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    What is the max height for the stadium phase of the Olympic eventing?

  • #2
    I have no idea but I am seriously unhappy as once again my work has found a way to block everything! I can't see the jumping until tonight I guess
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      #3
      That's too bad. I'm watching right now and a few rails are flying.

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      • #4
        Thankfully I can see the list of competitors so as they go I can check the standings

        I just found that max height for the fences is 2.2 meters and 4.5 meters wide. I don't know if that's true but that's what I found when I googled it. (edit - I don't know meters but if what I googled is right then the max fence height is 7'??? yeah, we all know that's not true!)
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        • #5
          1.25 meters.

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          • #6
            Jumps look to be about 3'9". The horses definately don't have that spark they had yesterday and many are jumping quite flat.

            I hope these aren't the jumps they plan to use in the showjumping events. They are so boring. In Athens there were beautiful challenging arches, and different unique decorations. These look like jumps from home with a little Chinese flair. Was it like this in Athens for the eventers too?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ChampionMercedes View Post
              Jumps look to be about 3'9". The horses definately don't have that spark they had yesterday and many are jumping quite flat.

              I hope these aren't the jumps they plan to use in the showjumping events. They are so boring. In Athens there were beautiful challenging arches, and different unique decorations. These look like jumps from home with a little Chinese flair. Was it like this in Athens for the eventers too?
              I have always seen much more decorative show jumping jumps for the Grand Prix jumpers than the eventers. Much like the dressage portion is not really Grand Prix level, the stadium jumping is not grand prix level. This is more a test of diversity and flexibility in riding style and abilities of the horse. Since Grand Prix dressage and stadium high light one ability of the horse, it is tougher. The height is greater for Grand Prix as well. Some of these jumps will likely be used, but I am sure they will add in fans and arches and other fun stuff.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ajierene View Post
                I have always seen much more decorative show jumping jumps for the Grand Prix jumpers than the eventers. Much like the dressage portion is not really Grand Prix level, the stadium jumping is not grand prix level. This is more a test of diversity and flexibility in riding style and abilities of the horse. Since Grand Prix dressage and stadium high light one ability of the horse, it is tougher. The height is greater for Grand Prix as well. Some of these jumps will likely be used, but I am sure they will add in fans and arches and other fun stuff.
                That's what I figured. I come from Hunter/Jumperland and don't really watch eventing at all, so I was unsure.
                -Tami-

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ChampionMercedes View Post
                  Jumps look to be about 3'9". The horses definately don't have that spark they had yesterday and many are jumping quite flat.

                  I hope these aren't the jumps they plan to use in the showjumping events. They are so boring. In Athens there were beautiful challenging arches, and different unique decorations. These look like jumps from home with a little Chinese flair. Was it like this in Athens for the eventers too?
                  That's funny, I was just thinking the same thing! I guess I have never really watched eventing, because as they were going around, I was saying to myself, "I would jump this course today!" and I can tell you with 100% certainty that thought has NEVER crossed my mind watching showjumping. In fact, it never crosses my mind during your average grand prix here at home either

                  I guess the courses can't be as demanding because the horses have to demonstrate their abilities across three different disciplines that have such unique demands. (And, for the record, I would NEVER have the balls to point at the cross country jumps!)

                  I did also have the sense that the jumps were just taken over from your average horse show. That last line in particular, with the pretty colored planks and little liverpool. Very straight-forward and non-spooky. I hope they spice it up for the big jumping! (I loved that weird little white skinny arch)

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                  • #10
                    The commentator on my tv coverage said they did a contest where people submit ideas for stadium theme fences. They also said many of these will be used in sj but there are plenty of others to be added aswell.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 2 tbs View Post
                      Thankfully I can see the list of competitors so as they go I can check the standings

                      I just found that max height for the fences is 2.2 meters and 4.5 meters wide. I don't know if that's true but that's what I found when I googled it. (edit - I don't know meters but if what I googled is right then the max fence height is 7'??? yeah, we all know that's not true!)
                      I think you are mis reading it.

