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  • Heated Muck Tub in Stall

    Does anyone use muck tubs (heated or not) in the stall for water?
    Stall is 12x12 considering making it 12x22 as horse does better with bigger stall (mess wise and happiness wise). I am concerned with dumping it to clean if she were to poop in it or it gets dirty. I wouldn’t top it off but dump it when it get to 1/3-1/4 full. I am moving the horse home and am thinking it will be a good way to do water (especially heated water) without dumping and filling 2 times a day as I also have a desk job that is almost an hour away (so long days as is).
    General plan is to have her stall connected to a small paddock (like a run but much larger) with hay and water inside and outside so I have the ability to lock her out or in depending on weather.

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    Yup. I use them all through winter. If I've had a horse poop in one, I don't recall. I scrub them weekly, fill daily. No problems, no complaints. If you do have to dump a full one, just bail out with a regular bucket. They're only 16 gallons, so it's not like it's difficult to empty a full one. My horses generally each drink 1/2 to 2/3 tub overnight. They're in from dark to ~9am.

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    • #3
      I had a horse in on layup that would only drink out of a muck tub. Kept it in the corner and full so he couldnt knock it over. Dumped and scrubbed it every other day. Its more prone to getting shavings in it being closer to the ground.

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      • #4
        I have a muck tub for spring summer fall, and a heated tub with the element built in for winter. the electrical outlet is close to the stall. Her hay drops in one front corner, tub is in the other corner, she mostly poops outside in the run-out bu when she does poop inside it is at the back of the stall, away from her head which is in the hay.

        We have drains outside our stalls, so dumping a big tub is not so difficult. We all mostly dump and scrub our water tubs and buckets daily. if it's cooler weather we may not fill the tub to the brim, depending on how much water the horse is drinking.

        My horse also has a flat back bucket hanging in her hay drop corner, just to encourage her to drink more.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kaya842 View Post
          Does anyone use muck tubs (heated or not) in the stall for water?
          Stall is 12x12 considering making it 12x22 as horse does better with bigger stall (mess wise and happiness wise). I am concerned with dumping it to clean if she were to poop in it or it gets dirty. I wouldn’t top it off but dump it when it get to 1/3-1/4 full. I am moving the horse home and am thinking it will be a good way to do water (especially heated water) without dumping and filling 2 times a day as I also have a desk job that is almost an hour away (so long days as is).
          General plan is to have her stall connected to a small paddock (like a run but much larger) with hay and water inside and outside so I have the ability to lock her out or in depending on weather.
          Will your water freeze in the winter? That might have a bearing on recommendations.

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            #6
            Thanks for the feedback so far! The hay in one corner water in the other is what I was thinking too.
            Yes water will freeze but I have seen a barn use a heated muck tub outside (for a mini) through the winter without issue.

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            • #7
              Yes, my repeat colic horse preferred the water from soaked hay, so we put a muck bucket in the front corner of his stall. He would eat his soaked hay, then drink the flavored water.

              He never dumped it, nor pooped in it, as far as I remember.

              Didn’t know they make heated muck buckets! That’s convenient for winter water.
              "When I look back on my life, the times I have been stingy or unappreciative haunt me. I don't regret one instance of generosity." --PeteyPie

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              • #8
                I use heated muck tubs in cold months, inside and out. Unheated muck tubs in the warm months.

                hay is in the opposite front corner.

                Thankfully my geldings have designated areas of their stalls (12 X 14) where they take care of business, so the water isn't in jeopardy of getting mucked up

                In the winter, all the tubs get dumped and Cloroxed once a week. Thru the week (all year long) , I use a fish tank net to scoop any drippings the horses might leave when they get a drink -- that really helps keep the water clean

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                • #9
                  I use heated muck tubs in cold months, inside and out. Unheated muck tubs in the warm months.

                  hay is in the opposite front corner.

                  Thankfully my geldings have designated areas of their stalls (12 X 14) where they take care of business, so the water isn't in jeopardy of getting mucked up

                  In the winter, all the tubs get dumped and Cloroxed once a week. Thru the week (all year long) , I use a fish tank net to scoop any drippings the horses might leave when they get a drink -- that really helps keep the water clean

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                  • #10
                    I use heated muck tubs in cold months, inside and out. Unheated muck tubs in the warm months.

                    hay is in the opposite front corner.

                    Thankfully my geldings have designated areas of their stalls (12 X 14) where they take care of business, so the water isn't in jeopardy of getting mucked up

                    In the winter, all the tubs get dumped and Cloroxed once a week. Thru the week (all year long) , I use a fish tank net to scoop any drippings the horses might leave when they get a drink -- that really helps keep the water clean

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                    • #11
                      As long as you have electric run to the barn, why not just use a standard heated 5gal flatback bucket?
                      Those can be hung rather than set at floor level.
                      So no danger of tipping.
                      Use 2 in the stall if you're worried one won't be enough.

                      I use these (& have for the last 15 years) with cords run through the feed opening on the stall grilles. Horses eat grain from pans on the floor.
                      First 6' of cords are encased in coiled metal (like a spring), but no one has tried chewing on them.
                      GFI outlets are centered between stalls. I stapled - with wideset heavy duty staples - cords to run along stall walls outside to outlets.
                      Buckets are left in stalls year-round, unplugged when night temps stay in the 40s.

