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  • Anyone use Rollers?

    Anyone use these? I'm thinking of buying one and can't decide to get a steel drum or a poly one? Some reviews say they're great and some say they break/leak a lot. Most of our 5 1/2 acres are on flood plain or close to it. We have sandy loam soil. With this last winter, one of our pens is just hoof prints filled with water. The other one has a crevice that fills with water whenever it rains. To top it all off, we have a creek running through our property. Do you use yours a lot? Pros? Cons?

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    When you drive car over a bumpy gravel road, the road doesn't get less bumpy-- it usually gets even MORE wash-boarded. Same with a roller-- it is used to compact and firm up the surface, it's not the best way to move material around (which is what you need to do).

    I'd use a harrow instead, to break up the ridges and fill in the holes. Or a box scraper if the ground is rough enough to need that. Either way, you're going to need to keep repeating this process, because with your water table issues, it will keep coming back. So the longer-term fix is to install drain tile or similar drainage solution, and raise/grade the base to shed water better.

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      Originally posted by HungarianHippo View Post
      When you drive car over a bumpy gravel road, the road doesn't get less bumpy-- it usually gets even MORE wash-boarded. Same with a roller-- it is used to compact and firm up the surface, it's not the best way to move material around (which is what you need to do).

      I'd use a harrow instead, to break up the ridges and fill in the holes. Or a box scraper if the ground is rough enough to need that. Either way, you're going to need to keep repeating this process, because with your water table issues, it will keep coming back. So the longer-term fix is to install drain tile or similar drainage solution, and raise/grade the base to shed water better.
      The land is basically flat and considered to be in a X (shaded) flood plain. There's a ditch on the back of the property where water can run into a corrugated metal pipe. There's another corrugated metal pipe by the fence line, but no ditch. Then I have another one at the back of the barn that's basically half filled with mud. Unfortunately, the ground has eroded around the large metal pipe that drains into the creek and the area is caving in. My first year on this property and there's so much to do!
      I like your ideas and will use them! Thanks so much!

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        It sounds like, along with the above mentioned practices, you need to work on the drainage for your property. Keeping drainage ways open helps the rest of your property move water in a safe and effective manor.

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          My husband spent about 50 dollars in materials and welded me a "drag" I guess you would say. It has angled iron (think a 3 inch wide piece of steel in a v shape) there are three of them in a frame style and then chain attached a smooth round bar behind. We use it in out dry lots to scatter poop and drag the hoof prints in the wet or sandy type areas. It has some weight but not so heavy I can not pull it behind my little riding mower making it easier to navigate next to barns runs water troughs and the likes.
          My description sucks but Ill post a pics of it tonight. It was what we decided on instead of the dang roll drum cause they smash the poop instead of drag it and this smooths out the hoof holes perfect!

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            Originally posted by Long&amp;Short Ears View Post
            My husband spent about 50 dollars in materials and welded me a "drag" I guess you would say. It has angled iron (think a 3 inch wide piece of steel in a v shape) there are three of them in a frame style and then chain attached a smooth round bar behind. We use it in out dry lots to scatter poop and drag the hoof prints in the wet or sandy type areas. It has some weight but not so heavy I can not pull it behind my little riding mower making it easier to navigate next to barns runs water troughs and the likes.
            My description sucks but Ill post a pics of it tonight. It was what we decided on instead of the dang roll drum cause they smash the poop instead of drag it and this smooths out the hoof holes perfect!


            Awesome! I'm looking forward to the photo. We have the one pen that's really bad and the rest of the pens are ok unless we have a heavy rain.

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              Long&Short Ears Lucky you! What I wouldn't give to have welding capabilities on my farm.... I've been tempted to take a course at the community college.
              I just use a standard flexible tine harrow, and wait for a day when the ground isn't baked/frozen hard. But with sandy soil, it might be soft enough that the OP could get away with just a section of chain link fence, with a cinderblock or two tossed on there.

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                Originally posted by HungarianHippo View Post
                Long&Short Ears Lucky you! What I wouldn't give to have welding capabilities on my farm.... I've been tempted to take a course at the community college.
                I just use a standard flexible tine harrow, and wait for a day when the ground isn't baked/frozen hard. But with sandy soil, it might be soft enough that the OP could get away with just a section of chain link fence, with a cinderblock or two tossed on there.
                I am lucky my husband and I own our own auto repair and tractor repair so if I can get him to work on my stuff its always great!!

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                  Originally posted by Dressage59 View Post



                  Awesome! I'm looking forward to the photo. We have the one pen that's really bad and the rest of the pens are ok unless we have a heavy rain.
                  So the picture is of the drag my husband made. Closest to us is a solid steel bar that smooths out anything the four bars ahead may have missed. The four bars are all "V" shaped bars with the "V "going towards the ground or up side down V. I pull it with the riding mower for easier mobility but it can attach to the tractor as well. I can move it if i need to its not super heavy but it will drag muddy hoof holes flat and scatter poop piles. I do this in the pasture during the summer every three days and once or twice a week in the dry lot during the winter. I even use it for the front yard to scatter dog turds.

                  Do not be alarmed bu the random loose horse shoe on the ground its kinda a joke about a parking place.

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                  • #10
                    Equipment rental companies have rollers for lawn usage. I would rent one first to see if it does what you hope.
                    They're not miniatures, they're concentrates.

                    Born tongue-in-cheek and foot-in-mouth

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                      @LongandShortEars - That's great! Thanks for the photo and additional insight. Hopefully, a guy comes over today (still waiting on a phone call back) to discuss the land in general. I like your drag!

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