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Please Critique My Idea of Boarding 1 Horse on My Farm

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  • #21
    Given your limitations and requirements I would not take in a boarder. It doesn't sound like your needs and a boarder's needs would match.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by MsM View Post
      Given your limitations and requirements I would not take in a boarder. It doesn't sound like your needs and a boarder's needs would match.
      This is true. Places that charge 450/month in this area have big arenas (some covered), big paddocks or pastures, hot/cold wash rack, feed premium feed/hay included, and are full care with big nice stalls. That's this area though, where boarding is pretty easy to find so the barns have to stay competitively priced.

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      • #23
        We still, I don't think, know where OP lives so her price might be spot on (or not, I may have missed it).

        Just two thoughts and I'll go.

        First, please don't get a donkey as a companion. I know you already said you won't, but I just need to poke my long nose in here about it. Sometimes, sadly more often than not, donkeys and horses do not get along well. Some horses, for whatever reason, take a strong dislike to donkeys and will run them. Donkeys like other donkeys. Also, donkeys are NOT cheaper to keep. They still need their feet and teeth done, they still need to see a vet, my boys get their sheaths done annually.... And they often need more maintenance in regards to fencing and limiting food.

        As for references, a word to the wise: require the last TWO boarding facilities, vets, etc for references. I had the current BO of someone who was applying to board with me lie to me over the phone about what a great horse Dobbin was, etc etc, super nice to have around. For unrelated reasons, I passed, and later was contacted by that very same BO telling me what a bullet I dodged, the horse couldn't be kept inside any kind of fencing. I was gobsmacked. She told me she lied because she was desperate to get rid of her and was bummed I said no.
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        • #24
          If what you're looking for is extra income with not too much risk, frankly, I would just go get a part-time job. If your mom (thank you for helping her, BTW; that is wonderful of you) is mostly independent, maybe she would be okay if you took on alittle work off of the farm.

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          • #25
            I agree with SharonA. Really, just about any other idea would be better than boarding 1 horse to make a little extra cash. Why not get a part time job doing something that you don't mind? You might get lucky and get the perfect person/horse, but even then it would not be a money maker once your time, effort, supplies, insurance, risk, annoyance were all factored in. IRL, smaller BOs are at a VERY high risk to get taken advantage of by unexpectedly crazy/difficult/reluctant to pay clients. It can potentially be a huge financial risk--what would you do if you had an elderly or sick horse abandoned with you? This kind of stuff happens all the time.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Redemption3 View Post
              Three years ago I had a life changing event- needing to help my elderly mother. I had to move, give up some things and now stay on my small 12 acre farm most of the time but she is still independent. My farm is paid for. I've downsized my goats to focus my humble income on my 20 yr. old gelding. In the past Ive had two horses resident together but two were not affordable (in addition to dairy goats) and neither were safe/sound to ride. I say that because I know two horses do fine here.

              So I've been thinking to offer full board for one mare so my Ol Man can have a companion and I can get a little extra income. I can divide his barn from 1 12 x 24 to 2 12 x 12 stalls. His paddock is 1/4 acre sacrificed most of the year and 1/4 acre wooded where it is cool and breezy.

              I live off of a recreational trail and within 10 miles of state park trails so the area is a good horsey area. Also have a horse trailer and would offer to haul the mare to trails once a week if needed. Can also offer trailer parking and tack storage.

              I don't have any special amenities. The full board would be without arena, without wash rack, without any training or lessons which I'm not qualified to offer, though I could find a reputable trainer to come out here if that were the case. Obviously they would pay for training. My area is primarily Western trail riding, btw.

              My thoughts are to include a coastal bermuda roll of hay every three weeks (which is about the time it takes one horse to go through), offer fly mask, fly spray, blanketing etc. all included in the full board price. Additional feed would be owner's responsibility as would be farrier and vet, though I would be here to handle mare. And I could do the feed runs for her within reason.

              Price would be around $450/ month.

              Naturally I'm thinking of a perfectly behaved, healthy mare but I would require prior references, vet and farrier reference, etc. to weed out difficult situations . One thing: I don't know how this would affect my insurance. They didn't bat an eye when I had two at the time they visited for the initial application. Horses weren't even mentioned by them.

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              Originally posted by Redemption3 View Post
              I would be offering it at $450. If that isn't possible I would rethink it but I'm basically available 24/7 at that price. There are pasture boards around me for $250.
              You mention pasture board in your area is $250. What is board in your area for the type of arrangement you describe above? If $450 is the going rate, your plan might be doable after considering all the caveats posted above.

              I wouldn't offer to haul the boarder as part of the "included" board price. But I would offer it at an additional modest/competitive rate. You don't want to include something in board, only to find you must deny the boarder said amenity because she wants to trail ride on the same days you work, for example. If including grain in the cost of board is the norm for your area consider doing the same and just make sure your board rate is set at a level that accommodates grain/feed.

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                #27
                Originally posted by OneTwoMany View Post


                You mention pasture board in your area is $250. What is board in your area for the type of arrangement you describe above? If $450 is the going rate, your plan might be doable after considering all the caveats posted above.

                I wouldn't offer to haul the boarder as part of the "included" board price. But I would offer it at an additional modest/competitive rate. You don't want to include something in board, only to find you must deny the boarder said amenity because she wants to trail ride on the same days you work, for example. If including grain in the cost of board is the norm for your area consider doing the same and just make sure your board rate is set at a level that accommodates grain/feed.
                Thank you. Grain is not always included in boarding prices here. Prices are very variable. Pasture board here has no shelter or hay and is all grass, all the time with nothing additional. Hay is extra cost in the winter months. I've only boarded with training which was $600/ month included alfalfa pellets and a coastal hay roll in the field. The turnout that was sparse grass. The arena was corral panels (which incidentally I could do here).

