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Anyone Been Bitten by Raccoon?

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  • Anyone Been Bitten by Raccoon?

    I trapped a raccoon who had been eating my cats' food for a couple of weeks. Transported to an area that is wooded, no houses anywhere. Was trying to position the trap to release and she nipped my finger. So she was turned over to the Animal Control/Health Dept and will be tested for rabies. I will be getting a tetanus shot this afternoon. She just nipped the top of my middle finger but the skin around it came away and it's really sore. I've washed and peroxided it, put some antibacterial gel on it and wrapped. Any other recommendations? Should have results back Monday. I hated it, she looked young and like she is pregnant. Sure is sore where she got me!

  • #2
    I would talk to your doctor about getting the rabies shot just in case. I was bitten years ago - back then it was shots in the stomach - I think it is just one shot now.

    Keep an eye on it - you may also want to get antibiotics. if it gets red go to the doctor asap. You can get a very bad infection.


    • #3
      You won't need the rabies shots if it comes back negative.
      Still, it is always good to have your Dr see your hand.

      If at any time it starts to swell, get red or hurt, don't wait, go to the ER immediately.

      A friend was feeding some feral cats and one bit her, it was caught and tested and was rabid, so she had to have those shots.
      One evening her hand started turning red, she went right then to the ER and almost lost that hand to an infection.
      They told her if she had waited until morning, she may have died.

      Don't wait, if it looks suspicious, go get it looked at.

      Sorry about the racoon, that is the way life is, one predator or other will get you, when you are a coon.

      You can't be careful enough around wildlife.


      • Original Poster

        Saw my doctor this afternoon. By then the skin around the little nick had sloughed off, so it is really sore without that layer of skin. I guess something in the saliva causes that? Anyway,had a tetanus shot and he cleaned and dressed the wound, gave me 'scripts for silvadene and Keflex to ward off any infection. Wants me to call on Monday when I get the health department report. I think the Silvadene is helping some, but when you are missing a layer of skin on the tip of a finger -- OUCH!!


        • #5
          You did the right thing by going in and getting the bite checked. I have no idea of what bacteria raccoons carry in their mouths. Cat bites often cause infection by pasturella bacteria, which are often not sensitive to Keflex. Therefore, watch the bite carefully for infection (redness, swelling or increased pain). I'm glad the raccoon is getting tested. Hopefully you can avoid rabies shots.


          • #6
            They are about to pass an ordinance here prohibiting feeding domestic animals outside, esp after dark just to prevent such problems with wildlife and rabies.
            People feed their cats outside, along comes the coons and the possums and tada, a rabies alert.
            I'm sorry you were bitten, but I'm even more sorry that most likely the raccoon is already dead because it bit you.
            "Perhaps the final test of anybody's love of dogs is their willingness to permit them to make a camping ground of the bed" -Henry T. Merwin


            • #7
              Keep an eye on it; Keflex is basically worthless as an antibiotic since so many bacteria are resistant to it. If it doesn't look better in a day or two, go back and ask for something stronger.

              *OMGiH I Loff my Mare* and *My Saddlebred Can Do Anything Your Horse Can Do*


              • #8
                Originally posted by Jaegermonster View Post
                They are about to pass an ordinance here prohibiting feeding domestic animals outside, esp after dark just to prevent such problems with wildlife and rabies.
                People feed their cats outside, along comes the coons and the possums and tada, a rabies alert.
                I'm sorry you were bitten, but I'm even more sorry that most likely the raccoon is already dead because it bit you.
                That was uncalled for. She was trying to move it - it is unfortunate - bet you never do anything wrong. She could have just shot it and be done with it.


                • Original Poster

                  Thanks Promodus. Jaegermonster, I agree -- I only feed my barn cats a small amount in the afternoon so they don't have left overs at night. I have an old cat that likes the deck and she only gets a little bit too. The problem was the raccoon was actually coming through 2 windows into an indoor porch converted to a cat room attached to a more "outdoor" cat room (we love cats, LOL). The indoor room is heated and cooled for them but they have access to the outside. The night I caught her I ran her out of the porch first and then set the trap on the deck after closing a window. I honestly try to be responsible and almost just let her go and take the shots. I have been pretty upset that she had to be euth'd for testing because I was bitten. We will work it out better if we have to trap another one.

                  I'm trying to take care of this finger and it's a little better. If it looks like it's getting infected, I'll get back to my doctor. He's a great guy and will take good care of me on the antibiotics. The Keflex was just in case, so far I don't think I have any infection and I'm not yet foaming at the mouth or avoiding water.
                  Thanks for all the posts!


