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    Tips on temp fencing for mobile goat enclosure?

    I'm giving thought to penning my two goats in un-mow-able areas that have lots of poison ivy and junk tree shoots. Looking for feedback from anyone who has actually done this-- what type of fence did you use? At our site, it would be out of range for hard-wired electric, but I have a solar charger and could pair that with a battery. Not sure that would produce a charge 24/7 that's enough to compel them to leave the fence alone. Then again, a few shocks when it's at full strength might be enough to warn them off the rest of the time. Or maybe some roundpen panels with field wire to keep them from slipping through?

    WWYD, and WWYD differently? Thanks!
    Last edited by HungarianHippo; Jun. 10, 2020, 11:14 PM. Reason: typo

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    I have been told think if water can get through a fence, a goat will get through a fence!
    It is better to ride 5 minutes a day than it is to ride 35 minutes on a Sunday.

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      #3
      Originally posted by SuzieQNutter View Post
      I have been told think if water can get through a fence, a goat will get through a fence!
      or under

      maybe tie them together then they would wrap the rope around a tree .... neighbor's goats have nearly driven me to madness.... they kept getting into my pasture no one was doing anything, animal control's response they are so cute, I finally just turned them loose .... I could get them to follow me to the front gate, then turn them loose on the neighborhood

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        #4
        Originally posted by SuzieQNutter View Post
        I have been told think if water can get through a fence, a goat will get through a fence!
        I have goats, understand the permanent fencing needs. However there are many "rent-a-goat" operations out there that use temporary fencing. Looking for input from folks who have actually done this. Thanks!

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          #5
          The electric netting type fencing works if properly set up. A visiting "Extension Expert" gave a talk with photos, of using browsing goats to clear a wooded area at a horse farm. Owner had requested help in brush clearing without pesticide use, for this large area. Too big for one person to control with just trimming. Have to say the ending results were amazing!

          The speaker emphasized that the goats used were not pets, had been raised with a herd that browsed on "rough" ground with bushes, weedy plants as feed. They had to hunt to find such goats, since most herds are closely managed for meat or dairy production. Then they had shipped the goats to Michigan to use them in this study in land clearing.. Browsing goats literally ate everything they found chewable, did not expect grain or soft hay as food. They stood on hind legs to browse low branches, vines, bushes.

          My gardening friend also uses a couple small goats to browse her areas of poison ivy, weeds, on the property, but it is not heavily overgrown lIke the woods owner had. Her goats do a good job for her needs. She also uses the electric net fencing. Has been very happy with it containing her goats and keeping out their predators in her neighborhood.

          The browsing goats were contained inside the netting fence, which also protected goats from predators of coyotes and wandering dogs out in the woods. Netting fences were moved regularly to allow browsing of new areas, in cleaning the wooded area. Photos showed naked ground, only tree trunks visible when goats were moved to another location. No electric plugs out in the woods for the net fences! So I expect they used solar power and had battery backup, since Michigan is not known for being a reliable solar producer. Too cloudy a lot of the time. Fences were kept hot ALL the time for safety of the goats. Goats were checked twice a day, letting them out in bigger electric net fenced pasture. Then putting them in again, in a much smaller space at night, so they had a double net, electric fence for protection.

          The study was rated a success, with goats cleaning the woods of underbrush over time. Grazed locations stayed clear for a long time, got regrazed as needed to stay cleared. Owner was happy with the goat system, despite the extra care needed to keep them safe, contained as they got worked browsing thru her woods. They are very happy with cleaned wooded area. Have not lost any goats to predation using the electric net fences.

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            #6
            Several homesteaders I follow on youtube use Premier 1 fencing for rotational grazing. It seems to work as long as it stays hot, they have enough to eat and you don’t have especially jerky goats.

            I’ve heard a couple issues about not having the correct posts for your soil and the longer lengths (100+ ft) being a pain to move if you do it often but everyone seems to agree that Premier 1 has great customer service and will help you choose the right product.

            https://youtu.be/goWLDvXoeOM

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              #7
              Awesome, thanks for the info!
              our two girls are pretty hardy-- I don't feed hay /grain once things green up. They forage their pen and low tree branches. Anyway these areas I'm thinking about are close to the barnyard, So I'll be able to see howthey're doing.
              I do need to figure out some form of shelter for them. They really hate getting wet. I've got some extra metal siding panels, I'm thinking I could make an arch out of that and attach to a pallet.

