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  • Getting in and out of the pasture

    I've got a deal with my neighbors to lease their pasture, fencing is in process but taking longer due to how rainy it has been - but happily my 2 geldings will be moving home by end of March! (been a year long process to get the deal in place and fencing installed).

    So the original spot the fence guy and I talked through to have access to drive into the pasture with truck & trailer allowed me to be off the road before having to open a gate. He let me know he wanted to show me a better option for line-of sight to get in and out, but we haven't had a chance to meet as he has been there sporadically with due to weather. Yesterday I came home to find the new location with a gate already installed...and Unfortunately it means I will have to stop on our road, get out to open the gate and pull in and vice versa...While I have a horse that will be left behind in the pasture (retired/buddy horse) running loose. I worry because #1) we have some idiots on our road (not a main road thankfully) and #2 managing the buddy horse who will be excited to see us return and being one who does all this in/out alone most of the time, can't count on hubby to be around to help.
    Any tips??

    This is all being paid for by the owners of the land, not me, so I really don't have any leverage on the gate going in a place we didn't discuss first -- but I am meeting with him tomorrow and will voice my concerns over it, tho probably too late.
    RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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    I'd add my own u-shaped set back entry way (deep enough that you can pull into to get off the road) with t-posts and no-climb fencing. Then, theoretically, you wouldn't need his gate to be closed if you plan on frequent entry.

    That way, if you find the loose horse tends to be problematic, you can also have the option to pull into the set back drive and close the road gate behind you before opening the new pasture gate.

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      #3
      Interesting idea - It will have an electric top wire so I guess I can always tap into that to do a like temp fenced off area.
      RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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      • #4
        You can offer to pay for a second gate where you initially wanted it.
        Then you will have two choices, use whichever works best at any time.
        You can never have enough gates.

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          #5
          Originally posted by paintedtrails View Post
          Interesting idea - It will have an electric top wire so I guess I can always tap into that to do a like temp fenced off area.
          That in itself has been a bit of mess with their property manager!
          I had trees cleared in our bordering land (to the tune of $1000) to allow for a 12' gate from our driveway into the pasture (as agreed to with the owner) before the fence was to be originally installed last Sept. The first fencer flaked, and then the Property Manager said that wasn't allowed (so now I get just a man-gate, nothing drive-able thru and our lease states I will replace the gate with solid fence upon termination); they agreed to provide road access, which can only be done by clearing trees off their land. That is true for either location, and I honestly can't afford that extra $3k of clearing & gravel it would run to offer to do that.
          RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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          • #6
            Could you lead the horse through the walk-thru gate and load in your drive?

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              Originally posted by avjudge View Post
              Could you lead the horse through the walk-thru gate and load in your drive?
              Definitely not with a car in the driveway - ours is a long 1 car width driveway with a parking area up top that when it is dry I *might* be able to maneuver my trailer in/out of by utilizing the grass area.. I was thinking about playing with this one day with my husband so could help watch the trailer and truck around the obstacles (and the other car way out of the way)

              When it is dry enough I do an option of parking the trailer up front or at least loading from the front of our property - but the problem is when wet like now - everything has standing water - I can't tear up the yard getting in and out so I want to keep it in the actual pasture.
              RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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              • #8
                Adding your own inset gate sounds like a good idea to me.

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                  #9
                  thankfully the fence installer is going to work with the owners to make the set-back for the gate so I can pull all the way up to it before opening and be off the road. He is also concerned for my safety and is pushing them to let him move it in another 20'. The issue is apparently cost for the gravel, not the actual fence change. ARGH! :P
                  RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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                  • #10
                    You should pay for the gravel if you plan to be there a while.

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                      #11
                      I'm already covering adding a top line of electric to the fencing because they opted for the cheaper option that places posts 16' apart and it is a knotted wire stretched fence and they want to keep the horses off the top of it.

                      I had offered and originally planned on an entrance from my own driveway which we would have paid the gravel for. They said they would get me the road-side entry instead...so, IMO this on them. I don't care if there is gravel or not to drive on, but VDOT will.
                      RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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                      • #12
                        You are the only one who benefits, and you alone know if what you are gaining is worth it or not. I don't know VDOT from my elbow; do they really care if a 'driveway' is grass/dirt v. gravel?

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                        • #13
                          I absolutely get that this is not an ideal situation, but a really low-budget option might be to ask the fencer to install a hitching post inside the pasture, kind of close to the gate but with plenty of room for you to be pulling in and getting done what you need to. Or even a single extra tall extra heavy duty pole where you could install a tie-ring. That way if push came to shove and your second horse is being too crazy, you've got at least some way of securing him while you go in and out.

                          As I've been on my farm the last two and a half years, I keep thinking of the phrase "want, settle, get." Meaning I often go with the absolute bare minimum of what I need, and plan for that "settle" and "want" improvement later on. I'd hate to see you shelling out a lot more money at this point when you're not even sure how well this is going to work out.
                          I've never understood the insult calling a person a "fruitbat." It's not much of an insult to the person. More often than not, the persons behavior proves it to be more of an insult to the fruitbat!

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                            Originally posted by TMares View Post
                            . I don't know VDOT from my elbow; do they really care if a 'driveway' is grass/dirt v. gravel?
                            Virginia Dept of Transportation. Apparently they will care if you add an entrance to/from a road that they maintain that doesn't have gravel...but for me I don't care. I camp and have no problem driving on grass. If they don't put in gravel now, they may be forced to in the future by VDOT and that is what the fencer is trying to convey to them.

                            ladymcts Exactly! I don't know how long this lease will last (hopefully till we are ready to move in many years) and not only am I funding the hot wire, but I'm putting in a shelter that I'm basically forfeiting when we leave - so just trying avoid spending more than I have to on something that isn't "mine". As far as the hitching post - yes, I thought of that too or tying him in the shelter which won't be far from the gate. Still requires leaving the truck and trailer on the road while I go do it, which is what we are trying to avoid by moving the gate further into the pasture to at least giving me the room to pull in and stop and handle the 2nd horse.
                            RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ladymcts View Post
                              I absolutely get that this is not an ideal situation, but a really low-budget option might be to ask the fencer to install a hitching post inside the pasture, kind of close to the gate but with plenty of room for you to be pulling in and getting done what you need to. Or even a single extra tall extra heavy duty pole where you could install a tie-ring. That way if push came to shove and your second horse is being too crazy, you've got at least some way of securing him while you go in and out.

                              As I've been on my farm the last two and a half years, I keep thinking of the phrase "want, settle, get." Meaning I often go with the absolute bare minimum of what I need, and plan for that "settle" and "want" improvement later on. I'd hate to see you shelling out a lot more money at this point when you're not even sure how well this is going to work out.
                              Agreed. For me, my road is quiet enough that I could park my big 3H GN with LQ on the road, go in and catch a horse and stick it in a panel pen or tie it, then open the gate, pull in, and close the gate. But we don't know how busy this road is or not. For me, I would be fine with a road frontage gate close to the road, NBD, but only the OP knows if this is manageable or not.
                              paintedtrails I know that the VADOT is, lol, I just was surprised they care about some entrance to a field. I'm in AL though, where you're lucky if they care about anything.

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                                Granted I'm not a main road, but is a 35 mph road with windy curves.... the field entrance is on the most straight part with good visibility from either direction, but we do have some notorious jerks/idiots that drive way too fast on it sadly. Those few are my worry!
                                RIP Traveler & Tesla <3

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