                  • #10
                    Jingles for you ~ glad you had your doctor treat that finger ~
                    Zu Zu Bailey " IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE ! "


                    • #11
                      OP,, I'm sure you already know this

                      But relocating wildlife is usually illegal in most states. I had a huge racoon/possum problem, my neighbor feeds LOTS of cats outside, they'd eat over there, then come sleep and s**t over at my place in the horsey hilton. After throwing away far too much hay and dealing with scat everywhere, I'd had enough. I trapped the first five and called the fish and game guy, who came and picked them up. Once I figured out he wasn't relocating them either, I simple started shooting them. They did thousands of dollars of damage to my barn, there is about 400 acres of fields and woods for them within a quarter mile of my barn. Late this spring, in 10 days time, I killed 5 raccoons and 3 possums. Since then, apparently word has gotten around the wildlife community that this is not a good habitat, and I haven't even seen any evidence of anything wild in my barn. When I trapped them, either the same ones or others kept coming back. I'm now not seeing any.

                      I love wildlife, though God's reason for possums escapes me, but much like wild animals do, I'll protect my habitat and territory.

                      Transporting a wild creature to unfamiliar territory would be like letting a pet go somewhere far from home. It's wrong on so many levels.

                      Be very thankful it was a mild bite and hope it stays only that.


                      • #12
                        Coons here have torn roofs, walls, doors and windows getting into buildings, so they are not welcome around where people live.

                        One fall, we had 11 coons, that kept coming to the house, jimming up the electric pipes and wires and digging all night on the roof.
                        We put metal around poles and every place they were using and they kept finding new ways to get up there.

                        After we trapped and shot them all, we have not had any more, at least not any that stayed around to do damage.

                        I don't like at all to shoot anything and was really sick after the first few, wishing they went somewhere else.
                        The trouble was that one could get incinerated on the wires and catch the house on fire, as the electric line man told us, so they had to go.

                        Some wildlife you really can't live with safely and resident coons are some of those.

                        Relocating them is iffy, as they either make their way back to their known territory or get injured and killed by whatever wildlife is boss where you release them, plus if they are sick, they may infect those in that area.


                        • Original Poster

                          Well, that's alot to consider. I had thought the local wildlife could adapt to another location and food sources in a natural habitat. Maybe not. I just hate the idea of killing anything just trying to survive, although in an opportunistic type of way. Maybe just keeping food in at night will be enough. Thanks!


                          • #14
                            We humans have very restricted senses when it comes to the world around us.

                            There is no such thing as some place no one lives, we just are not aware of the marks and smells like wild animals are.
                            The world is an open book to them in that sense.
                            They read that kind of wold all the time, all kinds of scents and broken twigs and paths and whatever all they look for, just as we notice a beautiful sunrise or wild storm clouds.
                            The difference, their lives and next meal depend on noticing all around them in that manner.

                            When we relocate a coon, he immediately is aware of all that lives where he is now and has to scramble to find a niche there, that definitively is not empty space for him to make a home that easily.

                            When a feral cat ended up here a while back one evening, I bet he already was spooked by all the marks of this being a bobcat's territory and sure enough, he was assaulted by that bobcat that night.
                            He should have kept moving on.

                            Knowing the right frames of reference to navigate in this world is so different for every one of us and even more so for other species than we are.


                            • #15
                              Transporting a wild creature to unfamiliar territory would be like letting a pet go somewhere far from home. It's wrong on so many levels.

                              I've read this many times on this board. Yet, I see animals relocated on television all the time.

                              Many bears that come too close to heavily populated (human) areas are often relocated to more remote places.

                              I've seen previously wounded animals cared for, then the rehabber *finds* a suitable place in which to let the animal loose. And so on.
                              MnToBe Twinkle Star: "Twinkie"

                              Proud member of the "Don't rush to kill wildlife" clique!


                              • #16
                                Originally posted by Huntertwo View Post
                                Transporting a wild creature to unfamiliar territory would be like letting a pet go somewhere far from home. It's wrong on so many levels.

                                I've read this many times on this board. Yet, I see animals relocated on television all the time.

                                Many bears that come too close to heavily populated (human) areas are often relocated to more remote places.

                                I've seen previously wounded animals cared for, then the rehabber *finds* a suitable place in which to let the animal loose. And so on.
                                There is a big difference from Joe Blow letting a bunch of coons loose in non-familiar territory (to them) .. and people who study areas (usually for quite awhile) and release animals. They don't just tranqualize a bear and let it loose. there are people who study areas they intend to relocate wildlife, lookiing into the how much wildlife the area can support, how many are already in the area, etc. They don't just drop a bear into another bear's territory and say have a nice day. Same for every species that is relocated.
                                If you trap a coon, and drive it an hour away and dump it, you have no idea of the feasibility for the area to handle another racoon. you also most likely have not tested the animal and seen if it has anything that could spread to other wildlife.