                Elite boarding begins at $550. That is a dressage/eventing stable with high dollar horses living a cushy life. Full amenities. They get turned out, grain and hay in the stall. That is the boarding price only.

                Around $375 pasture board with hay in the field and maybe grain (which could be 10% sweet feed). No special services.

                I think $450 is reasonable, especially for a retired horse that needs care, in the sense that what I don't offer is balanced by what I do offer. I'm almost always here unless I'm out on errands which is about once or twice every couple of weeks. I'm outside observing and hanging out with my Ol Man throughout the day. That's me. I like to do that and I would do that with a boarded horse as well.

                Currently I'm thinking to include grain and maybe buy the corral panels to make an round pen (you got me thinking). I'd have to detail the grain type and amount- or customize the rate if owner describes the grain type and amount, to make the rate workable for me. Trailer parking included and tack storage also. It seems quite do-able for my area.

                All of this would be written down and passed by a lawyer. I know it is a risk but everything carries a risk. Relatively speaking the risk is not a great one. Still many months to think about and consider.
                Last edited by Redemption3; Aug. 14, 2019, 11:47 AM.
                Caring for Clifford, my big red dog and assorted monkeys, I mean goats. Protected by a few loyal Anatolian Shepherd Dogs and Kangals.

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                • #28
                  There seems to be a vast jump in services in your area if $550 gets you top of the line care and $375 gets you pasture board with hay. If you are going to charge me $450 for what you've described initially, I'm coming up with another $100 in my budget to board at the elite barn.

                  Agree with the others, you're probably better off just looking for a part time job instead of taking on a boarder.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Lah0808 View Post

                    Agree with the others, you're probably better off just looking for a part time job instead of taking on a boarder.
                    I can't be away like that. I'm a caregiver for my mother. If it were so simple, I would have chosen that route already.
                    Caring for Clifford, my big red dog and assorted monkeys, I mean goats. Protected by a few loyal Anatolian Shepherd Dogs and Kangals.

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                    • #30
                      What makes your 1/4 dry lot with a run in stall worth $200 more than the $250 pasture board? Most people I know would prefer to have more pasture. Also, is it fair to cut your geldings very limited space in half?

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                      • #31
                        Originally posted by GraceLikeRain View Post
                        What makes your 1/4 dry lot with a run in stall worth $200 more than the $250 pasture board? Most people I know would prefer to have more pasture. Also, is it fair to cut your geldings very limited space in half?
                        I can’t even imagine keeping one horse on1/4 acre never mind two horses. I have 2 horses on just under 4 fences acres and I think that is really pushing the limits!
                        Boarders are a butt pain, trust me I know...I am one!!!

                        I pay $200/month/horse. I do provide my own bay and grain. The barn owner feeds most every morning and I go most. evenings to feed and ride in a grass ring.

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                        • #32
                          What about dog boarding? Dog boarding requires less in the way of infrastructure, pays better, is more limited in terms of commitment (i.e. you could refuse to take boarders during a busy time), and abandonment rates are much lower. Since you are around, you could offer personalized service. Also, dog boarding clients usually want someone to take care of their pets while they are on vacation, so your privacy would be largely maintained.

                          You say you don't want a donkey or anything else that eats and imply that finances are tight, so I suspect that the risk of having a no pay boarder or a horse abandoned with you is not a risk you want to take. The horse boarding market is such that people who "fail out" of conventional boarding operations (fail to pay, personality issues, too crazy, problem horse) are always on the hunt for smaller backyard places where they can take advantage. Speaking from experience, there are a LOT of people out there with payment issues and it can be extremely surprising who they are.

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                          • #33
                            I agree that $450 is high for what you're offering. I would expect a set-up like yours to be more like $300-350. I read that she has a dry lot that is 1/4 acre open and 1/4 acre wooded, so 1/2 acre total. Still not a lot of space. Personally I have no problem with my horses not having grass if they have hay available 24/7, but most people want some grass.

                            If you're looking for some extra income, you might consider growing bamboo or something instead.
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                              #34
                              Thank you for all of the replies and suggestions. You've given me a lot to consider. I would like to say that I have seen horses boarded in stalls for 12 - 20 hours a day in many places with full amenities so a 1/2 acre paddock with stall open 24/7 would be a luxury for the horse, maybe not the owner. I'm thinking of the horse and the attention she/he would receive but yes, it is only 1/2 acre and very little grass. That said, mainly I'm thinking to leave this area and my mother will have to agree or move with my brother. Moving here was a mistake. I gave up too much and am not comfortable.

                              I have also rethought something that eats and have applied to rescue a sound , sane mare to be a companion for my Old Man and allow me an outlet to get away and ride while the pieces fall into place. During the adoption process I was offered several very fine, highly trained retired horses for free alongside kill pen rescues with adoption fees.There is an abundance of retired horses needing a good home or a good retirement option that is lower cost. If I could find a place more suitable for retirement boarding further north, I would love to move in that direction. Hope to be sold and moved back north somewhere in the next year.
                              Caring for Clifford, my big red dog and assorted monkeys, I mean goats. Protected by a few loyal Anatolian Shepherd Dogs and Kangals.

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                              • #35
                                All the best to you and your mom. You’re a good daughter. Being a Care Giver is very difficult.

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