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                #8
                Another vote for the Premier net fencing.

                And those calf huts could make a great, easily movable, shelter? If you're in dairy country, they pop up on craigslist with some frequency.

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                  #9
                  I used Premier1's sheep-and-goat net fencing when I had a bunch of turkeys, and I currently use their Horse Quick Fence to subdivide grazing.

                  My advice is to set a solid end post (can be a heavy t-post) and use mason's string to get the fence *straight* and hand tight. Then set the other end post. As mentioned above, the 100' rolls are awkward but possible for one person to set up -- two people are much better. If you're doing it alone I would stick to 50' lengths.

                  Not sure how much you're willing to spend on shelter but ShelterLogic has a portable cover that fits on corral panels.
                  --
                  Wendy
                  ... with Patrick and Henry

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                    #10
                    I have premier1 netting for the sheep with their solar chargers and I am a fan. I buy a lot of supplemental FiberTuff posts as well. I can do the 150' rolls myself, and I prefer the double-stake bottoms as easier to push in. However, I am not usually rolling up my fence and taking it to a whole new place, just shifting it across the field.

                    If you are allergic to a thing, it is best not to put that thing in your mouth, particularly if the thing is cats. - Lemony Snicket

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                      #11
                      My herd of Boer goats (up to 22 of them!) has been contained by Premier 1 netting for 6 years now. Only escapes have been when the human kids forget to turn the fence back on... Installing and moving the netting can definitely be a PITA in overgrown areas, as the netting catches on EVERYTHING. Much easier to have 2+ people so you can keep the netting "vertical" during install and not have it catch on brush.

                      We use a T-post (or tree!) at ends and corners if possible. We used good 'ole blue baling twine (not sisal, it rots far too fast!) to secure our fiberglass netting posts to the T-posts. MAKE SURE you leave at least a 1" gap between the T-post and the netting post, so that the fence doesn't short out on the T-post.

                      We used a Parmak 6v solar charger for years, the goats respected it, but the RABBITS did not! The rabbits chewed holes all over in the bottom strand to make bigger gaps to scoot thru. The gaps were super easy to repair with the kit that is included with the fencing, and we haven't had any more holes since switching to a Parmak 50-mile plugin charger. That fence will knock you to the ground now.

                      Make sure you also follow Premier 1's directions for rolling and unrolling the fencing. You DO NOT want to roll it up end-to-end like a carpet or rug!

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                        #12
                        There's a Pinterest page just for you - https://www.pinterest.com/pin/258745941063935903/
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                          #13
                          The professional goat renters use netting AND a Great Pryness to contain and protect the goats.
                          The solution to all animal problems is to get another animal

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                            Was it a curious Great Pryness ?
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                              #15
                              A family down the road put up some 4x4 wire fencing near the road. Signs posted say goats are at work. They are making progress. The parts of them I've been able to see look pretty cute.

                              "With hardly any other living being can a human connect as closely over so many years as a rider can with her horse." Isabell Werth, Four Legs Move My Soul. 2019

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                                #16
                                Half dozen pig panels banded together, moved every day.

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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by walktrot View Post
                                  A family down the road put up some 4x4 wire fencing near the road. Signs posted say goats are at work. They are making progress. The parts of them I've been able to see look pretty cute.
                                  I gotta hand it to that family. Those goats are working away at the mess and hit bare dirt in one area a couple of days ago. It has finally cleared out enough that you can see them working hard to munch all that brush and weeds and the lower branches on some saplings. They are very cute. Small. 3 of them, black and white or tan and white. They have made so much progress that people are slowing down and pulling over to look at them. A couple of them to took a break to watch the humans.

                                  I wonder if they belong to the homeowner, are borrowed, or rented. Wherever they came from they are dedicated to their work. It's a heck of a lot easier than tackling it yourself with the loppers, a weed whacker, and pruning shears.
                                  "With hardly any other living being can a human connect as closely over so many years as a rider can with her horse." Isabell Werth, Four Legs Move My Soul. 2019

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