                                • #17
                                  So the point is the next time you find a raccoon eating your cat's food you should take out a shotgun and blow its head off.

                                  Then post about it on COTH and everyone will jump on you for not relocating it.


                                  • #18
                                    TKR - Thank you for trying to do the right thing even though it didn't work out this time. Sometimes relocation works and at least you were willing to give it try. Sometimes other methods (aka, shotgun) become necessary to protect other animals. If the coon had killed some of your cats (or given them rabies) you would be feeling worse then having to euth. one coon for your own health and safety. Hope your finger is feeling better and that the tests come back as a non rabies result. Be sure to let us know if that foaming and fear of water develops. lol


                                    • #19
                                      Originally posted by Huntertwo View Post
                                      Transporting a wild creature to unfamiliar territory would be like letting a pet go somewhere far from home. It's wrong on so many levels.

                                      I've read this many times on this board. Yet, I see animals relocated on television all the time.

                                      Many bears that come too close to heavily populated (human) areas are often relocated to more remote places.

                                      I've seen previously wounded animals cared for, then the rehabber *finds* a suitable place in which to let the animal loose. And so on.
                                      Yes, some carefully relocated animals make it fine, I am sure, then some don't.

                                      Our game warden rehabbed a snow egret someone found hurt.
                                      Once he was fine, he came here to release it by a pond, hoping the egret would find his way back to other egrets.

                                      Next morning, some coyote had egret breakfast early, because we found a pile of white feathers by the edge of the dam.
                                      We didn't tell the game warden, no sense in sadden him with it, but that is the nature of rehabbing and relocating, some times is just doesn't work, for the some times it does.

                                      Relocating coons, well, I think that weights on the possibly more harmful than helpful column, as plenty of post have explained why.

                                      Do be very, very careful when handling wild life, rabies, rare that it is in humans, we tend to be more protected from it than other species by being generally less exposed to infection, can be terrible, as this very sad story at the end of this article tells:


                                      ---"Without immediate treatment, rabies almost always kills its victims. It is an unusual event in the United States, but it is a problem that kills more than 50,000 people around the world every year.

                                      KVUE.com tells the story of Zack Jones, a 16-year-old who died from rabies four years ago after a bat flew into his room while he was sleeping. “We know the bat woke him up it was fluttering in his face — that’s what he said,” said Connie Jones, his mother.

                                      He was not bitten, and Zach and his parents did not realize he could have contracted rabies so they missed the short window to get Zach treated. “He said mom there’s something really wrong with me. It’s my mind I can’t sleep I’m having little seizures,” his mother said he later told her.

                                      The Jones’ said Zach’s condition puzzled doctors too. “They didn’t realize Zach had rabies and second, rabies had taken over Zach. He had a very small chance of survival,” his mother said.

                                      One week after he noticed his first symptoms, rabies killed Zach. “This is something we’ve been praying for and hoping for,” his parents said about the ongoing research for a rabies cure."---


                                      • #20
                                        I know this is a late post, but you should have gone to your doctor (nearly wrote vet...) and get a gamma globulin shot. This kicks starts your immune system. It would be the first in the rabies series anyway. The series is: gamma globulin, and 1 rabies shot. Second rabies shot at 14 days, third rabies shot at 28 days. Voice of experience - I am a wildlife rehabber who doesn't normally do rabies vector species, but I ended up with a rabid bat - serves me right for grabbing it just before the 7 year old reached it, but that is another story. Oh, and the shots are just under the skin, although some are into the muscle - some debate about the efficacy.

                                        As for release and relocating wildlife: we don't trap healthy animals, just get people to practice exclusion. Adult mammals especially don't do well trapped. Juveniles would be run off anyway, so they adapt better. Like I said, I'm a state and federally permitted rehabber. I mostly do birds of prey (hawks, owls and eagles), and wading birds (egrets, herons etc.) and we rehab and successfully release hundreds of birds a year. All of our birds are banded, some are tracked. Unless you have the proper facilities, the knowledge etc. you will not be successful. And the game warden might have had good intentions, but unless they have been specifically trained to rehab, it would have been better to turn the egret over to a permitted rehabber. Sorry, soap box!

                                        Hope the test comes back negative....
                                        Horse Feathers Farm