied
    Zero turns are built for lawns.
    They are rough riding on pastures with all kinds of bumps and holes.
    You learn where those are and slow down for them, so you don't get bucked off.

    Leave a comment:


  • Kathy Nebel
    replied
    We have both. Use to cut the pasture with the tractor / bush hog, but when we replaced our 20 year old zero turn with a newer model, began to mow the pasture with it. The deck raises to 6” and it is mows faster then the tractor and doesn’t require going back to get under trees, etc. That said, you will use a tractor and implements to do so much more than mow.

    Leave a comment:


  • whitmers
    replied
    When we first bought our farm property, we purchased a 61" zero turn commercial grade mower, and used it for mowing everything until we got our NH tractor, bush hog and all the other implements a few months later. The mower did a great job on the lawn, barn yard, fence lines, around trees etc. It cut well and was really fast. It also did a great job on our 10+ acres of pasture, BUT I would NOT recommend it for that... our pasture is mostly flat and looked smooth but wasn't. There were bumps, ruts, rough spots etc that you find in a typical hay field. It took much longer to mow with the ZT mower than the tractor & bush hog we later got, and the pounding to the body esp. the kidneys was no fun! Fortunately the mower was good quality and held up to the abuse till we bought the tractor...

    Leave a comment:


  • keatssu
    replied
    We have a small tractor, 60" zero turn and a gator. We mow everything with the zero turn. We use the tractor mainly for dragging the arena. We use the gator for pulling the manure spreader. For mowing, I would definitely go with the zero turn.

    Leave a comment:


  • MoonWitch
    replied
    Originally posted by NotGrandPrixYet View Post
    I have a tractor, but I end up using my zero turn for everything and my husband’s skid loader for the rest. The tractor is just too big. Our zero turn is a professional model, not your average homeowner’s one. I do need to raise the deck on it, though.
    This is a good point. If you do go with the zero turn, get a commercial grade and not the home owner version. Pasture that gets chopped up footing due to horses won't last long on your average fixed deck.

    Leave a comment:


  • NotGrandPrixYet
    replied
    I have a tractor, but I end up using my zero turn for everything and my husband’s skid loader for the rest. The tractor is just too big. Our zero turn is a professional model, not your average homeowner’s one. I do need to raise the deck on it, though.

    Leave a comment:


  • walktrot
    replied
    I know of one person who went over a 6' high retaining wall with a zero turn. Fortunately he was not seriously injured. He apparently misjudged the turn and went just far enough to catch the edge..

    I'm with MoonWitch. I'm on my second next-to-the-cheapest JD lawn tractor and it can grind up more than just the grass. I can also attach a small cart and haul that around rather than depending on the wheelbarrow.

    Leave a comment:


  • MoonWitch
    replied
    We have both; two Ferris and one NH tractor with bush hog. I love the speed of my Ferris and the "cut" that I get but there are times when the bush hog is the only thing that will get the job done.

    If you have a nice flat pasture, the zero turn would be my choice but if you have ruts or wet areas that get chopped up, I go with the tractor that can take more of a beating.

    Leave a comment:


  • Bluey
    replied
    I prefer my zero turn for yard, horse pens and traps, around buildings.
    Is a great machine, fits in every corner, does a great job.

    In our pastures, I use it in some places by the house and barns around the edge against the fences, but the larger areas, it would take forever, is dustier and rougher than a real good sized tractor and hard on the zero turn in those rougher areas of taller thicker stuff to cut.
    In bar-ditches and thick weeds, is best to cut with only half the zero turn and go back for the other half, or it may choke down.

    It does sound like for the flat and smooth grass the OP is going to mow, other than the large size, a zero turn will do a very pretty and finished job.

    Leave a comment:


  • seabreeze
    replied
    For now, I’d go with a zero turn. On my 60” zero turn, it takes me about 2:30 to mow my 5-acre pasture and about an hour to mow the other 2-acre pasture. The smaller paddock and riding ring (about 250’ x 200’) take about 30 minutes, including navigating the jumps and moving ground poles. I go about half speed in the pastures to save wear and tear on the mower. For the 3 acres of yard I mow, it takes about 1:30, including moving vehicles, ditchbank, etc.

    My mower height adjusts to 5” which is the height I like for my pasture.

    Leave a comment:


  • SugarCubes
    replied
    We have 14 acres and have a tractor with 60" finish mower, brush hog, and a 60" zero turn. The zero turn hands down is used the most for mowing. The tractor is too big to get between trees and just takes longer than the zero turn. I rarely use the finish mower, and save the brush hog for the rougher terrain and pasture areas.

    I vote zero turn, for sure! Tractor later, down the road...

    Leave a comment:


  • DinkyDonk
    replied
    Tractors handle abusive owners/drivers better than zero turns, and need less maintenance. Zero turn is not going to pull a manure spreader, and you can't move snow with it!

    Leave a comment:


  • Horsehusband
    replied
    Thanks all - Right now we have a gator as well for farm chores. Ideally I do lean towards the tractor but the cost difference is holding me back a bit. The tractor I'd want with all the implements is more than triple the cost of the zero turn.

    For the time being I'll be mowing a good majority of the land as we have no plans to bring the horses home in the near future.

    Leave a comment:


  • endlessclimb
    replied
    Originally posted by wsmoak View Post
    We have both, and this time of year I am always wishing I could raise the zero-turn deck higher. I want to knock the seed heads off the pasture grass but would like to leave more leaf -- 6-8" ideally but that is not possible with the zero-turn.

    If I could only choose one of them, it would definitely be the tractor.
    Put bigger tires on it? We just did that to a zero turn on the farm.

    Leave a comment:


  • Simkie
    replied
    It comes down to what all you need to do.

    Are you just going to mow? Is that the ONLY thing you'll be doing? A zero turn is going to do that better.

    But do you need to do other farm stuff? A tractor is SO much more useful.

    And a bush hog isn't the only mowing implement for a tractor. You can get a belly or rear finish mower for it.

    wsmoak I have that same conundrum right now with the mower height. I compromise by running the bush hog high, but it's sloppy, because all four tractor tires roll over the grass, laying it down, before it hits the rotary.

    Leave a comment:


  • wsmoak
    replied
    We have both, and this time of year I am always wishing I could raise the zero-turn deck higher. I want to knock the seed heads off the pasture grass but would like to leave more leaf -- 6-8" ideally but that is not possible with the zero-turn.

    If I could only choose one of them, it would definitely be the tractor.

    Leave a comment:


  • Bluey
    replied
    Zero turn is fine if you need a yard finish to your mowing.
    For pasture mowing, a real tractor, even if toy sized, but with bush hog mower, front loader, pallet points, just your basic stuff, that machine will do so, so, so much more for your operation than the zero turn would.

    As above, if you do have much of those 10 acres in yard to mow, then the zero turn will do a neat, smooth, short cut of it that will look like a yard.

    I expect not all 10 acres will be what you have to mow.
    Figure what is lawn, what pasture and that will help you decide which will work best for you.

    Leave a comment:

Working...
X