                      Without looking it up myself, I expect that 2.2 meters is the max WIDTH at the top, and 4.5 meters is the max WIDTH at the base.

                      Max height is, as someone else said. 1.25 or approx 4'1". I think you will find that most of the fences are between 3'9" and 4'1". According to US rules (and I think it is the same for FEI) at least 1/3 need to be at the max height. But the other 2/3 can be a bit lower.

                      But I know that my sister, who has evented at the *** level and also does show jumping, says that the level 5 (straight) show jumping is considerable harder than a *** (or Advanced HT) (eventing) show jumping, even though the heights are comparable.

                      The point is that, in eventing, you are going into show jumping the day after a VERY tiring cross country, and the horse you ride into the show jumping ring on the "third" day is not the same as the horse you would have ridden into the show jumping ring without having done cross country. Besides the fact that the horses are not show jumping specialists.
                      Janet

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                      • #12
                        Humor me here but I thought Advanced SJ height was 4'3", so that would make the Olympics a tad bigger correct?

                        I remember doing the 3* and they were bigger than 4', b/c I was freaking out (SJ is my bogey phase) but maybe not.
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                        • #13
                          I *think* under FEI rules 33% of the course can have obstacles that are 3" above the regular height. In this case, 4'2". Although, the commentators said that for the individual, the fences will be raised to 4'2". So perhaps the first round was not utilizing this rule.

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                          • #14
                            Thanks Jazzy! Lots has changed in the last 5 years since I did the 3*. I am not sure I can imagine doing one with all these new rules
                            RIP Kid Gloves (Holly) 1992 TBxHanv CCI*** mare.
                            http://photobucket.com/tx3dayeventer/holly
                            New mare: Miss Bunny Express (Missy) 1995 AQHA Jumper mare.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by tx3dayeventer View Post
                              Humor me here but I thought Advanced SJ height was 4'3", so that would make the Olympics a tad bigger correct?

                              I remember doing the 3* and they were bigger than 4', b/c I was freaking out (SJ is my bogey phase) but maybe not.
                              Advanced Show Jumping is 1.25m or 4'1" (just looked it up in the rule book). Although there is a 2" "builder's tolerance", so you COULD get a couple of 4'3" fences at Advanced.

                              Just checked the FEI rules. Unless they have changed them since I downloaded them, both *** and **** have a max height (for show jumping) of 1.25m or 4'1"(the individual round for the Olympics isn't covered my the part of the rules I am looking at, and I think it gets a bit higher), with a max width at the top of 1.6m (5'3"), and a max width of 2.3m (7'7") at the base.

                              Edited to add that under FEI rules, 2/3 of the fences must be at max height (4'1") and there is a 5cm tolerance, so you COULD get a couple at 4'3".
                              Janet

                              chief feeder and mucker for Music, Spy, Belle and Tiara. Someone else is now feeding and mucking for Chief and Brain (both foxhunting now).

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                              • #16
                                The on-line commentator said in the first event: 3'9".

                                In the Individual: 4'2"

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                                • #17
                                  Thanks Janet! I am such a spazz on SJ it wouldn't surprise me if I thought they were all 5' with 8' spreads

                                  I haven't had a chance to go hunt for the rules with work getting in the way of all my fun.
                                  RIP Kid Gloves (Holly) 1992 TBxHanv CCI*** mare.
                                  http://photobucket.com/tx3dayeventer/holly
                                  New mare: Miss Bunny Express (Missy) 1995 AQHA Jumper mare.
                                  http://photobucket.com/tx3dayeventer/missy

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                                  • #18
                                    I do have to say, I like the swiss cheese jump!

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                                    • #19
                                      about course design

                                      About the course, although I am not watching it right now... but I remember reading somewhere that they had all kinds of plans for elaborate fences, rice field hats, I can't remember what else, but that the Chinese nixed some of their plans b/c the fences spoke too much of the past and the Chinese wanted a more modern view of their country portrayed.

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