                      I dump, scrub & refill infrequently.
                      Maybe twice a month.
                      And do so by dumping the stall buckets into a spare bucket, so no need to remove them from the stalls.
                      Horses do not require pristine crystal clear water.
                      In fact, when I dump, scrub & refill either stall buckets or the 50gal barrel outside the barn, they often drink from the puddle of dumped water.
                      The barrel is kept liquid in Winter with a sinking de-icer.
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                      • #12
                        would never work with my horses as they would pick the thing up to see what was hidden under it

                        Horses do not require pristine crystal clear water.
                        I will have signage made of that and hang it in their stalls
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by clanter View Post
                          would never work with my horses as they would pick the thing up to see what was hidden under it



                          I will have signage made of that and hang it in their stalls

                          Yes, my sinking de-icer has a Rube Goldbergian arrangement of PVC pipe, duct tape, cinderblock & rocks to prevent my Science Majors from disassembling it.
                          Nothing like arriving home on a frigid Winter evening to find the de-icer sputtering on the ground & an inch of ice in the barrel.

                          And how many times have I stood back proudly after scrubbing, bleaching & refilling buckets & barrel, only to watch all 3 ignore the sparkling, pristine, crystal clear refills & sip from the scummy water/bleach dumped from the barrel
                          Answer: Many
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                            As long as you have electric run to the barn, why not just use a standard heated 5gal flatback bucket?
                            Those can be hung rather than set at floor level.
                            So no danger of tipping.
                            Use 2 in the stall if you're worried one won't be enough.

                            ....
                            This is what I do. One bucket is plugged in/heated, the other is not. I have never had a horse empty both overnight. Most often they will drink from the unheated until it forms a thick ice skim, then drink from the heated the rest of the night. Neither gets drunk dry. The unheated only freezes on the coldest of nights (and I am in the upper midwest, so yes cold winter).

                            To get rid of the ice in the one bucket, I just pour the remaining warm water into the bucket. While I clean the stall, it melts enough for me to pour out any ice chunk there might be.

                            I have a hole drilled in the front stall wall (just big enough to fit plug thru) just below where the cord exits the bucket bottom. Cord is pulled thru to GFI plug located between 2 stalls. There is minimal exposure of the cord where a horse could get it and that is the part of cord that has the metal coil protection.

                            I think my curious boys would find a sinking deicer an intriguing toy. Not something I want to find out about.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 2DogsFarm View Post
                              As long as you have electric run to the barn, why not just use a standard heated 5gal flatback bucket?
                              Those can be hung rather than set at floor level.
                              So no danger of tipping.
                              Use 2 in the stall if you're worried one won't be enough.
                              I dont use the heated buckets because:

                              Two buckets are often not enough for my horses overnight and they would be dry or close to it

                              I don't have enough outlets to plug two things in per stall without using extension cords or splitters

                              It's easier for me to dump a tub than unthread cords and dump eight buckets

                              Filling four tubs takes less attention than filling eight buckets, so my barn routine is more streamlined


                              Heated tubs provide more water for my horses, don't need any electric stuff and are easier for me to deal with.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Simkie View Post

                                I dont use the heated buckets because:

                                Two buckets are often not enough for my horses overnight and they would be dry or close to it
                                You must have some heavy drinkers!
                                My 3 seldom drain the buckets, usually half-empty at best.
                                They aren't stalled, so have access to the barrel too. But that is never more than around 1/4 down.

                                I don't have enough outlets to plug two things in per stall without using extension cords or splitters
                                I do use outdoor-rated extension cords, one GFI outlet for both big stalls, another for the mini's.
                                It's easier for me to dump a tub than unthread cords and dump eight buckets

                                Filling four tubs takes less attention than filling eight buckets, so my barn routine is more streamlined
                                Point conceded, dumping 3 buckets, even w/o unplugging,is my lengthiest chore.
                                Splashing myself in the dead of Winter while taking filled spare bucket out to dump, also not fun.

                                Whatever works for each, right?



                                Heated tubs provide more water for my horses, don't need any electric stuff and are easier for me to deal with.
                                Curious: how is "no electric" done for heated tubs?
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                                • #17
                                  2DogsFarm I have outlets at each stall. If I use the tubs, I don't need extension cords or power strips or outlet splitters. I have to use those things if I use the buckets. Tubs are quite a bit more convenient, but the additional safety factor of having them plug into the outlet directly is very attractive.

                                  Only one heated bucket in each stall doesn't come anywhere near to being sufficient for me. Plus the huge hassle of buckets.

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                                  • #18
                                    The concept is fine...but a sturdy, blue plastic poly tub (55 gallon) cut in half is sturdier and wayyyy cheaper to use. The lining of a barrel is smoother than a muck bucket and easier to clean...and you'd have two to swap out if you cut it in half...just a thought. Blue barrels run around $10 each...muck buckets I'm seeing are close to $50 these days!!
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                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by crosscreeksh View Post
                                      The concept is fine...but a sturdy, blue plastic poly tub (55 gallon) cut in half is sturdier and wayyyy cheaper to use. The lining of a barrel is smoother than a muck bucket and easier to clean...and you'd have two to swap out if you cut it in half...just a thought. Blue barrels run around $10 each...muck buckets I'm seeing are close to $50 these days!!
                                      Heated muck tubs are, what? Fifty ish on sale from state line or horse.com? I think that's about what I paid last time.

                                      Blue food grade drums are more than $10 around here, but let's go with ten. What are you going to pay for the heater for those? And they're not built in, so greater chance horses are going to mess around. No handles, so a little harder to maneuver and dump.

                                      I dunno about sturdier? Haven't had to replace any tubs, although do have an extra in the loft just in case.

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                                      • #20
                                        They were really nice but the heater element only lasted a few seasons. One horse was a pig and did manure in it, the other just always had hay dribbled in there. Once the heater dies they are still useable for warm weather water buckets or whatever else you want.
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